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andiCR
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Costa Rica2273 Posts
July 29 2009 05:47 GMT
#1
Given the indisputable fact that IdrA has become the top foreigner now that he is at CJ house (and has won oh so many tournaments http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=98695), I think IdrA should be given an alias. Like, "The Terran Hope", "The White Hope" or "White Boys Can Jump" or something like that (hell, i'd go for "Western BM" too lol). kinda like the whole Korean scene that almost everyone has a nick like this (the Maestro, The Revolutionist, etc).
What do you guys think?

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Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
July 29 2009 05:49 GMT
#2
I think 'Foreign Bonjwa' is good enough. =P
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 05:54:47
July 29 2009 05:51 GMT
#3
"Iplayheterosexually"

EDIT: a.k.a. "IPH"?

EDIT: + Show Spoiler +
IdrA does not do any gay shit to win.
+ Show Spoiler +
Although his opponents may.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 29 2009 06:06 GMT
#4
I really don't feel like it's appropriate to name someone "foreign bonjwa." Idra has gotten good, but the difference between him and Flash or Fantasy is incredibly vast.

Just call him "the best foreigner" and cheer for him and leave it at that, okay?
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
July 29 2009 06:15 GMT
#5
On July 29 2009 15:06 Mortality wrote:
I really don't feel like it's appropriate to name someone "foreign bonjwa." Idra has gotten good, but the difference between him and Flash or Fantasy is incredibly vast.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the qualifier foreign in foreign bonjwa.
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Samurai-
Profile Joined May 2008
Slovenia2035 Posts
July 29 2009 06:17 GMT
#6
f91 begs to disagree..
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 07:00:43
July 29 2009 06:20 GMT
#7
No way, it's way too early. He has to make the roster to prove himself imo.
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GoSu
Profile Blog Joined June 2009
Korea (South)1773 Posts
July 29 2009 06:23 GMT
#8
IdrA def.
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Mortality
Profile Blog Joined December 2005
United States4790 Posts
July 29 2009 06:25 GMT
#9
On July 29 2009 15:15 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:06 Mortality wrote:
I really don't feel like it's appropriate to name someone "foreign bonjwa." Idra has gotten good, but the difference between him and Flash or Fantasy is incredibly vast.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the qualifier foreign in foreign bonjwa.


I think it's laughable and pathetic and degrades the meaning of the term "bonjwa."

Honestly, if your kid is playing little league sports, you don't give a shit who the "bonjwa" is unless the bonjwa just happens to be your kid.

Foreign Starcraft is little league.
Even though this Proleague bullshit has been completely bogus, I really, really, really do not see how Khan can lose this. I swear I will kill myself if they do. - nesix before KHAN lost to eNature
konadora *
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
Singapore66357 Posts
July 29 2009 06:26 GMT
#10
I dislike it when people just use the term 'bonjwa' so loosely =(
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o3.power91
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Bahrain5288 Posts
July 29 2009 06:27 GMT
#11
On July 29 2009 15:17 Samurai- wrote:
f91 begs to disagree..

hahaha can't wait for the return of Liquibition
araav
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
Armenia1590 Posts
July 29 2009 06:36 GMT
#12
f9, which brings to another thing, BreakpointTerran :D
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GTR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
51497 Posts
July 29 2009 06:46 GMT
#13
skilless fucking newbie
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had to
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Xeris
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
Iran17695 Posts
July 29 2009 06:53 GMT
#14
I don't think the foreign scene is little league at all. If I had to make a comparison (I'll use basketball since that's the sport I'm most familiar with) I would say that Korea is the NBA and the "foreign" scene is like European basketball. Sure the comparison isn't 100% accurate because there are Euros in the NBA that are some of the best players... but you get the gist of it. The NBA is just vastly far above the Euro leagues in terms of everything, size, skill, athleticism... that European teams simply can't compete. (Note: I'm not talking about national teams because that's really a totally different comparison).

The point though is that, whether you're a superstar in the NBA or a superstar in Europe... you are still a superstar, you're still playing the game at an incredibly high level, and you're still making tons of money. So who cares whether you want to reserve the title "bonjwa" for just Koreans... IdrA is doing exactly what a Korean bonjwa would do but in the foreign scene.
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Light]N[exuS
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Hong Kong42 Posts
July 29 2009 06:58 GMT
#15
On July 29 2009 15:15 JWD wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:06 Mortality wrote:
I really don't feel like it's appropriate to name someone "foreign bonjwa." Idra has gotten good, but the difference between him and Flash or Fantasy is incredibly vast.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the qualifier foreign in foreign bonjwa.


Might as well call someone the D+ Bonjwa
KP_CollectoR
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States744 Posts
July 29 2009 06:58 GMT
#16
On July 29 2009 15:20 Chef wrote:
No way, it's way too early. He has to make the rooster to prove himself imo.


I've heard of breeding roosters, but making one?!
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 29 2009 06:58 GMT
#17
On July 29 2009 15:53 Xeris wrote:
I don't think the foreign scene is little league at all. If I had to make a comparison (I'll use basketball since that's the sport I'm most familiar with) I would say that Korea is the NBA and the "foreign" scene is like European basketball. Sure the comparison isn't 100% accurate because there are Euros in the NBA that are some of the best players... but you get the gist of it. The NBA is just vastly far above the Euro leagues in terms of everything, size, skill, athleticism... that European teams simply can't compete. (Note: I'm not talking about national teams because that's really a totally different comparison).

The point though is that, whether you're a superstar in the NBA or a superstar in Europe... you are still a superstar, you're still playing the game at an incredibly high level, and you're still making tons of money. So who cares whether you want to reserve the title "bonjwa" for just Koreans... IdrA is doing exactly what a Korean bonjwa would do but in the foreign scene.


It's funny that you chose basketball as your example, where football ("soccer") would be a near-perfect fit.

Who is the superstar in American soccer...?
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Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-07-29 07:02:13
July 29 2009 07:00 GMT
#18
On July 29 2009 15:53 Xeris wrote:
I don't think the foreign scene is little league at all. If I had to make a comparison (I'll use basketball since that's the sport I'm most familiar with) I would say that Korea is the NBA and the "foreign" scene is like European basketball. Sure the comparison isn't 100% accurate because there are Euros in the NBA that are some of the best players... but you get the gist of it. The NBA is just vastly far above the Euro leagues in terms of everything, size, skill, athleticism... that European teams simply can't compete. (Note: I'm not talking about national teams because that's really a totally different comparison).

The point though is that, whether you're a superstar in the NBA or a superstar in Europe... you are still a superstar, you're still playing the game at an incredibly high level, and you're still making tons of money. So who cares whether you want to reserve the title "bonjwa" for just Koreans... IdrA is doing exactly what a Korean bonjwa would do but in the foreign scene.

No way... People who play in their spare time will always be considered little league. That's like being amazed an NHL player could go to some hockey club of people with full time jobs and school them.

I'm not fully aware, but if European Basketball players play basketball full time, there's no comparison. The fact is most of the people Idra is beating are playing for fun, not for a job. Only TossGirl and PJ stood out.
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Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
July 29 2009 07:00 GMT
#19
On July 29 2009 15:17 Samurai- wrote:
f91 begs to disagree..


hahaha, nice
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BanZu
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States3329 Posts
July 29 2009 07:01 GMT
#20
On July 29 2009 15:25 Mortality wrote:
Show nested quote +
On July 29 2009 15:15 JWD wrote:
On July 29 2009 15:06 Mortality wrote:
I really don't feel like it's appropriate to name someone "foreign bonjwa." Idra has gotten good, but the difference between him and Flash or Fantasy is incredibly vast.

I don't think you understand the meaning of the qualifier foreign in foreign bonjwa.


I think it's laughable and pathetic and degrades the meaning of the term "bonjwa."

Honestly, if your kid is playing little league sports, you don't give a shit who the "bonjwa" is unless the bonjwa just happens to be your kid.

Foreign Starcraft is little league.

Oh no, we're disgracing a word.

Lmao.

Foreign Bonjwa would be fine but I don't think it could be used in a regular situation...
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