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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 10:14:52
February 07 2009 10:13 GMT
#1
Recently, I have been worried about my improvement rate, especially my eapm in particular. It is a terrible 100-130. No matter how hard I try to improve that, I always get within that range. I came back to starcraft two weeks ago from a 3 month break. I believe I had around 100-80 eapm before I took the break. Now I am at 100-130 so so I guess that is a tiny improvement. However, my eapm haven't gone up in the past week. Is this normal or not?

However, I do realize my play improving as I get more used to b/o and get more used to sc in general again.

I have an acc with C- rank with dead 50 percent win ratio and a D+ rank acc for only ZvT with around 70 percent win ratio if anyone is wondering.

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De4ngus
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States6533 Posts
February 07 2009 10:17 GMT
#2
Dude, APM =/= improvement rate.
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WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
February 07 2009 10:22 GMT
#3
My main problem is that I have trouble clicking faster. Sometimes I have trouble keeping my mineral low and perform hive tech properly either because I am too busy microing my mutas or something or I simply do not have enough multitasking skils....

Miraculously, this problem is a lot smaller in my ZvP as I hardly ever go over 1k minerals in ZvP. (maybe it's because there are so much protoss on iccup -.-)
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
February 07 2009 10:27 GMT
#4
What do you mean "is it normal", there aren't any set rules on how fast you should be improving. And eapm doesn't measure how good you are anyway. Anyway, less thinking about what you've already played and more playing.
No I'm never serious.
WindCalibur
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Canada938 Posts
February 07 2009 10:33 GMT
#5
Well I'm wondering if maybe I hit my limit or something....
stet_tcl
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
Greece319 Posts
February 07 2009 10:34 GMT
#6
From my experience the learning procedure goes through these phases, like you may get stuck for a while and suddenly improve etc. Its definitely not linear..
My advice would be don't worry about it

If you see its working for you try taking an other break at some point, perhaps not as long though.
whatusername
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Canada1181 Posts
February 07 2009 11:08 GMT
#7
i used to be like you, always worrying about my apm and how much it improves

but once I started to stop thinking about it, my apm actually improved a lot more
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Aesop
Profile Joined October 2007
Hungary11305 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 11:57:09
February 07 2009 11:56 GMT
#8
Play some Reflex for mouse speed practice (http://www.missionred.com). It's not the real thing, but I feel like my speed and accuracy improves.
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Phrujbaz
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Netherlands512 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-02-07 12:26:41
February 07 2009 12:18 GMT
#9
Practice theory teaches that when you hit a wall, you're missing something essential.

My advice is to SLOW DOWN and put all of your brainpower into figuring out what you're doing wrong.
On February 07 2009 19:34 stet_tcl wrote:
From my experience the learning procedure goes through these phases, like you may get stuck for a while and suddenly improve etc. Its definitely not linear..
My advice would be don't worry about it

If you see its working for you try taking an other break at some point, perhaps not as long though.

You get stuck at a wall until you figure it out, then you improve quickly, up to your next wall. That is the reason behind the "jumping" pattern. Taking a break can help because it gets you out of your old bad habits that are causing the wall, but putting 100% of your effort into finding out what those bad habits are can be effective too.

Edit: Just a tip: Most common cause of speed wall is insufficient mouse accuracy. A misclick ruins your rhythm, you want to be able to click the right spot with 100% confidence at your playing speed.
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