• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 04:53
CET 10:53
KST 18:53
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups C & D Preview0RSL Season 3 - RO16 Groups A & B Preview2TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners12
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets0$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)12Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7[BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 103SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-1822
StarCraft 2
General
SC2 Spotted on the EWC 2026 list? Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns Spontaneous hotkey change zerg Chinese SC2 server to reopen; live all-star event in Hangzhou
Tourneys
$25,000 Streamerzone StarCraft Pro Series announced $21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) WardiTV Winter Cup WardiTV Mondays SC2 AI Tournament 2026
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone Mutation # 505 Rise From Ashes
Brood War
General
Potential ASL qualifier breakthroughs? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion StarCraft & BroodWar Campaign Speedrun Quest Data analysis on 70 million replays
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [BSL21] Grand Finals - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10 SLON Grand Finals – Season 2
Strategy
Game Theory for Starcraft Simple Questions, Simple Answers Current Meta [G] How to get started on ladder as a new Z player
Other Games
General Games
Beyond All Reason Nintendo Switch Thread Awesome Games Done Quick 2026! Mechabellum Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Trading/Investing Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List TL+ Announced
Blogs
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Physical Exercise (HIIT) Bef…
TrAiDoS
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1519 users

Replay Classification Update

Blogs > StRyKeR
Post a Reply
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-06-29 02:45:15
June 29 2009 00:52 GMT
#1
I'm making an automated replay player identifier. With this, it'd be much easier to tell whether you played against a progamer or a well-known foreigner on ICCup. With this, romad doesn't have to be working all the time.

For the time being, I am not going to pursue the Support Vector Machines approach to classifying replays, because we already have an instance that can learn a replay signature just by looking at one sample (romad). I took it as proof that it is possible to formulate a much simpler replay classifier, and that it is the feature selection that is prominently the hardest task.

Support Vector Machines might be more accurate in the long run, after I amass hundreds of samples per player, but realistically, the main problem with identifying replays is their scarcity.

I'm using the Nearest-Neighbors algorithm to classify replays, with a slight modification. I am currently designing it to be half-human half-machine.

There are currently five categories, the fifth being the combination of previous categories.
1) Building hotkeys
2) Hotkey actions
3) Hotkey spam
4) Hotkey usage
5) Total

The program produces a "closeness" rating for a given replay in each category, and looks for replays in the database that are closest to the given replay.

For the database, the program uses replays from TSL (there are a ton of replays from TSL!).

Example
I put in the recent ret vs. IdrA replay. Here are the results:

1) Building hotkeys
Top fifty consists entirely of IdrA.

2) Hotkey actions
The top 4 consists of IdrA.
Top fifty consists mostly of IdrA.
Top fifty has many ret's.
Top fifty also has BRAT_OK's and some Haypro's.

3) Hotkey spam
EDIT: Almost entirely of IdrA. I had a bug in my previous program.

4) Hotkey usage
Lots and lots of Horror. Some IdrA's. The thing is, the top fifty have NO differences from the given replay. That is, hotkey usage is a pretty poor discriminant. I'm sure many IdrA reps have the same hotkey usages, and that if I listed the top 100, IdrA would appear.

5) Total
Top fifty all consist of IdrA's.

It's clear from this example that often, the player will not win in every category. However, put together, it's likely that the player will be at the top.

I will be adding / removing / refining categories in the future.

Also, eventually, there will be an online database and an online real-time classifier, for which I need the Linux version of the repasm.dll that serves as the PHP extension in Windows (I'm using Taiche's RepASM).

Anyway, please send me replays of foreigners if you'd like to test my current program!

*****
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9949 Posts
June 29 2009 02:08 GMT
#2
Very exciting project!

If you end up optimalizing this it would be awesome.
Moderatorsometimes I get intimidated by the size of my right testicle
Archaic
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States4024 Posts
June 29 2009 02:23 GMT
#3
I'm not quite sure I understand this project. What exactly do you hope to accomplish with it, assuming it was completed, and functional?
StRyKeR
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States1739 Posts
June 29 2009 02:25 GMT
#4
On June 29 2009 11:23 Archaic wrote:
I'm not quite sure I understand this project. What exactly do you hope to accomplish with it, assuming it was completed, and functional?


Identify who's playing in a replay. Basically, take romad's ability and automate it.
Ars longa, vita brevis, principia aeturna.
foeffa
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Belgium2115 Posts
June 29 2009 02:30 GMT
#5
That is some sweet sounding shit yo. GL!
觀過斯知仁矣.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 2h 7m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
SortOf 6
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 4928
Leta 417
Mini 398
Larva 386
Hyuk 379
actioN 314
Stork 309
ZerO 217
Mong 184
Zeus 165
[ Show more ]
EffOrt 121
Soma 116
Shuttle 112
Nal_rA 101
910 87
Hyun 86
Killer 82
Rush 68
ggaemo 48
hero 36
zelot 33
Sharp 32
Mind 23
scan(afreeca) 17
soO 17
Free 14
Bale 12
Sacsri 11
Noble 11
Terrorterran 10
ajuk12(nOOB) 2
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm113
ODPixel74
XcaliburYe66
League of Legends
JimRising 512
C9.Mang0463
Counter-Strike
olofmeister1373
shoxiejesuss916
allub237
Super Smash Bros
Mew2King118
Other Games
summit1g8180
ceh9543
Pyrionflax161
RuFF_SC233
ZerO(Twitch)11
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick3241
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 14 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• iopq 2
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos1916
• Lourlo1256
• Stunt535
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Invitational
2h 7m
PiGosaur Cup
15h 7m
WardiTV Invitational
1d 2h
The PondCast
2 days
OSC
2 days
OSC
3 days
All Star Teams
3 days
INnoVation vs soO
sOs vs Scarlett
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
4 days
All Star Teams
4 days
MMA vs DongRaeGu
Rogue vs Oliveira
Sparkling Tuna Cup
5 days
[ Show More ]
OSC
5 days
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-01-12
Big Gabe Cup #3
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
OSC Championship Season 13
Underdog Cup #3
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025

Upcoming

Escore Tournament S1: W4
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Rongyi Cup S3
Thunderfire SC2 All-star 2025
Nations Cup 2026
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.