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On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government.
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Some hispanic girl at UCSD was wearing a facemask today
we fucked i think
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i sneezed when i was reading this
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That's it, I'm going to Madagascar, the one place that I know will be safe in a global pandemic.
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swine flu isn't anymore deadly than a regular flu left untreated (because there is no cure for swine flu)
most people here I am guessing are young adults in good health so it shouldn't be much of a concern
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On April 30 2009 18:26 Pangolin wrote: That's it, I'm going to Madagascar, the one place that I know will be safe in a global pandemic. their borders and ports are already closed. GG
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On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet.
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On May 01 2009 08:22 HeavOnEarth wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 18:26 Pangolin wrote: That's it, I'm going to Madagascar, the one place that I know will be safe in a global pandemic. their borders and ports are already closed. GG Lol. In case anyone is wondering...
+ Show Spoiler +Made by shavingcream66; from the 'Flash Game; Pandemic II' thread.
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On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side
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On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Because clearly the health issue is the only issue at work here?
Shutting down an entire border is a major decision that can have other ramifications. Obviously it takes more than the basic knowledge of epidemiology (which the CDC has obviously considered), to decide whether its the right thing to do.
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On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side
Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction.
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On May 01 2009 09:39 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote:On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction. lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme?
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On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms.
dont crai honkie
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On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote:
lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme?
millions?.. you are indeed retarded
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On April 30 2009 16:19 Maenander wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2009 15:31 Savio wrote:@ OP: That last time there was a true flu pandemic, it killed in 1-2 years a comparable number of people as the bubonic plague did in 10 years. It also targeted young healthy people rather than just old people and babies. So 20 years-olds would get sick then be dead a day or 2 later. I think some people though are blowing it out of proportion. Humans should have a healthy respect for disease. It has whooped our butts too many times in the past for us to not take it seriously. Read up on this: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1918_flu_pandemicNow, we don't know if this will be a pandemic like that one, but we better make sure we are taking seriously from the very beginning just in case. In absolute numbers the spanish flu might be comparable to the plague of 1348, but "only" 3 percent of the infected deceased, while a third of the european population died because of the black death. The world population was just much bigger in 1918. edit: of course I agree with you we should take this seriously, just wanted to make this clear edit: oops, someone was faster
This is definitely true. I almost included a sentence about how the world population was very different between the 2 time periods in my post.
But I do think that people forget how horrible the Spanish Flu really was. We talk a lot about wars killing a lot of people (think about all the news a little war like our invasion of Iraq got) and yet, at least in my school, we hardly talked about the Spanish Flu at all. That just seems weird to me.
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On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 09:39 Hawk wrote:On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote:On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction. lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme?
A) Realize we're in the middle of an economic shitstorm. What do you think happens to all trade with Mexico if we shut down our border? Closing borders is a last second resort that you don't fuck with unless you're damn sure that it's worth it B) For the love of god, learn what the fuck socialism is
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On May 01 2009 10:34 Hawk wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote:On May 01 2009 09:39 Hawk wrote:On May 01 2009 08:58 lokiM wrote:On May 01 2009 08:32 TheYango wrote:On April 30 2009 17:53 lokiM wrote:On April 30 2009 16:19 OverTheUnder wrote:On April 30 2009 15:46 lokiM wrote: we are fucked, obama doesn't want to secure our borders, seriously wouldn't be surprised if this completely broke out and kills millions, every other country seems to be taking precautions, but not the USA government.. we welcome illegal aliens that have this pig flu with open arms. quoting you on that so i can bring it up later and... the offical word from the CDC is that closing down our borders won't do jack shit lol that makes perfect sense, the fucking flu came from mexico. if you read anything on epidemics the first thing you want to do is control the source of it, it's just going to get worse and worse if nothing is controlled. And you pretty much proved my point, the CDC is the government. I think the point is that an organization created for the purpose of disease control and that is staffed with trained and educated professionals is 1000x more qualified to say whether closing our borders would make a difference than a random person on the internet. yeah you're a genius, this isn't just me saying this, there are hundreds of people including politicians saying this. seriously READ ANYTHING ON Epidemiology. then let's see if you still agree with that side Have you even considered the impact of closing the border, politically, economically and socially? There's a fine line between precaution and overreaction. lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? A) Realize we're in the middle of an economic shitstorm. What do you think happens to all trade with Mexico if we shut down our border? Closing borders is a last second resort that you don't fuck with unless you're damn sure that it's worth it B) For the love of god, learn what the fuck socialism is so you would take that chance, that's all you had to say.
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I'm surprised you're able to breathe on your own, FUCK
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On May 01 2009 10:29 food wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote:
lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? millions?.. you are indeed retarded are YOU retarded? have you ever heard of an epidemic? EDIT: even if it wasn't millions, lets say hundreds of thousands; it doesn't make a fucking difference
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On May 01 2009 10:52 lokiM wrote:Show nested quote +On May 01 2009 10:29 food wrote:On May 01 2009 10:16 lokiM wrote:
lol this is such socialist thinking it makes me sick, so you would rather have the chance of millions of people dieing for the sake of other political reasons that aren't as extreme? millions?.. you are indeed retarded are YOU retarded? have you ever heard of an epidemic? EDIT: even if it wasn't millions, lets say hundreds of thousands; it doesn't make a fucking difference
yawn watch the news or something. You living in your own world all alone.
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