XXXXX = the girl with the bf I hate Emily = my current girlfriend
XXXXX =/= Emily
EDIT2:
I don't feel this way about asian girls. I've dated white and indian girls before so don't give me any BS about how I'm just being racist here. For fucks sake, this isn't about how that guy is white--it's about why in the hell she would like him when in spite of his great personality he's essentially going to be leeching off of her for the rest of his life.
This is the type of guy that I think her bf will grow up to be. (Read his posts from 2006)
EDIT3:
The guy I'm talking about here isn't referring to white people in general.
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"You always want what you can't have" --evanthebouncy
So awhile back, I wrote about how I liked this one girl who would never like me back, ever (http://www.teamliquid.net/blogs/viewblog.php?id=73421). Well, shit's been mostly ok until she pops up with her obnoxious douchefag white boyfriend (ok I'll just admit it, I'm jealous).
They're in town to see some friends, and since we got some mutual friends, we meet up for a get-together.
(I seriously need to hire someone to slap me upside the head every now and then...)
Well anyhow, we're having a nice dinner, she starts talking about how she's now working for her parents (HK art dealers)--and that's when it begins, when my heart starts beating a little faster, when my mind starts going blank and dreamy, because the whole reason I like her is that she's artistic and noble (only asian non-math non-econ non-CS major i knew) and rich and classy and everything that my crass money motivated ABC ass was not... and her bf is talking about his philosophy stuff (so boring) and how he's going to grad school back in his local state university. At this point all I was thinking is goddammit I worked so much harder than you at life... just because I'm not white you douchefag.
Then I look up from the menu and see that they're having a grand old time doing PDA with each other right in front of my face. Thank god crab legs are a food which gives you an excuse to stare at your plate.
At this point I'm thinking to myself "at least I didn't bring Em, then I'd be making a total ass of myself and ruining a new relationship with the ghost of an old failed unrequited stalker love."
Dinner: fucking awkward as shit. I think she could tell I still liked her by the way I would awkwardly glance at her and kind of swallow and mumble my way through the conversation. When her boyfriend asked her to pay for him, it took all my willpower not to stand up and say that I'd pay for them both and that she deserved someone better.
And later we go clubbing. Second bad mistake of the evening.
So I got piss-drunk at the club, and I think I was itching for a fight the whole evening just because the more I looked at her the more I just felt like I needed to kill something. So in the end I wound up fighting her boyfriend... who went to West Point for a year and knew how to fight. So yea I got my ass kicked, and worse, he thought I was just kidding around with him even though with that much alcohol in my system I really wanted to rip his nuts off. (apparently I looked like a rabid puppy trying to attack a doberman...exact quote)
Thank god my friends pulled us apart, else bad shit would have happened.
This morning, I wake up hurting all over and thinking "shit, Em is going to be wondering why I look like this..." I look on my phone and see a text from Em: "are you ok? herd u hd crazy last nite" then another text "=) when r u free".
don't know how to respond.
I hope she's going to be ok. Em and I, we like each other; XXXXX is just a dream in the air. But god I'm a fucking dumbass...
Ouch... that sounds harsh. I was rooting for you until you said you got beat up =x. I hope things get better though. i dont really have anything else to say, so, good luck!
On March 24 2009 23:57 Rho_ wrote: Rofl. I wonder if the reason she likes him and not you has to do with the fact that you're a judgmental, awkward, violent fuckwit.
yea probably. -sigh- it's just wierd that she's the only girl who brings this side of me out... normally i'm just, well, normal.
On March 24 2009 23:57 Rho_ wrote: Rofl. I wonder if the reason she likes him and not you has to do with the fact that you're a judgmental, awkward, violent fuckwit.
yea probably. -sigh- it's just wierd that she's the only girl who brings this side of me out... normally i'm just, well, normal.
We've all had those girls. Gotta move on man, be fair to the one you're seeing now and forget about her.
sounds like this bf of hers isn't even a bad guy (he might be, but you didn't mention any specific examples). It's not his fault the girl like's white guys. What I'm trying to say is that fighting her boyfriend is a terrible way of getting this girl to like you lol. But anyways sounds like this Em is a nice girl, I'd stick with her
LOL you shoulda never even got shit faced drunk to stand up to this guy. If anything you shoulda just danced with every other girl on the dance floor and try to make this Em chick as jealous as possible. For what I am hencing either you stop talking to this girl or either you are just going to make your life rougher by continuing to be nothing but "just friends" with this girl.
On March 25 2009 00:16 Kennelie wrote: LOL you shoulda never even got shit faced drunk to stand up to this guy. If anything you shoulda just danced with every other girl on the dance floor and try to make this Em chick as jealous as possible. For what I am hencing either you stop talking to this girl or either you are just going to make your life rougher by continuing to be nothing but "just friends" with this girl.
On March 24 2009 23:57 Rho_ wrote: Rofl. I wonder if the reason she likes him and not you has to do with the fact that you're a judgmental, awkward, violent fuckwit.
On March 25 2009 00:07 Metal[x] wrote: i liked the doberman puppy quote..
you should introduce me to this girl, im gnna go to HK soon again...i hope! =D
haha anybody I'd intro to XXXXX would probably be starting on the back foot with her (to borrow a quote from klaz). but i can give u her name if u want.
holy shit you wasted my time bro. I had to read your other post and this one to get where you're going. I think your post was so damn vague I probably missed the part where you did/didn't mention your whole problem was the love of your life is some asian girl and she's into white guys. THIS is exactly why asian girls dates or prefer white guys. White guys don't go home and make a blog about their white girls are dating outside the circle. Take my advice, I'm Asian too and I don't feel the same way, or maybe it's because we're different. This bitch is just stuck up, don't lose your sleep over it. You're making a huge ass deal over something not worth writing about, unless you just need to get it off your chest. I'm going to be an ass and hope Emily some how finds this and read it. How do you expect your real love to like you after you deem her bf does not fit her while you have a girlfriend. Honestly if you want REAL advice, I suggest you do what I would do. I would go tell xxxxx how I really feel about her so she can laugh in my face, maybe put me down, or call her bf to kick my ass some more. That way, it can help you change the way you feel/think about her, probably the only way to forget about her. If not she'll leave her current boyfriend to end up with you. Then you can go back to Emily and tell her what happened entirely. Pray to god emily won't cry and dump you and you'll be the biggest loser on the planet. Most likely she'll love you more though after being honest with her, that is if she doesn't make the rational decision of dumping you.
On March 25 2009 00:49 SaRangHaE wrote: holy shit you wasted my time bro. I had to read your other post and this one to get where you're going. I think your post was so damn vague I probably missed the part where you did/didn't mention your whole problem was the love of your life is some asian girl and she's into white guys. THIS is exactly why asian girls dates or prefer white guys. White guys don't go home and make a blog about their white girls are dating outside the circle. Take my advice, I'm Asian too and I don't feel the same way, or maybe it's because we're different. This bitch is just stuck up, don't lose your sleep over it. You're making a huge ass deal over something not worth writing about, unless you just need to get it off your chest. I'm going to be an ass and hope Emily some how finds this and read it. How do you expect your real love to like you after you deem her bf does not fit her while you have a girlfriend. Honestly if you want REAL advice, I suggest you do what I would do. I would go tell xxxxx how I really feel about her so she can laugh in my face, maybe put me down, or call her bf to kick my ass some more. That way, it can help you change the way you feel/think about her, probably the only way to forget about her. If not she'll leave her current boyfriend to end up with you. Then you can go back to Emily and tell her what happened entirely. Pray to god emily won't cry and dump you and you'll be the biggest loser on the planet. Most likely she'll love you more though after being honest with her, that is if she doesn't make the rational decision of dumping you.
haha, well your story made me cringe. if you're looking for a non-math non-econ non-CS major, why not try to get a white girl? and if you need a white guy to slap you upside the head, lemme know.
If you think that white people don't work hard then you are a peice of shit. That is all. I'm not even offended or anything by what you wrote, I just find it more funny how seriously dillusional you are over a girl. If a girl doesn't like you, your natural repsonse is to blame the entire world (have you stopped to think that maybe it might be you that has all the issues that you make you un-wanted by XXXXX?)
On March 25 2009 01:03 kidd wrote: If you think that white people don't work hard then you are a peice of shit. That is all. I'm not even offended or anything by what you wrote, I just find it more funny how seriously dillusional you are over a girl. If a girl doesn't like you, your natural repsonse is to blame the entire world (have you stopped to think that maybe it might be you that has all the issues that you make you un-wanted by XXXXX?)
You are the delusional (I am assuming you meant to say this word, other possibility being disillusioned, perhaps?) one if you do not think other races have to work harder than Caucasians in the US. Especially in regards to Asians who are very often not considered "minorities" in terms of receiving benefits but "minorities" in consideration with all racial detriments. If you j ust studied Asian American history for even one bit or looked into "Asian American stereotypes" perpetuated by media/Hollywood, you would not make such an ignorant claim as this.
actually if you have some fucking confidence and you get your act together BEFORE you start trying to land your dream girl none of that shit matters whatsoever
You get an internetz pat on the shoulder from this white guy. She probably brings out the worst in you because she seems to have all the things/properties you think you lack. All your frustrattions and insecurities won't disappear if she becomes your girlfriend. It is good you are aware of this.
You were obsessed with her by being to hard on yourself. This you reflect on the world. Hence the prickness.
It seems your gf EM accepts you the way you are weaknesses included. Girls like that are hard to find even for tall white guys.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
On March 25 2009 01:15 KaasZerg wrote: You get an internetz pat on the shoulder from this white guy. She probably brings out the worst in you because she seems to have all the things/properties you think you lack. All your frustrattions and insecurities won't disappear if she becomes your girlfriend. It is good you are aware of this.
You were obsessed with her by being to hard on yourself. This you reflect on the world. Hence the prickness.
It seems your gf EM accepts you the way you are weaknesses included. Girls like that are hard to find even for tall white guys.
Thanks. (not sarcastic, unlike what saranghae wrote above)
On March 25 2009 01:03 kidd wrote: If you think that white people don't work hard then you are a peice of shit. That is all. I'm not even offended or anything by what you wrote, I just find it more funny how seriously dillusional you are over a girl. If a girl doesn't like you, your natural repsonse is to blame the entire world (have you stopped to think that maybe it might be you that has all the issues that you make you un-wanted by XXXXX?)
You are the delusional (I am assuming you meant to say this word, other possibility being disillusioned, perhaps?) one if you do not think other races have to work harder than Caucasians in the US. Especially in regards to Asians who are very often not considered "minorities" in terms of receiving benefits but "minorities" in consideration with all racial detriments. If you j ust studied Asian American history for even one bit or looked into "Asian American stereotypes" perpetuated by media/Hollywood, you would not make such an ignorant claim as this.
You think I have no clue about Asian struggles when they first came to the states? God, you are an idiot. Seriously though that has nothing to do with today, do you honestly wake up in the morning thinking to yourself "I have to work extra hard today so I don't end up building railroads." Get over yourself...
What I meant by what I said is that all people have to work hard including Caucasians, I can't even believe you think that white people just skate through life. Do you also realize now that if you have a qualified white person and a qualified asian applying for a job, the asian will get the job just based off racial profiling? Don't come in here giving me your asian american stereotypes bullshit acting like you are the only race with any sort of issues.
What I meant by what I said is that all people have to work hard including Caucasians, I can't even believe you think that white people just skate through life. Do you also realize now that if you have a qualified white person and a qualified asian applying for a job, the asian will get the job just based off racial profiling? Don't come in here giving me your asian american stereotypes bullshit acting like you are the only race with any sort of issues.
What? What? Excuse me? You really think racial profiling works in FAVOR of Asian Americans? Perhaps you should realize that anti Asian American sentiments have never left just because we're not working at the railroads.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
I think you need to realize that you live in the real world and that all people are not friendly. People stare, get over it.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
I think you need to realize that you live in the real world and that all people are not friendly. People stare, get over it.
I think that you need to open your eyes a bit and accept that the real world isn't all nice and perfect as you make it out to be.
Um... there are actually Caucasians that works their ass off and so many other people of all backgrounds that currently resides within the United States. Again, I'm Asian and I will admit I work hard, but I don't think it gives me the right to say I work harder than everyone else. No one works harder than my God or your God having to listen to people bitching every second of the day(Does not apply to Atheists) . I don't believe t_co is racist because of his post. He has poor choice of words, that is all. He believes the male Caucasian deem not fit for the female Asian he has feelings towards. It was the alcohol talking. Yes, it was wrong of him claiming he deserves what he wants because he assumed he works harder than the male Caucasian. However we must not "beat the dead horse" as they say, otherwise he will forever be a lost soul and chose not to be found. t_co whatever you do, take some action! I support you 100%. Come back and write about it.
"Stop lookin' at what you aint got, Start bein' thankful for what you do got" -Clifford Joseph "T.I." Harris Jr.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
I think you need to realize that you live in the real world and that all people are not friendly. People stare, get over it.
I think that you need to open your eyes a bit and accept that the real world isn't all nice and perfect as you make it out to be.
The sooner you stop looking around and complaining about what other people are doing to you and focus on yourself, the quicker you realize your life is not as prejudiced as you think it is. Everyone works hard, everyone is stereotyped. Just get over it and stop hiding behind your nationality.
Honestly, the reason he's with her instead of you is that while you act like a groveling little bitch, mumbling through dinner, he's an "obnoxious douchefag" (read: cocky/funny/confident) which, as we've discussed ad nauseum on these boards, is what often attracts women to men.
To be blunt, most girls would rather have a doberman than a hyper-sensitive rabid puppy. I think you should quell your feelings of entitlement to her that seem to be founded on the fact you're both Asian.
"What you need to do is be thankful for the life you got, know what I'm saying? Stop looking at what you ain't got and start being thankful for what you do got. Let's give it 'em baby girl" -Clifford Joseph "T.I." Harris Jr.
Sounds like you have a fuck load of issues to work out.
I was confused about the edits at the top of the page at first but ya you say "if only I was white!" like it would help you be less of an awkward nerdy raging kid. =\
edit: also struck me funny how you LOVEEEEE her for being "artsy" then you slam him for talking philosphy when they go hand in hand.
Are you a CS/Economic asian like the ones you bashed in your op? ;p
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
Are you serious? I've never felt that way in NYC, especially tourist central Time Square. That place is swarming with Asians, I can't imagine people stare at you because you're Asian, your self consciousness must be completely in your head.
edit: I can't get over that you distinguished between Times Square and Union Square by saying one is a "more liberal area" that therefore don't stare at Asians.
the first post screams "oh hey, lets focus on an aspect that is completely outside my control and ignore the fact that she probably doens't like me for many of my other flaws which i have conveniently ignored by blaming it on race"
I love the way all these people call him racist and respond with all this random shit about the railroads and the struggles of the White Man in America. Hey, dumbasses, he never said it was easier for white guys until you brought it up, he said this guy was cruising through life (he's doing grad school, which many people do see as avoiding going into the real world to get a job).
This thread is awesome.
The OP is beyond a mess (lol linking to "a Western scoundrel in Shanghai, yes he's a playboy asshole, but dude, read some of his shit, he's like "Oh we used a condom and I couldn't finish it was no good so she gave me a handjob" and then he tries to claim he's better at sex than Chinese men, lololololloolololol), the white guy in the story probably is a douche (lol philosophy major, she probably will be supporting him - nowhere did he say white people have it easier dumbasses, just this guy is avoiding work by going into grad school), and all I can say is I feel sorry for poor Em.
Anyways to the OP you've got a lot of good advice if you read between the racist remarks and hilarious replies. It's never easy to get over the one that got away but if worst comes to worst you can always close your eyes when your with emily and fantasize, just remember not to moan out the other girls name.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
I'm sorry..what? asians can walk around times square without getting stared at? there has to be something i'm missing because in my experience this is totally false.
yes, i'm white and from brooklyn but i've been through times square plenty of times with friends of varying ethnicity and never have had a problem.
On March 25 2009 02:56 Hot_Bid wrote: the first post screams "oh hey, lets focus on an aspect that is completely outside my control and ignore the fact that she probably doens't like me for many of my other flaws which i have conveniently ignored by blaming it on race"
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
Stop being such a whiny bitch. I live in the NYC area and I'm Indian. You come across in your posts like a guy who loves to posture as the poor oppressed victim. LOL "everyone's looking at us" in NYC. People don't look twice at circus freaks in NYC, yet they're looking at you? Maybe you have some other problem?
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
Are you serious? I've never felt that way in NYC, especially tourist central Time Square. That place is swarming with Asians, I can't imagine people stare at you because you're Asian, your self consciousness must be completely in your head.
edit: I can't get over that you distinguished between Times Square and Union Square by saying one is a "more liberal area" that therefore don't stare at Asians.
I'll respond this and every other post. I am pointing out, Asian guy + hot caucasian girl in Times Square, you will get looks. Many many many of them. Also for the one white guy at Brooklyn responding, that's cute because I know when I was riding with one of my ex down near Sheepshead, I've had a guy stare at us the ENTIRE trip.
Also, if you guys really think I'm whining about the situation, it's quite the opposite. I've been in a relationship more often than single. In fact, aside from my junior high days, I've rarely had to deal with racism on a personal level.
On March 25 2009 01:13 FakeSteve[TPR] wrote: seriously no one who is white gives a shit that you are asian unless you live in south carolina
Steve, I agree with your previous statement but I live in NYC and I can tell you it matters here. Many many times, whoever I go out with would say, "Everyone's looking at us" when I'm around the Times Square region. Sure when I'm around the Union Square or the more liberal areas, no one would care but it is the majority that do and the minor that doesn't.
Are you serious? I've never felt that way in NYC, especially tourist central Time Square. That place is swarming with Asians, I can't imagine people stare at you because you're Asian, your self consciousness must be completely in your head.
edit: I can't get over that you distinguished between Times Square and Union Square by saying one is a "more liberal area" that therefore don't stare at Asians.
I'll respond this and every other post. I am pointing out, Asian guy + hot caucasian girl in Times Square, you will get looks. Many many many of them. Also for the one white guy at Brooklyn responding, that's cute because I know when I was riding with one of my ex down near Sheepshead, I've had a guy stare at us the ENTIRE trip.
Did you ever think they're staring at the hot girl and not you being asian? This makes no sense.
On March 24 2009 23:57 ffswowsucks wrote: rofl. you should get drunk and make a move to the girl saying how u feel etc not trying to start a fight with a doberman since ur a puppy. lolz
yeah and maybe the fact that you clearly don't seem to have any confidence since you were mumbling through sentences and side glancing at her and swallowing.
On March 24 2009 23:57 ffswowsucks wrote: rofl. you should get drunk and make a move to the girl saying how u feel etc not trying to start a fight with a doberman since ur a puppy. lolz
yeah and maybe the fact that you clearly don't seem to have any confidence since you were mumbling through sentences and side glancing at her and swallowing.
How old are you?
Hahaha I know that sucks. She's probably the only girl who makes me feel that way. But w/e I can just avoid her or sth.
KissBlade why do you only post in topics where your heritage is even slightly ambiguously and far-fetchedly mentioned? No one cares about your Asian2Asian guide to life.
On March 24 2009 23:47 t_co wrote: because the whole reason I like her is that she's artistic and noble (only asian non-math non-econ non-CS major i knew) and rich and classy and everything that my crass money motivated ABC ass was not...
yo i feel you, this quote in particular resonated with me shit happens, but just enjoy and take joy in beauty in the meantime do the right thing
On March 25 2009 02:56 Hot_Bid wrote: the first post screams "oh hey, lets focus on an aspect that is completely outside my control and ignore the fact that she probably doens't like me for many of my other flaws which i have conveniently ignored by blaming it on race"
WORD
Thanks--kind of true. But still doesn't take away from the fact that her boyfriend is a loser.
Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Also for the one white guy at Brooklyn responding, that's cute because I know when I was riding with one of my ex down near Sheepshead, I've had a guy stare at us the ENTIRE trip.
I'm glad you think it's cute...?
Sheepshead Bay is sort of a shit hole, home to a bunch of close minded white folks for sure. If it helps, there's a decent chance he wasn't even being racist - just a stupid, big mouthed fuck. I dunno, I hate that neighborhood. I was just talking about Times Square.
I mentioned that I was white and from Brooklyn only because I wanted to admit that my experience could obviously have been different from yours.
On March 25 2009 02:56 Hot_Bid wrote: the first post screams "oh hey, lets focus on an aspect that is completely outside my control and ignore the fact that she probably doens't like me for many of my other flaws which i have conveniently ignored by blaming it on race"
WORD
Thanks--kind of true. But still doesn't take away from the fact that her boyfriend is a loser.
Thats just your opinion because you are jealous, your comments make you not to a "winner" either
On March 25 2009 10:31 fanatacist wrote: KissBlade why do you only post in topics where your heritage is even slightly ambiguously and far-fetchedly mentioned? No one cares about your Asian2Asian guide to life.
Its not hard to figure out that he's really aggressive about how much the man has suffered due to 100 year old railroad worker stereotypes
you know, one time on the train this man totally looked at him for a while (and it was a white guy)
On March 25 2009 04:35 Turbovolver wrote: The OP is beyond a mess (lol linking to "a Western scoundrel in Shanghai, yes he's a playboy asshole, but dude, read some of his shit, he's like "Oh we used a condom and I couldn't finish it was no good so she gave me a handjob" and then he tries to claim he's better at sex than Chinese men, lololololloolololol), the white guy in the story probably is a douche (lol philosophy major, she probably will be supporting him - nowhere did he say white people have it easier dumbasses, just this guy is avoiding work by going into grad school), and all I can say is I feel sorry for poor Em.
Wow how is grad school "avoiding life"? They tell you specifically that you won't make it in grad school if that is what your looking for. Infact as a Philosophy major to get a job he pretty much HAS to go to grad school if he wants to actually work in the field. Philosophy has plenty of jobs in the academic sector as its AN ACADEMIC CAREER. I myself am going to grad school for biological anthropology and it the one thing that sucks about it is the fact that my real life is on hold (hard to get funds for wedding and starting family etc) so yea it does kind of put your life off a couple of years but its not why people do it. They want to work in the field and to do so they need to be highly educated.
Oh man... I think that... its just a phase you'll get over.
WTF man I seriously miss those days where I worried about school and the girls that I had liked in school. Now all I worry about is when I get my days off from the army. Sheesh.
On March 25 2009 10:31 fanatacist wrote: KissBlade why do you only post in topics where your heritage is even slightly ambiguously and far-fetchedly mentioned? No one cares about your Asian2Asian guide to life.
Because racial construct is an intriguing topic that's highly relevant in the current US-China geopolitical metagame. That and the fact that Asian Americans are not only the most self hating ethnicity but also often, the current socially persecuted ethnicity of choice because "no one cares". To put it simply, I simply find that Malcolm X's approach is the way to go. Sure, it's easier to take the route of simply plugging your ears and closing your eyes going, "nonono, this isn 't true." After all, I already stated, most of these things I point out doesn't effect me on a personal level. In fact, due to my background, I'd wager it effects me even less than most Asian Americans here.
By the way, if you guys are so insistent everything ended after the period the railroads, answer me this. Why has there never been one occasion ever of Hollywood giving an Asian American a leading role in a mainstream flick since Bruce Lee's time? Why do concepts like Long Dong Duk exist and continually exist? Why does ethnic antagonism constantly point towards blacks and Asian Americans first?
On March 25 2009 02:56 Hot_Bid wrote: the first post screams "oh hey, lets focus on an aspect that is completely outside my control and ignore the fact that she probably doens't like me for many of my other flaws which i have conveniently ignored by blaming it on race"
WORD
Thanks--kind of true. But still doesn't take away from the fact that her boyfriend is a loser.
Says the awkward asian guy mumbling through dinner conversation.
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
LOL so you did took my advice and told Emily everything huh. Pretty easy right? If she is cool with it and totally understand, she's a keeper. But keep in mind she will NEVER forget what you told her. It will be engrave in her memory for life. Chances are she will step outside the circle of trust now and will be more comfortable than ever two-timing you.
On March 25 2009 23:04 KissBlade wrote: That and the fact that Asian Americans are not only the most self hating ethnicity but also often, the current socially persecuted ethnicity of choice because "no one cares".
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
LOL so you did took my advice and told Emily everything huh. Pretty easy right? If she is cool with it and totally understand, she's a keeper. But keep in mind she will NEVER forget what you told her. It will be engrave in her memory for life. Chances are she will step outside the circle of trust now and will be more comfortable than ever two-timing you.
On March 25 2009 10:31 fanatacist wrote: KissBlade why do you only post in topics where your heritage is even slightly ambiguously and far-fetchedly mentioned? No one cares about your Asian2Asian guide to life.
Because racial construct is an intriguing topic that's highly relevant in the current US-China geopolitical metagame. That and the fact that Asian Americans are not only the most self hating ethnicity but also often, the current socially persecuted ethnicity of choice because "no one cares". To put it simply, I simply find that Malcolm X's approach is the way to go. Sure, it's easier to take the route of simply plugging your ears and closing your eyes going, "nonono, this isn 't true." After all, I already stated, most of these things I point out doesn't effect me on a personal level. In fact, due to my background, I'd wager it effects me even less than most Asian Americans here.
By the way, if you guys are so insistent everything ended after the period the railroads, answer me this. Why has there never been one occasion ever of Hollywood giving an Asian American a leading role in a mainstream flick since Bruce Lee's time? Why do concepts like Long Dong Duk exist and continually exist? Why does ethnic antagonism constantly point towards blacks and Asian Americans first?
First paragraph response: LOL
Second paragraph response: Name some good Asian actors (English-speaking, obviously) and why they are superior to white actors. You do realize that from an absolutely objective perspective, I can bring up many arguments against Asian lead roles that are not racist in the slightest.
1. Reflection of self factor Audiences around the world, in every country, love to relate to the main character of a movie, taking the hardships and trials of the persona in the movie and making parallels to their own lives. The majority of the American population is white. They would have trouble relating to the supposedly unique hardships and trials of Asians in America, and if the hardships aren't unique, then the fact that they are Asian makes it harder to associate their experience with the viewers'. It's an instinct that affects our psychology, reaching back thousands of years to early homo sapiens times of tribes and unity. If you want to discuss this further, read a social psychology book.
2. Physical attributes It is scientific fact, not racism, that the larger the visible whites of an animal are, the more intelligent it is perceived to be. Why? Mostly because larger eye-whites are responsible for a better expression of emotion, thus conveying depth of understanding and cognitive perception. Think about it this way, what organism makes a better case for empathy: a plant, a fish, a mouse or a dog? The prevalence of the dog's eye-whites over the other candidates makes it a clear choice, ignoring the "dog is man's best friend" stereotype. Not to compare Asians to dogs by any means, I have many friends that are Asian and an Asian girlfriend, but the same concept translates here. White people aren't inherently better actors, but (generally) larger eye-whites make it easier for them to translate emotion on the screen. There are exceptions on either end of the spectrum obviously, but still.
3. KissBlade WHY ARE THERE NO WHITE ACTORS IN LEADING ROLES IN CHINA? WHY DOES ETHNIC ANTAGONISM CONSTANTLY POINT TOWARDS WHITES (in some cases Japanese/Chinese/N. Koreans, depending on the host nation, but it's for the same reason) OVER THERE?
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Forgot to respond to this.
You are still a fuck-up. If you truly meant what you said (and I think you did because to lie and make this up just makes you that much more stupid), I don't see how she didn't dump you on the spot. Basically this is what she WANTS/NEEDS to hear about this topic:
I would never do anything with XXXXX -- Why? Because I love you and I realize that she is nothing to me, she isn't even a person to me just an object.
This is still not that good because you have already admitted attraction to her, but that would have been your best tactic.
What you did:
I would never do anything with XXXXX Good start -- Why? Because even if I banged her it wouldn't change the fact that she ignored me before and thus it wouldn't be a fulfilling experience FAIL Also it just pisses me off whenever I think about how she has such a shitty boyfriend EPIC FAIL
Basically, you are saying that you WOULD do something XXXXX if she didn't mistreat you before.PeopleMen Assholes tend to conveniently forget things like the past when they are put into a situation where pussy is imminent. Sure you might feel like shit later, but that would be later. And what you also told her is you would feel like shit because of the past and not because of the fact that you are cheating on Emily. Then you went a step further and passed judgment on her relationship with her boyfriend, saying he sucks. That infers that you can see yourself in his place, doing better than he is, making her happier. The reason his inferiority pisses you off is because you are jealous. Even if you aren't, that is basically the message you sent to Emily, and I don't know whether to hope she gets it and dumps you or doesn't get you and keeps your sorry ass around long enough for you to make it up to her.
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
LOL so you did took my advice and told Emily everything huh. Pretty easy right? If she is cool with it and totally understand, she's a keeper. But keep in mind she will NEVER forget what you told her. It will be engrave in her memory for life. Chances are she will step outside the circle of trust now and will be more comfortable than ever two-timing you.
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Forgot to respond to this.
You are still a fuck-up. If you truly meant what you said (and I think you did because to lie and make this up just makes you that much more stupid), I don't see how she didn't dump you on the spot. Basically this is what she WANTS/NEEDS to hear about this topic:
I would never do anything with XXXXX -- Why? Because I love you and I realize that she is nothing to me, she isn't even a person to me just an object.
This is still not that good because you have already admitted attraction to her, but that would have been your best tactic.
What you did:
I would never do anything with XXXXX Good start -- Why? Because even if I banged her it wouldn't change the fact that she ignored me before and thus it wouldn't be a fulfilling experience FAIL Also it just pisses me off whenever I think about how she has such a shitty boyfriend EPIC FAIL
Basically, you are saying that you WOULD do something XXXXX if she didn't mistreat you before.PeopleMen Assholes tend to conveniently forget things like the past when they are put into a situation where pussy is imminent. Sure you might feel like shit later, but that would be later. And what you also told her is you would feel like shit because of the past and not because of the fact that you are cheating on Emily. Then you went a step further and passed judgment on her relationship with her boyfriend, saying he sucks. That infers that you can see yourself in his place, doing better than he is, making her happier. The reason his inferiority pisses you off is because you are jealous. Even if you aren't, that is basically the message you sent to Emily, and I don't know whether to hope she gets it and dumps you or doesn't get you and keeps your sorry ass around long enough for you to make it up to her.
I didn't tell Emily the reasons why I wouldn't do the job on XXXXX. If she ever asks I'll tell her.
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Forgot to respond to this.
You are still a fuck-up. If you truly meant what you said (and I think you did because to lie and make this up just makes you that much more stupid), I don't see how she didn't dump you on the spot. Basically this is what she WANTS/NEEDS to hear about this topic:
I would never do anything with XXXXX -- Why? Because I love you and I realize that she is nothing to me, she isn't even a person to me just an object.
This is still not that good because you have already admitted attraction to her, but that would have been your best tactic.
What you did:
I would never do anything with XXXXX Good start -- Why? Because even if I banged her it wouldn't change the fact that she ignored me before and thus it wouldn't be a fulfilling experience FAIL Also it just pisses me off whenever I think about how she has such a shitty boyfriend EPIC FAIL
Basically, you are saying that you WOULD do something XXXXX if she didn't mistreat you before.PeopleMen Assholes tend to conveniently forget things like the past when they are put into a situation where pussy is imminent. Sure you might feel like shit later, but that would be later. And what you also told her is you would feel like shit because of the past and not because of the fact that you are cheating on Emily. Then you went a step further and passed judgment on her relationship with her boyfriend, saying he sucks. That infers that you can see yourself in his place, doing better than he is, making her happier. The reason his inferiority pisses you off is because you are jealous. Even if you aren't, that is basically the message you sent to Emily, and I don't know whether to hope she gets it and dumps you or doesn't get you and keeps your sorry ass around long enough for you to make it up to her.
I didn't tell Emily the reasons why I wouldn't do the job on XXXXX. If she ever asks I'll tell her.
"She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech."
Your wording was a bit ambiguous so I misunderstood. At least you'll be prepared if she questions you, which she probably will. Good luck :/
Good points that I'll address. (aside from the first obvious pointless one)
1) There are rarely given opportunities for any Asian American actors to even make it in the field so naming some would be a difficult process. However, I can tell you, I do have contacts in the field. Are you are familiar with producer Justin Lin? (he made Indianopolis, Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift, Better Luck Tomorrow, etc). Everyone agreed Sung Kim's role in that movie as Han was brilliant. Yet, when the character was first created, Lin had to fight tooth and nail to let the Asian guy be kept in as Han (in fucking Tokyo) instead of a black guy like Hollywood wanted. Similarly, Justin couldn't get a single backer (he funded Better luck Tomorrow out of his own pocket) because Hollywood insisted that the story be changed to an all white cast instead. Similarly, "21" was based on a real life story. Check the background of the story it was based on to answer any questions you might have about why I brought that up. If you want an instance where an Asian actor clearly outperforms the white lead, check, "http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/10/hooking-up.html" about the show "Hooking Up". Check B.D. Wong's own problems dealing with Hollywood. End point, how do you expect me to name Asian American male leads when Hollywood simply doesn't allow them any?
2) Self Reflection: fair point, except America is supposedly the melting pot where everyone is accepted as equals right? After all, if an African American can be voted into office, is it too much to ask for one Asian male lead?
3) Physical Attributes: Let's face it, prefacing something with, "this is not racism but scientific fact" has been said before with disastrous results. You seem intelligent enough to realize that's a fallacy by itself and nowhere good to start. Wider eyes are not scientifically associated with higher intelligence and never has. It is simply seen as more aesthetically pleasing to most Westerns. If you want to discuss scientific evidence, at some point, scientific evidence said that at one point, cranium size determined intellectual superiority. Much to the dismay of many Caucasians, this would quickly thrown out when Eastern cranium size was found often on average larger than Caucasians.
4) China and Japan are among some of the most racist countries in the world. I do not condone their abilities in that field either. I cannot speak for North korea as I have no background knowledge of it.
PS. Watch "Who killed Vincent Chin?" or "Scarlet Screen", etc if you're still adamant about your stance.
On March 26 2009 10:21 gzealot wrote: Off topic: Do white girls prefer asian guys?
Finding white girls who have Asian fetishes isn't tough. (I have no idea what is the cause of this actually, but it's pretty noticeable if you just looked around.) But having someone date you just because they have a sudden racial preference gets old fast.
Honestly, I've said my part on this matter. I gain no personal benefit from you either acknowledging or denying my side. Most of my friends/colleagues are white. Most of them are not racist and if they are, it's hardly any more than the usual regular humans share. I work in a predominantly Caucasian field. Up to this point, I have dated more or less, only Caucasians and two of my uncles are married to Caucasian wives as well as my cousin so it's not like I'm going to say, "OMG Asian girls dating non Asian guys is wrong!!" because that would just make me a hypocrite.
Dating because of a racial preference is stupid, be it black guy/white girl, white guy/asian girl, jewish guy/indian girl (really weird fetish but actually really common amongst my friends).
On March 25 2009 10:31 fanatacist wrote: KissBlade why do you only post in topics where your heritage is even slightly ambiguously and far-fetchedly mentioned? No one cares about your Asian2Asian guide to life.
Because racial construct is an intriguing topic that's highly relevant in the current US-China geopolitical metagame. That and the fact that Asian Americans are not only the most self hating ethnicity but also often, the current socially persecuted ethnicity of choice because "no one cares". To put it simply, I simply find that Malcolm X's approach is the way to go. Sure, it's easier to take the route of simply plugging your ears and closing your eyes going, "nonono, this isn 't true." After all, I already stated, most of these things I point out doesn't effect me on a personal level. In fact, due to my background, I'd wager it effects me even less than most Asian Americans here.
By the way, if you guys are so insistent everything ended after the period the railroads, answer me this. Why has there never been one occasion ever of Hollywood giving an Asian American a leading role in a mainstream flick since Bruce Lee's time? Why do concepts like Long Dong Duk exist and continually exist? Why does ethnic antagonism constantly point towards blacks and Asian Americans first?
First paragraph response: LOL
Second paragraph response: Name some good Asian actors (English-speaking, obviously) and why they are superior to white actors. You do realize that from an absolutely objective perspective, I can bring up many arguments against Asian lead roles that are not racist in the slightest.
1. Reflection of self factor Audiences around the world, in every country, love to relate to the main character of a movie, taking the hardships and trials of the persona in the movie and making parallels to their own lives. The majority of the American population is white. They would have trouble relating to the supposedly unique hardships and trials of Asians in America, and if the hardships aren't unique, then the fact that they are Asian makes it harder to associate their experience with the viewers'. It's an instinct that affects our psychology, reaching back thousands of years to early homo sapiens times of tribes and unity. If you want to discuss this further, read a social psychology book.
2. Physical attributes It is scientific fact, not racism, that the larger the visible whites of an animal are, the more intelligent it is perceived to be. Why? Mostly because larger eye-whites are responsible for a better expression of emotion, thus conveying depth of understanding and cognitive perception. Think about it this way, what organism makes a better case for empathy: a plant, a fish, a mouse or a dog? The prevalence of the dog's eye-whites over the other candidates makes it a clear choice, ignoring the "dog is man's best friend" stereotype. Not to compare Asians to dogs by any means, I have many friends that are Asian and an Asian girlfriend, but the same concept translates here. White people aren't inherently better actors, but (generally) larger eye-whites make it easier for them to translate emotion on the screen. There are exceptions on either end of the spectrum obviously, but still.
3. KissBlade WHY ARE THERE NO WHITE ACTORS IN LEADING ROLES IN CHINA? WHY DOES ETHNIC ANTAGONISM CONSTANTLY POINT TOWARDS WHITES (in some cases Japanese/Chinese/N. Koreans, depending on the host nation, but it's for the same reason) OVER THERE?
Good points that I'll address. (aside from the first obvious pointless one)
1) There are rarely given opportunities for any Asian American actors to even make it in the field so naming some would be a difficult process. However, I can tell you, I do have contacts in the field. Are you are familiar with produce Justin Lin? (he made Indianopolis, Fast and Furious: Tokyo Drift, Better Luck Tomorrow, etc). Everyone agreed Sung Kim's role in that movie as Han was brilliant. Yet, when the character was first created, Lin had to fight tooth and nail to let the Asian guy be kept in as Han (in fucking Tokyo) instead of a black guy like Hollywood wanted. Similarly, Justin couldn't get a single backer (he funded Better luck Tomorrow out of his own pocket) because Hollywood insisted that the story be changed to an all white cast instead. Similarly, "21" was based on a real life story. Check the background of the story it was based on to answer any questions you might have about why I brought that up. If you want an instance where an Asian actor clearly outperforms the white lead, check, "http://latimesblogs.latimes.com/webscout/2008/10/hooking-up.html" about the show "Hooking Up". Check B.D. Wong's own problems dealing with Hollywood. End point, how do you expect me to name Asian American male leads when Hollywood simply doesn't allow them any?
2) Self Reflection: fair point, except America is supposedly the melting pot where everyone is accepted as equals right? After all, if an African American can be voted into office, is it too much to ask for one Asian male lead?
3) Physical Attributes: Let's face it, prefacing something with, "this is not racism but scientific fact" has been said before with disastrous results. You seem intelligent enough to realize that's a fallacy by itself and nowhere good to start. Wider eyes are not scientifically associated with higher intelligence and never has. It is simply seen as more aesthetically pleasing to most Westerns. If you want to discuss scientific evidence, at some point, scientific evidence said that at one point, cranium size determined intellectual superiority. Much to the dismay of many Caucasians, this would quickly thrown out when Eastern cranium size was found often on average larger than Caucasians.
4) China and Japan are among some of the most racist countries in the world. I do not condone their abilities in that field either. I cannot speak for North korea as I have no background knowledge of it.
PS. Watch "Who killed Vincent Chin?" or "Scarlet Screen", etc if you're still adamant about your stance.
The following statements are made by excluding people such as Jackie Chan and Jet Li, because they define a genre which is predominantly seen as Asian and requires a completely different skill set than drama actors (or at least lead actors in movies that are not martial arts movies), which I think is the focal point of this argument.
1) FF:Tokyo was seen as a flop by many critics and most of the people I have talked to about, but that is somewhat irrelevant. The role of Han (actor's name is Sung Kang btw), is played by the same actor that played the sniper Goi in "War," and neither of the roles were very emotionally/intellectually challenging, I think you will agree. I am not saying that he is necessarily a bad actor, just that the roles are not suited for making a point about his acting capabilities. I don't expect you to name English-speaking Asian leads that are better than white leads, I expect you to name English-speaking Asian actors** that have proved they have the acting ability to take a lead role. Many Hollywood actors start on shows, in minor TV appearances, etc., there must be at least one or two examples for you to bring up in order to make a point about WHY Asian-American actors should receive the same attention as white actors. This isn't affirmative action we're talking here. My problem with the show you linked me is that the people in the show aren't hired actors in the traditional sense, it seems to be more of a reality show type casting, where they looked at people pertaining to a certain group and pulled out a few.
2) Even if we are forced to recognize others as equals (I have to make it clear at this point that the "forced" is in reference to the population and the law, not my personal belief on the matter) by the law of the nation, many people in America are racist by upbringing against minorities, other minorities, or the majority, depending on the family background. Beyond that, the power of empathy isn't a conscious or fair process where a person considers the fact that we are all humans and that we are all equal, and that they should feel just as bad for an Asian person who lost their wife in a movie as they should for a white person in the same position. It's a subconscious response. Politics, despite what it may seem is serious business, and although charisma and other things are large parts of it and thus also rely on race and racial implications, I think it's safe to say that when voting for a president the brain goes through a much more conscious thought process than when an audience experiences emotions in relation to visual stimuli on a screen. This makes your point more or less irrelevant to the situation. Hollywood is business, and they know what sells and what doesn't. Let's be generous and say that Asian-Americans make up 15% of the population, which I am pretty sure they don't. Although more Asian-Americans may attend a movie with an Asian lead actor, there would conversely be less viewers from other minorities and the white majority, and that is bad business. On the other hand, a white lead would get the usual turn-out from all populations, which is what makes more money, which is what Hollywood wants. Black actors had to force themselves onto the scene to be at the point where people like Denzel Washington, Will Smith, etc. can have lead roles in movies and be considered great actors and receive massive post-office turn-outs. This probably took decades, and although I have some knowledge of the American history of film, I can't say how long or how difficult it was to do so, but I think Asian actors dug themselves and their future colleagues a cinematographic grave by focusing solely on action movies in the early years of their presence in cinema. Asians merely have to go through a similar process as African-Americans to achieve the status that is available to the aforementioned actors. Whether it will be harder or easier, when it will come about, who knows. Do you agree?
3) Note, I have never said that there is a direct correlation between intelligence and eye-white size, that is retarded. I said that for animals, the larger the visible eye-whites, the more intelligent it is perceived to be because it is capable of conveying emotions better than other animals. I made this analogy to the average size of white people's eyes and Asian eyes, which IS fact (I don't think you will argue that on average the size of an Asian person's eye is smaller than a white person's). This does not mean Asians are inherently stupider, or that they cannot convey emotion at all. It is just one thing that limits their ability to do the latter, in respect to white actors. Of course, like I said, there are exceptions to every standard and average, with shitty emotionless white actors everywhere and very telling expressions on the faces of foreign Asian drama actors. This ties in pretty well to what you said about what is aesthetically pleasing to Western audiences. Movies are all about appearance nowadays, unless you aren't coming out of Hollywood and are part of some IFC film. This is evidenced by make-up, plastic surgery, special effects, video-editing to make actors more attractive, etc. It is also evidenced by the fact that most people in America would prefer a white lead actor than an Asian one. Why? Movies are increasingly becoming a visual experience, often departing from storyline and plot emphases to add an extra oomph to the "wow" factor of what people paid to see. Examples of this? Watchmen. Terrible plot (my opinion at least), dopeass graphics. Another? No Asian lead actors. Even if they were MORE talented than white actors, I doubt there would be a significantly higher number of Asian leads in Hollywood.
4) I meant that Chinese antagonize Japanese/Whites, Japanese antagonize Chinese/Whites, and S. Koreans antagonize N. Koreans/Japanese/Chinese and sometimes Whites.
EDIT: If those are movies, tell me what point they prove and I will consider it, but I make no promises because I have slow internet here and not much free time.
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Forgot to respond to this.
You are still a fuck-up. If you truly meant what you said (and I think you did because to lie and make this up just makes you that much more stupid), I don't see how she didn't dump you on the spot. Basically this is what she WANTS/NEEDS to hear about this topic:
I would never do anything with XXXXX -- Why? Because I love you and I realize that she is nothing to me, she isn't even a person to me just an object.
This is still not that good because you have already admitted attraction to her, but that would have been your best tactic.
What you did:
I would never do anything with XXXXX Good start -- Why? Because even if I banged her it wouldn't change the fact that she ignored me before and thus it wouldn't be a fulfilling experience FAIL Also it just pisses me off whenever I think about how she has such a shitty boyfriend EPIC FAIL
Basically, you are saying that you WOULD do something XXXXX if she didn't mistreat you before.PeopleMen Assholes tend to conveniently forget things like the past when they are put into a situation where pussy is imminent. Sure you might feel like shit later, but that would be later. And what you also told her is you would feel like shit because of the past and not because of the fact that you are cheating on Emily. Then you went a step further and passed judgment on her relationship with her boyfriend, saying he sucks. That infers that you can see yourself in his place, doing better than he is, making her happier. The reason his inferiority pisses you off is because you are jealous. Even if you aren't, that is basically the message you sent to Emily, and I don't know whether to hope she gets it and dumps you or doesn't get you and keeps your sorry ass around long enough for you to make it up to her.
I didn't tell Emily the reasons why I wouldn't do the job on XXXXX. If she ever asks I'll tell her.
if she ever asks, she is not looking for a rundown of your history with another girl. she wants affirmation that her relationship with you is secure
please learn some stuff about girls before you dish out heavy stuff like this to anyone you can seriously hurt someone by saying things so carelessly and it's not cool to do that to someone just because you can't handle your own emotions
On March 25 2009 10:56 fanatacist wrote: Okay I just read the OP, here's what I have to say.
Hey dumbshit, you have a fucking girlfriend and you care about how stupid some other girl's boyfriend is? She is a "dream in the air"? I feel sorry for your girlfriend because you are a douchebag, it's people like you who are prone to cheating even though you have a girl who clearly likes you, at least more than you like her. Many people aren't that fortunate/minimally socially capable to have a girlfriend in the first place, and yet you don't appreciate what you have and have the hots for some random chick? I hope your girlfriend finds this and dumps you so you realize how miserable you are without her, thinking about some girl who is taken when you already have one.
Have you ever thought that maybe there is more to this "dumbass" boyfriend than you see if the girl YOU seem to want so badly is with him? I don't think she is just lonely and incapable of doing better from what you said, I think you are just too much of a dumbass (like you said, but for a different reason) to see it.
In your post you have shown that you are a belligerent drunk, unappreciative ass, bad boyfriend at least in this respect and probably others, and a retard in terms of your racial perception of the world. I think you need a reality check. You got something going for you and like a pig you try to get more and more, is Emily not enough for you? If so, then I think you should do both yourself and her a favor and end it now before she finds out (and trust me, they ALWAYS find out) that you harbor so much shit under the surface.
Imagine if she read this, how would she feel? Now, realize the fact that YOU, her BOYFRIEND, wrote it. How does that make YOU feel?
I've thought about it for awhile too. I told her tonight and she seemed to take it ok. She asked if I'd ever thought about doing anything with XXXXX, and I could truthfully tell her no because, even if I could get away with it scot-free because I wouldn't be able to forget all the times she just gave me the cold shoulder and treated me like shit, and those sorts of memories kind of get in the way. I don't want that girl, I get pissed when I see her with a boyfriend who is clearly a leech.
And I think that other posters have already answered why my OP is not racist in intent. I apologize for the awkward nature of it. It's not every day that I write about something like this, after all.
Forgot to respond to this.
You are still a fuck-up. If you truly meant what you said (and I think you did because to lie and make this up just makes you that much more stupid), I don't see how she didn't dump you on the spot. Basically this is what she WANTS/NEEDS to hear about this topic:
I would never do anything with XXXXX -- Why? Because I love you and I realize that she is nothing to me, she isn't even a person to me just an object.
This is still not that good because you have already admitted attraction to her, but that would have been your best tactic.
What you did:
I would never do anything with XXXXX Good start -- Why? Because even if I banged her it wouldn't change the fact that she ignored me before and thus it wouldn't be a fulfilling experience FAIL Also it just pisses me off whenever I think about how she has such a shitty boyfriend EPIC FAIL
Basically, you are saying that you WOULD do something XXXXX if she didn't mistreat you before.PeopleMen Assholes tend to conveniently forget things like the past when they are put into a situation where pussy is imminent. Sure you might feel like shit later, but that would be later. And what you also told her is you would feel like shit because of the past and not because of the fact that you are cheating on Emily. Then you went a step further and passed judgment on her relationship with her boyfriend, saying he sucks. That infers that you can see yourself in his place, doing better than he is, making her happier. The reason his inferiority pisses you off is because you are jealous. Even if you aren't, that is basically the message you sent to Emily, and I don't know whether to hope she gets it and dumps you or doesn't get you and keeps your sorry ass around long enough for you to make it up to her.
I didn't tell Emily the reasons why I wouldn't do the job on XXXXX. If she ever asks I'll tell her.
if she ever asks, she is not looking for a rundown of your history with another girl. she wants affirmation that her relationship with you is secure
please learn some stuff about girls before you dish out heavy stuff like this to anyone you can seriously hurt someone by saying things so carelessly and it's not cool to do that to someone just because you can't handle your own emotions
t_co - honestly, you should break up with Em. You clearly, don't feel as strongly about her as she does about you. If she truly made you happy, then you wouldn't be thinking about another girl, no matter how awesome that girl was. A relationship like this is doomed from the start. And she sounds like a nice girl, so it's probably not right to make her invest her time in a relationship that doesn't mean that much to you.
As far as the BF is concerned, how well do you know him really? It's very easy to pass judgement on others, especially when they have something you want, it's pretty natural to convince yourself that you "deserve" it more and are therefore justified in coveting something that isn't yours, (not that XXXXX belongs to someone).
On March 25 2009 01:03 kidd wrote: If you think that white people don't work hard then you are a peice of shit. That is all. I'm not even offended or anything by what you wrote, I just find it more funny how seriously dillusional you are over a girl. If a girl doesn't like you, your natural repsonse is to blame the entire world (have you stopped to think that maybe it might be you that has all the issues that you make you un-wanted by XXXXX?)
You are the delusional (I am assuming you meant to say this word, other possibility being disillusioned, perhaps?) one if you do not think other races have to work harder than Caucasians in the US. Especially in regards to Asians who are very often not considered "minorities" in terms of receiving benefits but "minorities" in consideration with all racial detriments. If you j ust studied Asian American history for even one bit or looked into "Asian American stereotypes" perpetuated by media/Hollywood, you would not make such an ignorant claim as this.
oh yeah seriously! coming from NY i didn't realize that madd ppl were racist against asians but apparently they r... i've had my fair share of racial discrimination... and the worst part is it was mostly by other "minorities" like african americans... sigh
rofl this one time i totally got like 30 min check at an airport for some random unknown reason...they did everything but strip me naked and violate me haha