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TheGiz
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
Canada708 Posts
September 29 2011 05:43 GMT
#181
I love how on the easiest physics question in existence the student carried his units wrong but still put them in the answer. Speed is apparently a distance, now.

I think the reason for all of this is they just didn't care.
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actionbastrd
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Congo598 Posts
September 29 2011 07:48 GMT
#182
I rarely blamed the teacher for my troubles in high school. Typically i would know if it was my fault or not. Whether it was sleeping in class, not paying attention, playing games on my ipod. What have you.

But i can honestly say i have had 2 teachers that just were so epically terrible at their job, one got fired later on tho for sexual harassment (and he got a sex change, which was part of the harassment, showed pictures to a student of him as a women), the other tried way to hard to be liked by everyone in the class, tried to be the cool teacher. Told us to ask him for help on his free time, never did help you tho.

Both were math teachers and well i enjoy math. I was in accel math up until 10th year when then terrabad train of teachers happened. The first one told us to take notes, i always did in math, had too. Well he told us to turn in our notes. I happily did... he gave me a F on my fucking notes because my handwriting was sloppy.( i could read it fine, and even read it to him to prove it) lost 20 points of the semester that day. Then later on when he was talking about how to solve stuff, well he didnt make sense. I passed that class through help of friends, but i kept up. Passed with a C sadly.

Then the next year came. and i get this douche rockin-roll guy talking about how he used to party just like us. I dunno why fail teachers get into the class rooms where i live, but somehow a few always do. He was horrible at explaining anything. Everyone, even the "smart" kids in the class said they had trouble understanding wtf this guy was talking about. ppl in our class would get together just to try and figure out what was just taught to us. Failed that class because half way through i just gave up trying. Was not worth it to me anymore. Turned into my nap time lol.

And what do you know, summer school for math, all fine and dandy. Passed the class 5 days early because the teacher actually knew how to teach. Ballin.

Not saying this is every teacher on the planet, but some teachers are just really really bad, while others are forced into things such as micro has been saying. And teachers being heavy drinkers was awesome cuz well.... it all makes sense. Lol

I personally think from elementary school, if your behind, summer school. If your still behind, no advance. It should not reflect poorly on a teacher if the kids are stupid. But if the teacher is bad, well, there should be a way for everyone in the class to petition or something. (having to be a landslide). thats just off the top of my head, dont look super deep at any holes in the logic lol.

err i just remembered, one time one of the good math teachers subbed and was amazed at how little we had been taught. It was comical.

Thanks for the blog, was funny, sad, and well all around quality. I am actually returning to school in winter quarter. Gonna get a degree!!! And since i never use anything i learned in "Real life", im going to have to retake some basic classes to refresh my memory >.< more money gone.
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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
September 29 2011 13:07 GMT
#183
On September 29 2011 14:43 TheGiz wrote:
I love how on the easiest physics question in existence the student carried his units wrong but still put them in the answer. Speed is apparently a distance, now.

I think the reason for all of this is they just didn't care.

Some of the ocean kids perhaps, but not the physics one. I'm pretty sure about that.
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Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
September 29 2011 13:39 GMT
#184
There's no way a human being with working brain can give such answers.
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Cruncharoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States136 Posts
September 29 2011 13:59 GMT
#185
As a teacher do you ever feel responsible for their bad answers or get disheartened? I'm sure it isn't easy to teach them this stuff everyday for a few weeks and then get those response.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
September 29 2011 14:32 GMT
#186
On September 29 2011 22:59 Cruncharoo wrote:
As a teacher do you ever feel responsible for their bad answers or get disheartened? I'm sure it isn't easy to teach them this stuff everyday for a few weeks and then get those response.

Sometimes but after a while you realize just how many things besides you contribute towards incorrect answers.... like it's not my fault when my physics student can't do basic algebra on the first day. I'll do my best to help them but they were behind the 8 ball to begin with.
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Tommylew
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
Wales2717 Posts
September 29 2011 14:41 GMT
#187
mayb the kids are trolling you haha

SOme of those answers haha
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Servius_Fulvius
Profile Joined August 2009
United States947 Posts
September 29 2011 16:32 GMT
#188
Ehhhh...I can KIND OF understand the 1492 vs. 1992 mistake. If someone is doing the work too fast they'd just see the "92" and pick that choice.

The velocity over time issue also isn't a stretch. It seems they messed up the dimensional analysis (and let's face it, understanding this is all about understanding fractions - something many people are averse to) or they accidentally divided, realized they got s^2/m, got really confused, and just fluffled something.

I know what you mean with interesting answers. I grade for a senior level engineering course. I am honestly frightened for the plants that hire some of these people -_-
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
September 29 2011 16:35 GMT
#189
On September 30 2011 01:32 Servius_Fulvius wrote:
The velocity over time issue also isn't a stretch. It seems they messed up the dimensional analysis
This isn't how most students think about it. They start with what information is given (without worrying about units), figure out which formula has those givens and the unknown, and then plug in... they don't even do algebra with the units usually)
(and let's face it, understanding this is all about understanding fractions - something many people are averse to)
Agreed

or they accidentally divided, realized they got s^2/m,
As I said they wouldn't realize this
got really confused, and just fluffled something.

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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 18:53:10
September 29 2011 18:04 GMT
#190
I'm at the company in the conference room. Its going to be hard to get me a lease since I don't have a company. Buying seems to make more sense for me and they are currently pricing a smaller machine for me since I don't need 11x17. I'll continue the live report as this progresses!
edit: wrong thread lol (was on phone)
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Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary25979 Posts
September 29 2011 18:18 GMT
#191
On September 30 2011 03:04 micronesia wrote:
I'm at the company in the conference room. Its going to be hard to get me a lease since I don't have a company. Buying seems to make more sense for me and they are currently pricing a smaller machine for me since I don't need 11x17. I'll continue the live report as this progresses!

Oh micronesia, in a thread about people making mistakes too.
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EtherealDeath
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States8366 Posts
September 29 2011 18:32 GMT
#192
On September 30 2011 03:04 micronesia wrote:
I'm at the company in the conference room. Its going to be hard to get me a lease since I don't have a company. Buying seems to make more sense for me and they are currently pricing a smaller machine for me since I don't need 11x17. I'll continue the live report as this progresses!


I must be missing something because this reads like Romulan to me.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
September 29 2011 18:47 GMT
#193
On September 30 2011 03:18 Chill wrote:
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On September 30 2011 03:04 micronesia wrote:
I'm at the company in the conference room. Its going to be hard to get me a lease since I don't have a company. Buying seems to make more sense for me and they are currently pricing a smaller machine for me since I don't need 11x17. I'll continue the live report as this progresses!

Oh micronesia, in a thread about people making mistakes too.

Haha sorry I was on my phone and posted in the wrong thread :p
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 21:48:06
September 29 2011 21:47 GMT
#194
On September 29 2011 07:17 micronesia wrote:
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On September 29 2011 02:38 Hawk wrote:
Good lord. I really hope that at least some of those were just the I don't know and I'll say something stupid answers.

education in this country sucks. Everyone wants to point to the teachers and everything besides the root of the problem: the dumbass parents. Whether it's because the parents both work two jobs or they just really don't give a shit, it's much easier to blame the teacher or the system instead of accepting that your kid is not a good student and it's because you're not involved at all.

I coach soccer and it's apparent there too. I always bug the kids about school since I know a lot of their teachers and without fail, the ones that are bad at school and general pains in the asses are always the ones whose parents don't care, don't show up, etc etc

Just had meet the teacher night...

In that ocean class, 3/31 kids' parent(s) came. In my AP class just about all came. Surprise surprise ._.

Lol... here in NJ my schools are pretty awesome where 2 years I had the same teacher in a row(my 4th grade teacher replaced the 5th grade social studies teacher because the original one left and there was no other replacement). In 4th grade my parents and I complained about too much home work as I was in the "bad class" and at the time my little grade-school girl friend had just moved away the year before and then I get hit with hours of homework when I'm not even 11 yet. I and others couldn't do it while some actually got dogs to eat their homework(no joke they brought it to school like that xD). Then in 5th grade the teacher did it again and it was like "Angry old lady+Boring Way to teach Social Studies+ Gives a test on MLKJr. and keeps all our F's on it..." Then when we graduated one girl that is normally really nice but hated our teacher said "I hope she dies." Then when we got into 6th grade in Middle School guess what happened? Our old teacher ended up in the emergency room from a car accident and it was announced over the middle school loud speaker...

Now I'm a Freshman and in 8th I got C's and D's and got an F in English one marking period but my teachers didn't want to have to explain it to the school admin. so they bumped it up to a D-. My parents said "You'll never be able to turn things around for yourself in high school."(I was also late almost every day of the school year 8th grade and had the record for ever having the most tardies ) I am getting A's and B's as of now(Home work getting done in study hall, getting to school early instead of late, participating in class a LOT, etc.). They said I couldn't do it...

Now, all I need is to figure out how to motivate myself to getting home work done at home where I go "I would much rather go to my computer and play SC..." and get an itch to do so.
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Ponyo
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States1231 Posts
Last Edited: 2011-09-29 23:12:50
September 29 2011 23:12 GMT
#195
Yo I'm not sure if these are personally collected answers, or from a region wide testing thing? Because MAYBE this was just me, but if something wasn't grade changing or didn't count (state testing) then, I just bubbled in AABBCCAABBCC. ezpz
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3FFA
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
United States3931 Posts
September 30 2011 02:12 GMT
#196
On September 30 2011 08:12 Ponyo wrote:
Yo I'm not sure if these are personally collected answers, or from a region wide testing thing? Because MAYBE this was just me, but if something wasn't grade changing or didn't count (state testing) then, I just bubbled in AABBCCAABBCC. ezpz

In my school we made pictures with the bubbles lol. One time one guy bubbled a **** =/
"As long as it comes from a pure place and from a honest place, you know, you can write whatever you want."
Empyrean
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
16978 Posts
September 30 2011 02:39 GMT
#197
That's actually terrible for the schools, because part of their funding comes from how well students do on standardized exams (at least for public schools).
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wherebugsgo
Profile Blog Joined February 2010
Japan10647 Posts
September 30 2011 03:21 GMT
#198
On September 30 2011 06:47 3FFA wrote:
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On September 29 2011 07:17 micronesia wrote:
On September 29 2011 02:38 Hawk wrote:
Good lord. I really hope that at least some of those were just the I don't know and I'll say something stupid answers.

education in this country sucks. Everyone wants to point to the teachers and everything besides the root of the problem: the dumbass parents. Whether it's because the parents both work two jobs or they just really don't give a shit, it's much easier to blame the teacher or the system instead of accepting that your kid is not a good student and it's because you're not involved at all.

I coach soccer and it's apparent there too. I always bug the kids about school since I know a lot of their teachers and without fail, the ones that are bad at school and general pains in the asses are always the ones whose parents don't care, don't show up, etc etc

Just had meet the teacher night...

In that ocean class, 3/31 kids' parent(s) came. In my AP class just about all came. Surprise surprise ._.

Lol... here in NJ my schools are pretty awesome where 2 years I had the same teacher in a row(my 4th grade teacher replaced the 5th grade social studies teacher because the original one left and there was no other replacement). In 4th grade my parents and I complained about too much home work as I was in the "bad class" and at the time my little grade-school girl friend had just moved away the year before and then I get hit with hours of homework when I'm not even 11 yet. I and others couldn't do it while some actually got dogs to eat their homework(no joke they brought it to school like that xD). Then in 5th grade the teacher did it again and it was like "Angry old lady+Boring Way to teach Social Studies+ Gives a test on MLKJr. and keeps all our F's on it..." Then when we graduated one girl that is normally really nice but hated our teacher said "I hope she dies." Then when we got into 6th grade in Middle School guess what happened? Our old teacher ended up in the emergency room from a car accident and it was announced over the middle school loud speaker...

Now I'm a Freshman and in 8th I got C's and D's and got an F in English one marking period but my teachers didn't want to have to explain it to the school admin. so they bumped it up to a D-. My parents said "You'll never be able to turn things around for yourself in high school."(I was also late almost every day of the school year 8th grade and had the record for ever having the most tardies ) I am getting A's and B's as of now(Home work getting done in study hall, getting to school early instead of late, participating in class a LOT, etc.). They said I couldn't do it...

Now, all I need is to figure out how to motivate myself to getting home work done at home where I go "I would much rather go to my computer and play SC..." and get an itch to do so.


I've always believed that any student can get a 4.0 throughout high school in this country just by showing up to class, paying attention, and doing like...maybe half the homework.

College though, especially in a rigorous field, is pretty different lol
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24668 Posts
September 30 2011 04:16 GMT
#199
On September 30 2011 12:21 wherebugsgo wrote:
I've always believed that any student can get a 4.0 throughout high school in this country just by showing up to class, paying attention, and doing like...maybe half the homework.

This has not been my observation... as a student or as a teacher. This is partly due to the differences in the difficulty of getting a 4.0 in different schools, and party due to the differences in students.
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Complete
Profile Joined October 2009
United States1864 Posts
October 01 2011 14:34 GMT
#200
I'd agree with that statement if it were changed to doing all hw and a 3.8
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