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gotwater
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States179 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-12 02:57:26
May 11 2009 20:38 GMT
#1
So after losing a game on iccup, I decided to play a computer just to go over my build order and stuff. I expected it to be just like any game versus a computer; an easy competitor at my disposal, but this computer had other plans...
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I didn\'t even know it was possible for computers to 4 pool.
( I went 9 overpool so I defended that initial rush )
replay

edit: so i decided to play again tonight and the first game i played i swear to god...
replay2
seriously, was this always implemented in the game?

*****
Everything counts.
~_~
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada239 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 20:43:54
May 11 2009 20:40 GMT
#2
its just not allowed in clan wars
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24752 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 20:44:33
May 11 2009 20:44 GMT
#3
On May 12 2009 05:40 ~_~ wrote:
its not bm... its just not allowed in clan wars

Which clan wars? Since when? See http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=89203

Yes computers do 4 pool sometimes.

I think many people learned that the hard way and have a secret history of losing to a comp once XD
ModeratorThere are animal crackers for people and there are people crackers for animals.
CharlieMurphy
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States22895 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 20:48:42
May 11 2009 20:46 GMT
#4
Wtf, pictures don't even make sense?

anti 4 pool
..and then I would, ya know, check em'. (Aka SpoR)
Misrah
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1695 Posts
May 11 2009 20:53 GMT
#5
lol i actually enjoyed this.
A thread vaguely bashing SC2? SWARM ON, LOW POST COUNT BRETHREN! DEFEND THE GLORIOUS GAME THAT IS OUR LIVELIHOOD
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 21:00:31
May 11 2009 20:59 GMT
#6
computers can't play standard. fucking skillless noobies
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
May 11 2009 20:59 GMT
#7
I played a 2v2v2v2c once and someone got double 4-pooled by the 2 computers, which randomly both got zerg. It was quite amusing.
I <3 서지훈
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
May 11 2009 21:05 GMT
#8
On May 12 2009 05:40 ~_~ wrote:
its not bm... its just not allowed in clan wars


ahahahaha
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
Fontong
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States6454 Posts
May 11 2009 21:07 GMT
#9
On May 12 2009 05:59 Kentor wrote:
computers can't play standard. fucking skillless noobies

yeah, they win doing stupid shit
[SECRET FONT] "Dragoon bunker"
Archon_Wing
Profile Joined May 2004
United States378 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 21:13:55
May 11 2009 21:11 GMT
#10
Aww, I was expecting the comp to make a pylon heart or something.

With some AI editing it's possible to make the AI talk when certain conditions are met, and maybe generate random insults/excuses. So if you want them comp to 4 pool you while calling you a noob, then saying you got lucky after it fails, you could do that. :D
Nothing witty here atm
Itachii
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Poland12466 Posts
May 11 2009 21:17 GMT
#11
Computers are too good
La parole nous a été donnée pour déguiser notre pensée
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 21:22:09
May 11 2009 21:21 GMT
#12
damn cheesers, you're not safe anywhere anymore, NOT EVEN IN SINGLEPLAYER
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
besiger
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
Croatia2452 Posts
May 11 2009 21:24 GMT
#13
On May 12 2009 06:11 Archon_Wing wrote:
Aww, I was expecting the comp to make a pylon heart or something.

With some AI editing it's possible to make the AI talk when certain conditions are met, and maybe generate random insults/excuses. So if you want them comp to 4 pool you while calling you a noob, then saying you got lucky after it fails, you could do that. :D


haha a ai like that sounds like fun, i might take a crack at it, the computer would 4 pool every game, when he would make 6 lings he would write G-.-G noob, after failing it he would call you a hacker for 1 minute, threaten to report you and leave.
A weak will coupled with delusions of grandeur
anderoo
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada1876 Posts
May 11 2009 21:36 GMT
#14
yeah once in a while a zerg will 4 pool
toss also does 14 nex and then makes cannons randomly around its base
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 11 2009 21:37 GMT
#15
On May 12 2009 06:21 Zoler wrote:
damn cheesers, you're not safe anywhere anymore, NOT EVEN IN SINGLEPLAYER

ROFL
On May 12 2009 06:24 besiger wrote:
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On May 12 2009 06:11 Archon_Wing wrote:
Aww, I was expecting the comp to make a pylon heart or something.

With some AI editing it's possible to make the AI talk when certain conditions are met, and maybe generate random insults/excuses. So if you want them comp to 4 pool you while calling you a noob, then saying you got lucky after it fails, you could do that. :D


haha a ai like that sounds like fun, i might take a crack at it, the computer would 4 pool every game, when he would make 6 lings he would write G-.-G noob, after failing it he would call you a hacker for 1 minute, threaten to report you and leave.

that would be a kik ass bot
ggyo...
Kaniol
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
Poland5551 Posts
May 11 2009 21:39 GMT
#16
Don't tell me, what a bm, did he even say GG when u killed him? If no show screen, that would prove for even worse BM!

Actually Toss also does fast DT tech. Not sure when computer learned these strats, i think that was quite long time ago, like with BW or with that patch which changed sunks to 300 hp/ 2 armor, added TvB and replays. Anyone who could confirm? ^^
Patriot.dlk
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
Sweden5462 Posts
May 11 2009 21:42 GMT
#17
jeez your supposted to know all the AI builds! =p see list below:

Terran:
- rushes with mmf
- Attacks with m&m tank later on

Protoss:
- rushes with zealots out of three gates
- rushes with 1 dark templar and then follow up with the standard zealot rush
- makes fast nexus and stupid cannons everywhere and bug out or make a normal protoss army

Protoss dont follow up the same every time but usally they attack with zealots and goons some time after first attack.

Zerg:
- rushes with 6 lings (4-pool) then follow up with the build below
- attacks with hydra lurker ling a bit later then all other attacks, it can happen about the same time a terran moves out with his m&m tank.

Zerg usually bugs out and does nothing but weird stuff after the first rush like parasiting and taking expos whiteout mining them
Kentor *
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5784 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-05-11 21:54:39
May 11 2009 21:52 GMT
#18
if it's an island map zergs know to make mutas and get drop
man they're so smart
R3condite
Profile Joined August 2008
Korea (South)1541 Posts
May 11 2009 21:55 GMT
#19
On May 12 2009 06:39 Kaniol wrote:
Don't tell me, what a bm, did he even say GG when u killed him? If no show screen, that would prove for even worse BM!

Actually Toss also does fast DT tech. Not sure when computer learned these strats, i think that was quite long time ago, like with BW or with that patch which changed sunks to 300 hp/ 2 armor, added TvB and replays. Anyone who could confirm? ^^

oh yeah... i remember playing comp once after the 1.5 update

and i was like WTF?!! DTS?!!
ggyo...
Tekin
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
2711 Posts
May 11 2009 21:57 GMT
#20
I guess we can learn something from the AI that they can cheese up a game against you!
Cheers! //¯◡◡¯\\ 문채원 | 한지우 -___-
TommyG
Profile Blog Joined March 2009
United States102 Posts
May 12 2009 02:04 GMT
#21
On May 12 2009 05:46 CharlieMurphy wrote:
Wtf, pictures don't even make sense?

anti 4 pool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr3PmNPbinM



if that guy got 4pooled he would have lost...
Avidkeystamper
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States8556 Posts
May 12 2009 02:09 GMT
#22
They always find ur base on the first try.
Jaedong
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
May 12 2009 04:58 GMT
#23
try making extremely quick mutas vs a t comp and he'll make a million firebats.

maybe thinking the mutas are lings?

no idea. o,o
PH
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States6173 Posts
May 12 2009 07:40 GMT
#24
Yeah, I hate that...one time I tried to 3v1 with all three comps as zergs, and I got 4 pooled by all three of them at once...T_T.
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