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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 16 2009 04:25 GMT
#1
Meh I'm bored right now and I haven't made a blog entry recently so here goes some random stuff on my mind right now.

I went 2-4 on iccup today doing ZvX. I think ZvZ is my best MU right now, ZvP is my second best, and ZvT is my worst. The percentages for each are probably around as follows:
ZvZ: ~75%. I've seen plenty of ZvZ games; I am familiar with the knowledge of the MU and my losses are either from mismicroing, having the BO disadvantage at the start, or just losing to a better player overall. My mechanics are pretty solid.

ZvP: ~50%. I try to go for the 3hatch lair > 5hatch hydra > muta build by w3jjjj most of the time. The majority of the time I mis something random in the built, which usually ends up with me straying away from proper builds. Sometimes this confuses my enemy and I win somehow lol(yay for accidental mindfucks). Other times I do this build on maps that are not meant for it(I.E. Python, Longinus, etc) so I don't have a 3rd gas and I end up with a disadvantage due to my build. What are your recommendations for maps that don't have a fast 3rd gas? I've been tending to go for 3hatch lair > lurker(contain) while taking my 3rd gas and teching to hive. This hasn't really worked out too well for me yet, but I think it's because of my laziness of morphing hydras into lurkers and not keeping economy up properly. Storms are a bitch too.

ZvT: ~25%. Ugh... ZvT... Hardest MU IMHO. It seems like a group of well microd MnM kills infinite lurkerling. Mid-game really gets me; the first vessel as well as tanks are such a pain in the ass to deal with. I almost never manage to survive until late game. I keep messing up with my 3hatch muta in a different place every time it seems. I miss an ovie(s), I forget my 2nd gas in time, I forget to take 3rd gas while harassing, sometimes I harass for like 10 seconds then just give up with it then the MnM tankvessel ball comes out and rapes me, I don't get lurkers in time, I die to a bunker rush, etc. Overall my ZvT sucks balls. It's probably D- level T_T. I am glad when they go mech sometimes because of this. I think I'm like 3-0 ZvT mech or something actually at my Zerg level.

Now, non-iccup related stuff ^_^

My 12 grad(prom + dance) is next sunday. Nothing is that bad about this in particular I guess. I don't have a date(which I honestly don't care too much about. I'd rather go by myself than with someone I don't want to go with just to make myself not look like a loner) and I can't dance but whatever. The real problem is the grad-after party. Let me explain the situation. My best friend(we'll call him Dan) started dating someone he liked last school year(this is gr.11, and we'll call her Rachel). All was fine and dandy until Rachel became good friends with all mine and Dan's mutual friends. Suddenly something happened earlier this school year and shit hit the fan, they broke up and stopped talking. This was really awkward for everyone since some people were still friends with others, even though some of their friends hated other people, etc. Eventually everyone got all fine and dandy and became friends again. Dan and Rachel started to like eachother again and almost got back together. I have no clue what exactly happened but they got in a fight or something and now hate eachother again. The awkwardness is back unfortunately. The actual problem though, is that we all planned out our grad-after party because the awkwardness, so some people aren't exactly sure what is up. Dan and Rachel kind of indirectly agreed they wouldn't bring other people(including a bf/gf they might happen to get before the party) so no one gets all depressed and has a bad time, yada yada yada, after all, the party is invitation only. The party is being hosted at Rachel's place, so I guess she decided she would do a dick move and bring her new bf along that none of us know. This really is getting on Dan's nerves because Rachel went by his back, breaking their little agreement. He knows if he still comes to the party he will have a horrible time, might start a fight with the new bf, etc. Rachel is basically doing this out of spite. I don't want to go to the party still, leaving my best friend behind(he is also bi-polar, he would take this really hard), but I still want to go to see other friends and stuff as well. Me and Dan are considering just having our own little party at his place but we don't really know what is happening yet.

tl;dr I'm in a dilemma between choosing friends. FML

Now for part 3 of my long ass rant; this one is shorter thankfully.
In short, I have my road test for getting my license in exactly one week. Two of my close friends(one being Dan) have failed their test this month so I'm getting kind of nervous. I personally think I am ready, but so did they. I'm trying to learn from their mistakes and stuff but I can't stop worrying. My test is 2 days before my grad, so that is really awesome. It's actually making me even more worried I am going to fail because I am so stoked that I might have it for that weekend.

Thanks for reading ,

Grobyc.

/rant

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If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 04:30:18
May 16 2009 04:29 GMT
#2
fuck everything, go out for a run and don't come back until your sweating like fuck.
???
PROfit

sources: myself
edit:i read only a bit of the op : \
FuDDx *
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States5014 Posts
May 16 2009 04:30 GMT
#3
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.
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Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
May 16 2009 04:33 GMT
#4
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.

Thanks, I'll try not to.
On May 16 2009 13:29 jodogohoo wrote:
fuck everything, go out for a run and don't come back until your sweating like fuck.
???
PROfit

sources: myself
edit:i read only a bit of the op : \

Meh, I didn't run but I went out and practiced hacky-sac for a while
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
lilsusie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
3861 Posts
May 16 2009 04:37 GMT
#5
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.


Heh I was thinking this too.

Like, OMG, Dan should totally bring some OTHER hot chick just inspite of HER, or better yet, a hot GUY and say that she made him gay. and then spike the new bf's drink with a roofie.

and then rape him.
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jodogohoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada2533 Posts
May 16 2009 04:40 GMT
#6
On May 16 2009 13:33 Grobyc wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.

Thanks, I'll try not to.
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:29 jodogohoo wrote:
fuck everything, go out for a run and don't come back until your sweating like fuck.
???
PROfit

sources: myself
edit:i read only a bit of the op : \

Meh, I didn't run but I went out and practiced hacky-sac for a while

good enough
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-16 06:13:20
May 16 2009 04:43 GMT
#7
On May 16 2009 13:37 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.


Heh I was thinking this too.

Like, OMG, Dan should totally bring some OTHER hot chick just inspite of HER, or better yet, a hot GUY and say that she made him gay. and then spike the new bf's drink with a roofie.

and then rape him.

LOL

Thanks susie :3

I'll propose this idea to him haha.

EDIT: She might try to kick him out because of the invitation only thing but it would be funny revenge nonetheless ^_^
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
DoX.)
Profile Joined December 2008
Singapore6164 Posts
May 16 2009 04:58 GMT
#8
On May 16 2009 13:37 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.


Heh I was thinking this too.

Like, OMG, Dan should totally bring some OTHER hot chick just inspite of HER, or better yet, a hot GUY and say that she made him gay. and then spike the new bf's drink with a roofie.

and then rape him.

win win win
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
May 16 2009 05:56 GMT
#9
On May 16 2009 13:37 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.


Heh I was thinking this too.

Like, OMG, Dan should totally bring some OTHER hot chick just inspite of HER, or better yet, a hot GUY and say that she made him gay. and then spike the new bf's drink with a roofie.

and then rape him.

lol
Jayme
Profile Blog Joined February 2009
United States5866 Posts
May 16 2009 06:49 GMT
#10
On May 16 2009 13:37 lilsusie wrote:
Show nested quote +
On May 16 2009 13:30 FuDDx wrote:
To be young again,ahhh good luck it will work out. Enjoy yourself and well just have fun,don't let some others let your night get ruined.


Heh I was thinking this too.

Like, OMG, Dan should totally bring some OTHER hot chick just inspite of HER, or better yet, a hot GUY and say that she made him gay. and then spike the new bf's drink with a roofie.

and then rape him.


I like how the "and then rape him" is pretty much added as an unimportant afterthought. "Do this this this this... oh yea and rape"
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