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NSANE.hydra
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States644 Posts
April 07 2009 23:25 GMT
#21
On April 08 2009 07:49 anderoo wrote:
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On April 08 2009 07:39 da_head wrote:
On April 08 2009 07:25 ramen247 wrote:
On April 08 2009 07:21 inertinept wrote:
i still make fun of zergs for whining about zvp imbalance. zerg has it so easy in this matchup.

each race has their easy MU.

ZVP, PvT, TvZ



tterrans have it easy in tvz? zerg noob.

uh... no he's right.

i think it's pretty normal difficulty until defilers come out and then it's the most horribly difficult shit in the world


No, controlling Defilers is the most horribly difficult shit.
"fuck mech...I could 4pool and as long as he's simply PLANNING on going mech, I'll lose"
Grobyc
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Canada18410 Posts
April 07 2009 23:29 GMT
#22
On April 08 2009 08:25 NSANE.hydra wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 07:49 anderoo wrote:
On April 08 2009 07:39 da_head wrote:
On April 08 2009 07:25 ramen247 wrote:
On April 08 2009 07:21 inertinept wrote:
i still make fun of zergs for whining about zvp imbalance. zerg has it so easy in this matchup.

each race has their easy MU.

ZVP, PvT, TvZ



tterrans have it easy in tvz? zerg noob.

uh... no he's right.

i think it's pretty normal difficulty until defilers come out and then it's the most horribly difficult shit in the world


No, controlling Defilers is the most horribly difficult shit.

That's true but when you get to the higher levels of iccup basically every zerg can do it efficiently and it is a real bitch to deal with. Low level TvZ is probably favouring Terran TBH though. Mid-High level are a pain.
If you watch Godzilla backwards it's about a benevolent lizard who helps rebuild a city and then moonwalks into the ocean.
onihunter
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States515 Posts
April 08 2009 01:24 GMT
#23
On April 08 2009 06:34 Sprite wrote:
how do you have problems finding a D toss?


Exactly my thoughts
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AzureEye
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
United States1360 Posts
April 08 2009 02:25 GMT
#24
On April 08 2009 07:25 ramen247 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 08 2009 07:21 inertinept wrote:
i still make fun of zergs for whining about zvp imbalance. zerg has it so easy in this matchup.

each race has their easy MU.

ZVP, PvT, TvZ



tterrans have it easy in tvz? zerg noob.


Terrans DO have it easy in TvZ.

T has versatile builds and can open up in many different ways in TvZ, where you get less forgiven for making a mistake unlike ZvT.

Compare the number of TvZ specialists verses the number of ZvT specialists. I can name 3 famous TvZ player for every 1 famous ZvT player
Terrans who whine: http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?topic_id=107788
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