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I play on the highest, pop wise, Open RvR server Dark Crag. On that server I have a level 19 Engineer with exactly 14 gold. Constantly I see that the Dwarf vs Greenskin pairing the Destruction capital either being contested or literally Order controlled, all the damn time. That sucks , the only reason I rolled an Order char was because the Destruction/Order ratio on the server was literally 3:1 when it launched and I like being the underdog. Now I have no problem with Order capturing the Inevitable City but several times a week is downright boring and is no fun. Right now even at Tier 2 where I am it Order simply zergs the Battle Objectives and then the Keep. Then will either go to the other area to rinse and repeat. Now granted Destro would/did/does the same thing when the opportunity arises but it seems they have to add more strategic value to it seeing how they know a wave of Order will come.
It all comes down to one guild apparently that is doing all of this. For which I am in the Tier 2 part of the guild. Some say the reason that this has occurred is because this certain guild Zergs everything, in fact the Alliance the Guild is in, I think, is all the Tiered parts of said Guild. Once you reach the level that can partake in Tier 3 you are transferred to the Tier 3 portion of the guild and are no longer in the Tier 2 portion of the guild. It is that big!
I no longer feel like the underdog anymore but literally part of a system that is staling the gameplay of the server and sure I love my Engineer but I have always wanted to try a Squig Herder but there is no other High pop ORVR server except Dark Crag!
Do I fight the power, or benefit from that power... hm.
Rvr Status for Dwarf vs Greenskin
If you want to know which Guild it is just look here, it won't be too hard:
http://www.warhammeralliance.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=138
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sigh, i had created a SW on that server when it first came out, then people i knew started playing so i kept creating anew one, and a new one, till my 5th SW on skull throne, which is a medium pop server and it blows. The people i moved for dont even play anymore and i can only do scenarios from like 7-10pm, its.. sigh. Seems like a fun game but you have to be lucky to be on a good server i think
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im still only rank 14 or so, i seem to get to rank 15~ and then create a new one. I think my SW on dark crag is 14 or something
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Dude I'm destruction on Dark Crag and also Tier 2 and tonight we had every single T2 keep and then we took every single T2 BO. So at least at Tier 2 Ruin has not been ruining my fun. I will say that we've been getting a lot more strategic and the extra challenge has been fun.
I assume you are in Ruin. How big is it really? I just joined Rage tonight and its over 400 people and I heard someone say Ruin is 300 something though I think that is a lie or they have multiple Ruin guilds (Ruinous, Rhuin, etc).
Squig Herders are a lot of fun! I think I am going to main a Black Orc at least until the 1.2 nerf goes live... but my two characters are a lvl 12 Blorc and lvl 12 SHerder so I'm still not sure I love them both out of the 5 classes ive tried (didnt like magus, kinda liked Zealot and DoK.
I really like the game at this point, the open rvr is really exciting when people actually attack keeps that are defended. Hopefully they do something like how they marked players for the last live event except mark a keep or something so there will be more clash.
I think the game works pretty well until tier 4 when everything gets super serious. I hear Ruin puts 500 people in to defend an area in rvr and then an equal number of destruction can't even zone in or the server crashes...
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When Ruin first started in D.C, Order was a total fucking joke, and massive Destro zergs would roll over everything from t1 to t4. The Order t4 players back then all quit or just hide themselves in PvE dungeons/scenarios while their incomptent leaders would log off whenever the shit hits the fan. It's exactly the opposite of what is happening now, except Destruction do have the numbers(more than Order), but lack smart leadership and unselfish players.
The result of Order's incompetence was Ruin organizing t4 fortress defenses to prevent Destruction from sieging Altdorf and getting Invader gear unhindered, but the Destruction zergs were so huge that we had to bring anyone that is 20 or higher in to try and defend in the lord's room. No other guilds cared enough to defend their city, only very few random pug volunteers from various guilds would show up (and many of them ended up joining Ruin). I was one of those people that showed up and helped with chain rezzing/healing as a lowbie WP. Destruction is completely hypocritical in their complaint of the Order zerg, back in their peak they could push 2 fortresses with 4 warbands simultaneously and that is something that isn't possible even now for Order.
Don't believe all the garbage people are saying on the forums. Most of the players that are not in Ruin or Hate are worthless talicoating parasites that only showed up and tag alone with Ruin for free loot, and are incapable of doing anything by themselves. If it wasn't for the Ruin transfer, the server would've been dead by now. I renewed my sub because Ruin has a good leadership that actually cares about winning and gearing up their members, which is rare for a guild this big. I've had multiple t3/t4 chars on Phoenix Throne and Skull Throne as well, but none of the guilds I was in were as organized and lead as well as Ruin.
How would I know this? I canceled my subscription 1 month before Ruin transferred and so many people were quitting the game as well, back then I had a t4 BW as well and the Order faction was just terrible in its maturity level and leadership quality, and Destruction was just so massive that they would overwhelm almost any Order forces anyway, and it got worse when the WoW expansion came out.
When Ruin began to have more people in t4 and Hate transferred over, the game became insanely fun, both factions would field large warbands and actually fight each other in open field and in keeps/BOs, if it wasnt for these epic fights, I wouldn't have renewed my sub for sure, the game is that fun when people actually fight. But as Order starts to win more and more( through better organization and strategy), Destruction became more demoralized, and stopped showing up. Order did not always won because of superior numbers.
Also, concerning Ruin's size, only 40-60 people are available usually at prime time for t4 RvR, but it's usually 3 warbands on on average. The rest of the numbers are from other Order guilds that tag along for the free renown. We are not as big as the retards make us out to be. If we really had 1500 active, useful members, Warhammer Online would be doing better than WoW, and there would be a 1hr queue to log in.
In conclusion, Destruction are whining about zerging because their leaders are so bad that they dont want to follow them to fight in open RvR, otherwise they have the most number of players capable of "outzerging" Order. Until Mythic puts in a system that encourages people to defend, you will find tons of Keep/BO trading with no resistance, and one faction always whining when they could be defending their faction.
When Lords of the Dead(a well known, very organized PvP guild that rerolled to D.C recently) hits t4 as Destro, there will be more actual fighting, and it will be more challenging for sure.
I have 5/6 invader gear on my engi and I can wear them, all thanks to the guild, but I am also bored of t4 and haven't logged on in 2 days because of Destruction's incompetence. I will definitely play more once LotD start to become more active in t4.
Anyway sorry about the long rant, Warhammer alliance is a shit forum filled with retards, so don't believe everything that they say.
If you have more questions you can PM me in game or here(Gundamium in game). I am as elitist as can be when it comes to MMOs and guilds, but trust me when I say that this guild will take care of you as long as you are not stupid, and listen to smart leadership.
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speaking of Lords of the Dead, Ebonlore has joined as destro on Dark Crag. I know they thought themselves as badasses in conan and they were experts at exploiting the hell out of that game so maybe theyll be competitve although i hear Ebonlore plus LOTD were supposed to challenge Ruin tonight and chickened out / didn't for whatever reason.
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In MMO's always play the evil ugly faction, because all the children will play the *order* or *alliance*
and outnumber the uglies 10:1
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yeah they definitely hacked in Conan
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On February 21 2009 23:49 Etherone wrote:
In MMO's always play the evil ugly faction, because all the children will play the *order* or *alliance*
and outnumber the uglies 10:1
Warhammer's definitely bucking that trend
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bump for fileplanet having a free 10 day trial - give a try TLers!
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