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United States24705 Posts
I've noticed a large number of posts recently where people have improperly or ineffectively quoted another user. This obviously doesn't apply to many of us who have no problem completing such a simple task. However, I feel it is my duty to teach those of us who don't yet understand it how they can quote someone so that it isn't confusing, and so that the post isn't flooded with broken code.
Quote type 1: Responding to a prior post in the same thread.
So you were reading a thread, and you want to reply directly to a comment someone else read. Follow these simple steps:
1) Check to see if the post you are responding to is the last post in the thread. If yes, then you can get away with replying without quoting (but make sure after you submit to check that nobody posted immediately before you... if that happens just edit your post and indicate at the top who the post is directed at i.e. @micronesia) but if no then click the 'quote' button at the top right of their post and continue to step two.
2) This brings you to a page where you can write your reply. Do not touch the code that is already there. Start your response below the code. It is really very simple! Some people play games where they edit what is inside the quote to make a point or as a joke, but definitely don't do that if you are going to make a mistake and mess up the code (it's usually lame to do it anyway).
3) Click reply. Even if someone ninja posted before you, your post will contain the quote you are replying to so it's clear where you are coming from.
Frequently asked question: Can't I just copy/paste the post directly from the thread into the reply box at the bottom?
answer: Technically you can do that and edit in the code yourself (if you know how to do that you don't need to guide at all) but you are better off not doing this because it won't always be clear where the quote came from (especially if it is back three pages in the thread).
Quote type 2: Responding to multiple posts at the same time.
You found more than one post you want to reply to in a thread.
Frequently asked question: Can I just use the quote button like explained above, and make a new post for each response?
answer: No you really shouldn't do that. Try to keep your reply to one post.
Follow these easy steps in order to create one all-inclusive post:
1) Open a new tab or browser, and visit the same thread with both. Using one browser, click the quote button on the first post you want to reply to. On the next page, copy or cut all of the text out of the box. Click back on your browser.
2) Go to your other tab, and paste the current text into the reply window at the bottom. Write your response directly under the text you just pasted in.
3) Return to the first tab, and click quote on the next post you want to reply to. Cut the text out of the box, and go back.
4) Repeat 2-3 until you have finished replying to everything. Then click 'Post'. Close one of the tabs, and continue browsing tl with the other one.
Summary
For the most part, quoting properly is very easy and I truly believe that it is within the capacity of every user of tl to do it properly. I write this not because most of my blog readers are in need of this lesson, but rather because we can point newbies who fail at quoting properly to this page to see the error of their ways. Good luck!
FAQ:
Right while I was posting somebody made a new post in the same thread. I want to reply to that post also. Am I better off just quoting it and creating a second consecutive post, or should I copy the text from quoting it, and then edit it into the bottom of my post?
answer: The lazy way is the former, but the better way is the latter. I am not sure what tl staff thinks about this issue so maybe they can point out their answer to this.
 
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On January 20 2009 07:26 micronesia wrote:
I've noticed a large number of posts recently where people have improperly or ineffectively quoted another user. This obviously doesn't apply to many of us who have no problem completing such a simple task. However, I feel it is my duty to teach those of us who don't yet understand it how they can quote someone so that it isn't confusing, and so that the post isn't flooded with broken code.
Quote type 1: Responding to a prior post in the same thread.
So you were reading a thread, and you want to reply directly to a comment someone else read. Follow these simple steps:
1) Check to see if the post you are responding to is the last post in the thread. If yes, then you can get away with replying without quoting (but make sure after you submit to check that nobody posted immediately before you... if that happens just edit your post and indicate at the top who the post is directed at i.e. @micronesia) but if no then click the 'quote' button at the top right of their post and continue to step two.
dude wtf is this politeness
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On January 20 2009 07:26 micronesia wrote:
Quote type 2: Responding to multiple posts at the same time.
You found more than one post you want to reply to in a thread.
Frequently asked question: Can I just use the quote button like explained above, and make a new post for each response?
answer: No you really shouldn't do that. Try to keep your reply to one post.
Follow these easy steps in order to create one all-inclusive post:
1) Open a new tab or browser, and visit the same thread with both. Using one browser, click the quote button on the first post you want to reply to. On the next page, copy or cut all of the text out of the box. Click back on your browser.
2) Go to your other tab, and paste the current text into the reply window at the bottom. Write your response directly under the text you just pasted in.
3) Return to the first tab, and click quote on the next post you want to reply to. Cut the text out of the box, and go back.
4) Repeat 2-3 until you have finished replying to everything. Then click 'Post'. Close one of the tabs, and continue browsing tl with the other one.
but its such a pain in the ass to do
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United States24705 Posts
Caller if you beat me in broodwar then you can violate my blog.
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Come now. You make a post about quoting and how you shouldn't manipulate other's words, and there's not even a mention of THE BEAR??
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On January 20 2009 07:30 micronesia wrote:
Caller if you beat me in broodwar then you can violate my blog.
i did beat you that one time but you drophacked me
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I only rarely see people having problems with quoting, but I guess it could be useful anyway. The main problem is that the people who actually need help with quoting will probably never even read this thread.
+ Show Spoiler +[QUOTE]On January 20 2009 07:26 micronesia wrote:
2) This brings you to a page where you can write your reply. Do not touch the code that is already there. Start your response below the code. It is really very simple! Some people play games where they edit what is inside the quote to make a point or as a joke, but definitely don't do that if you are going to make a mistake and mess up the code (it's usually aWesum to do it anyway).
/QUOTE]
Edit: Just wondering, Micronesia what is your iccup rank?
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United States24705 Posts
Didn't you hear chill in the last stream? I'm the worst protoss in the history of tl.
And like I said in the OP, the people who need this won't necessarily find it, but can be pointed to it.
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I can't believe people have a problem doing this...
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awesome guide, read again! i vote for TLFE
ok enough of the jokes, but
thx for the multiple quiote :D i didn't know how to do that
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woah this is way too complicated. micronesia explain more in depth plz
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thanks for the guide, 5/5 cause now maybe i wont see people mess up as often but it took me like my 4th or 5th post to figure it all out by myself.
EDIT: ehhh? i dont see why someone voted it 1 star... some people who rate blogs are complete assholes -_-
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On January 20 2009 07:30 micronesia wrote:
Caller if you beat me in broodwar then you can violate my blog.
OOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo
SCC-Micronesia vs SCC-Caller showmatch time!
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 08:04 Grobyc wrote:
thanks for the guide, 5/5 cause now maybe i wont see people mess up as often but it took me like my 4th or 5th post to figure it all out by myself.
EDIT: ehhh? i dont see why someone voted it 1 star... some people who rate blogs are complete assholes -_-
Virtually every single blog I've written (and many other people) get at least one 1.
On January 20 2009 08:29 Jonoman92 wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 07:30 micronesia wrote:
Caller if you beat me in broodwar then you can violate my blog. OOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SCC-Micronesia vs SCC-Caller showmatch time!
You mean showrape.
BTW I used my quoting technique to make this post XD
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Thanks for the effort. Really, thank you. However, I just can't understand why anyone would really have any use for this info, I thought it was just how it worked o_O
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 08:36 LordWeird wrote:
Thanks for the effort. Really, thank you. However, I just can't understand why anyone would really have any use for this info, I thought it was just how it worked o_O
I have seen several cases of people quoting incorrectly in the past few days. I agree with you... I don't know why they have so much difficulty... but they are not doing it correctly. Hopefully pointing them to this thread will remind them or show them how to quote correctly.
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I always knew you were a drophacker acg
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Back to number one blogger, eh?
=]
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On January 20 2009 07:26 micronesia wrote:
2) This brings you to a page where you can write your reply. Do not touch the code that is already there. Start your response below the code. It is really very simple! Some people play games where they edit what is inside the quote to make a point or as a joke, but definitely don't do that if you are going to make a mistake and mess up the code (it's usually lame to do it anyway).
I disagree. There can be many reasons to edit what is already there. E.g. you might want to excise the parts that aren't relevant or bold a part of the quote that you want to emphasize.
Frankly this blog seems like much ado about nothing to me.
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 09:12 qrs wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 07:26 micronesia wrote:
2) This brings you to a page where you can write your reply. Do not touch the code that is already there. Start your response below the code. It is really very simple! Some people play games where they edit what is inside the quote to make a point or as a joke, but definitely don't do that if you are going to make a mistake and mess up the code (it's usually lame to do it anyway). I disagree. There can be many reasons to edit what is already there. E.g. you might want to excise the parts that aren't relevant or bold a part of the quote that you want to emphasize. You are right. However, the people who need this blog will probably screw that up.
Frankly this blog seems like much ado about nothing to me. Then what about all those cases of people quoting incorrectly? I'm getting tired of it and this way at least I can point them to this. And also, some people actually might benefit from the method I offered for quoting multiple posts at once. It's nothing special, but it might not have occurred to someone before.
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Notepad.
Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._.
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On January 20 2009 09:01 raiame wrote:
Back to number one blogger, eh?
=]
On January 20 2009 08:34 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 08:04 Grobyc wrote:
thanks for the guide, 5/5 cause now maybe i wont see people mess up as often but it took me like my 4th or 5th post to figure it all out by myself.
EDIT: ehhh? i dont see why someone voted it 1 star... some people who rate blogs are complete assholes -_- Virtually every single blog I've written (and many other people) get at least one 1. Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 08:29 Jonoman92 wrote:On January 20 2009 07:30 micronesia wrote:
Caller if you beat me in broodwar then you can violate my blog. OOooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo SCC-Micronesia vs SCC-Caller showmatch time! You mean showrape. BTW I used my quoting technique to make this post XD
ooo yeah, someone must be competing for your #1 blogger spot haha
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United States17042 Posts
On January 20 2009 10:03 micronesia wrote:Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._.
or msword/ something with a spellchecker and grammar checker. That would also improve the post quality of everyone else at the same time
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 10:42 GHOSTCLAW wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 10:03 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Notepad. Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._. or msword/ something with a spellchecker and grammar checker. That would also improve the post quality of everyone else at the same time
I spell-check using firefox but yeah that's a good idea in general.
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On January 20 2009 10:43 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 10:42 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On January 20 2009 10:03 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Notepad. Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._. or msword/ something with a spellchecker and grammar checker. That would also improve the post quality of everyone else at the same time I spell-check using firefox but yeah that's a good idea in general.
Meh, fuck spell check, I any word I use I know 100% how to spell it and if I don't know I won't use it or I will google it, and if it is a typo idc really. It is only in a forum on a website. Nothing big... now if I was getting marked for it.. :O
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 10:54 Grobyc wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 10:43 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:42 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On January 20 2009 10:03 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Notepad. Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._. or msword/ something with a spellchecker and grammar checker. That would also improve the post quality of everyone else at the same time I spell-check using firefox but yeah that's a good idea in general. Meh, fuck spell check, I any word I use I know 100% how to spell it and if I don't know I won't use it or I will google it, and if it is a typo idc really. It is only in a forum on a website. Nothing big... now if I was getting marked for it.. :O
I am a decent speller and I find it comes in handy all the time.
Typos...
Atypical word usages that you aren't sure on...
I mean it just underlines the errors so it's no big deal to have it on all the time.
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On January 20 2009 11:20 micronesia wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 10:54 Grobyc wrote:On January 20 2009 10:43 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:42 GHOSTCLAW wrote:On January 20 2009 10:03 micronesia wrote:On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Notepad. Ah yeah this is a good alternative to some of the things I said. You can paste each body of text into notepad. It's also smart to write a long post in notepad prior to submitting it in case your text gets lost in your internet browser ._. or msword/ something with a spellchecker and grammar checker. That would also improve the post quality of everyone else at the same time I spell-check using firefox but yeah that's a good idea in general. Meh, fuck spell check, I any word I use I know 100% how to spell it and if I don't know I won't use it or I will google it, and if it is a typo idc really. It is only in a forum on a website. Nothing big... now if I was getting marked for it.. :O I am a decent speller and I find it comes in handy all the time. Typos... Atypical word usages that you aren't sure on... I mean it just underlines the errors so it's no big deal to have it on all the time.
Yes that is true. Although I find it kind of annoying when I see a word that is apparently spelled wrong (i have spell check built into my firefox too apparently) I look back and the word underlined is "zergling", "starcraft" "iloveoov", etc it is just kind of annoying 
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United States24705 Posts
That doesn't bug me at all haha. See, it just underlined haha.
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uh i dont know if you noticed, but u just replied to people directly above you using a quote despite what u said in your very first point about not having to quote someone directly above you 
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United States24705 Posts
On January 20 2009 12:29 Bond(i2) wrote:uh i dont know if you noticed, but u just replied to people directly above you using a quote despite what u said in your very first point about not having to quote someone directly above you
I actually prefer when people do quote because it makes it easier to find the post in search... but it's no big deal either way.
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Netherlands19135 Posts
On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Multiplayer Notepad. aka IRC
Fixed
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Netherlands19135 Posts
wow delayed double post WICKED SICK ZING ZING SKEET SKEET
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United States3824 Posts
I want to be one of a few people under the 1000 post mark that are replying to you blog. so um.. nice blog.
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I don't think ignorance or incompetence is the problem.
People just don't care enough to be bothered to do it properly. I don't mind rly...
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On January 20 2009 16:04 Nyovne wrote:Show nested quote +On January 20 2009 10:02 HeadBangaa wrote:
Real men use Multiplayer Notepad. aka IRC Fixed
who do you think you are editing my posts? you've forced me to send The Bear after you.
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