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rredtooth
Profile Blog Joined December 2008
5464 Posts
January 28 2009 04:28 GMT
#61
If you get cheesed so often... shouldn't you be better at defending it?
And seriously, what good does this post do anyways?
Just work harder and get better. Or quit.
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Zozma
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
United States1626 Posts
January 28 2009 04:46 GMT
#62
On January 28 2009 13:01 Djabanete wrote:
I sometimes wonder how high a rank someone like Bisu or Stork could get if they started a new account and just 2-gated every single time, every matchup, every map, no matter what.
They wouldn't necessarily always win with the 2-gate rush, but even if it failed they could probably win the game anyway up into even the middle B ranks. That's what I would say, anyway.
Dromar
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States2145 Posts
January 28 2009 04:53 GMT
#63
On January 28 2009 08:43 FREEloss_ca wrote:
People cheese repeatedly simply because they're stat whores. They'll farm as many wins as they can with cheese builds to increase the size of their Bnet-peen (ie. their ICCUP rank).

But the timeless saying still follows: "Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice....uhh

Well the point is you can't get fooled. Some people won't even re because they know you'll be prepared for their cheese the second game. Basically those players aren't going anywhere BW wise and eventually you'll grow as a player and be able to handle cheese strats far better and eventually find yourself at a rank where you'll only be cheesed a respectable amount of times.



This is sad but true. The ones who do re are awesome though IMO. Getting bunker rushed 5 times in a row is really valuable experience.

For the record, in my 66 games so far this season, I've cheesed twice (both 6pool ZvP, though whether or not that's cheese can be debated), and have been cheesed only 3 times (2 bunker rush, 1 cannon rush). All games at D level.
NotJumperer
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1371 Posts
January 28 2009 06:18 GMT
#64
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avilo
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States4100 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-01-28 08:15:35
January 28 2009 08:14 GMT
#65
every game for me at C is vs non-standard/cheese every time. Gets pretty annoying. what's up with 5pool/sunken whor3 on colloseum lol

i'd say iccup is not a good place to practice standard, it is good for anti-standard practice tho.
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jhNz
Profile Blog Joined September 2006
Germany2762 Posts
January 28 2009 08:19 GMT
#66
the most annoying thing is pvp on luna... almost every toss on iccup tries to cannonrush the main with two pylons blocking the cannons behind the minerals. thank god luna is a four player map and it works not all the time -.-
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Marve
Profile Joined September 2008
Norway10 Posts
January 28 2009 09:57 GMT
#67
I'm a zerg player, I don't really know what you consider as cheese, but out of the 30 games i've played on iccup, i'd say i've only been cheesed a couple of times.
One time with a bunker rush, and one time with a cannon rush.

One time when i was playing a protoss, and opted for a 12 hatch/11 pool opening, his scouting probe came and stole the gas both at my main and at my natural before my pool was finished.
I thought that was pretty cheesy, but i don't really know what he hoped to gain from it, as he was just fast expanding like most of the tosses do.

Also one terran tried to pull off some sort of 4-port mass wraiths, but it didn't do so well against against my hydra-heavy army.

sprawlers
Profile Joined June 2007
Norway439 Posts
January 28 2009 10:44 GMT
#68
How some of you manage to get cheesed just 3 of 66 games is sick. I love original or well-executed cheese, and get cheesed somewhat often at my ranks, I'm hovering betwen C and C-. I think I've been cheesed in 4 of my 6 last vT games. 2x bunkerrushes and two times proxyfactories at bluestorm, one being lifted into my main obviously.. one of those not cheeseing did a one base elevator strat ferrying into my main. I think it's fun.
EsX_Raptor
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States2802 Posts
January 28 2009 13:38 GMT
#69
To be honest, the players that have cheesed me the less have been zerg players.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26003 Posts
January 28 2009 13:49 GMT
#70
Play the game as it is, not as you imagine it to be.
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Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
January 28 2009 13:58 GMT
#71
On January 28 2009 22:49 Chill wrote:
Play the game as it is, not as you imagine it to be.


So true, people are too caught up in "the better player is the one who can macro better".
No I'm never serious.
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
January 28 2009 15:03 GMT
#72
On January 28 2009 18:57 Marve wrote:
I'm a zerg player, I don't really know what you consider as cheese, but out of the 30 games i've played on iccup, i'd say i've only been cheesed a couple of times.
One time with a bunker rush, and one time with a cannon rush.

One time when i was playing a protoss, and opted for a 12 hatch/11 pool opening, his scouting probe came and stole the gas both at my main and at my natural before my pool was finished.
I thought that was pretty cheesy, but i don't really know what he hoped to gain from it, as he was just fast expanding like most of the tosses do.

Also one terran tried to pull off some sort of 4-port mass wraiths, but it didn't do so well against against my hydra-heavy army.


lmfao 4-port wraiths
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