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sprawlers
Norway439 Posts
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ams1
United States2 Posts
That is not necessarily true (indirectly)... Do some research about the current state of medicine. It is not exactly in shambles, but it is not even close to the glory days of the past when cardiothoracic surgeons made millions performing CABGs (just an example). For starters, you can start with the current state of primary care... This post may not help you understand what it is like currently in the world of medicine and that is because I don't even know where to begin. By no means am I trying to discourage you from pursuing the path to becoming a physician. I'm just saying be careful of the stuff you parents feed you about being a doctor. I think I can safely say, asian parents (unless they are physicians employed in the states) are incredibly ignorant about the current state of medicine. Having that said, no one really knows what the future holds for medicine (you can probably say that about other occupations as well). For example, anesthegiology was one of the easiest to match into for residency and looked down upon in medicine but now... it's one of the most difficult to match into. Needless to say, it is a lucrative field in medicine and the hours and lifestyle are friendlier than most of the fields in medicine. Edit: Okay, I realized that was a bad example. What I really was trying to hit home here was, medicine isn't doing so hot right now. Now some may argue that the grass is greener on the other side, but after investing 4 years of medical school, x number of years of residency (depends on which residency) and fellowship (if you choose to), an amazing amount of debt, crappy pay as resident and/or fellow... well, I hope you get the point. But because there is so much government intervention and politics involved in medicine right now, how medicine (in general) will do a few years from now, no one really knows. You better know this is your calling. | ||
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
To be honest i have no idea what im interested in as of now, i enjoy science especially chemistry/biology, but going to school for that long don't appeal to me, and makes me lose interest in that job... | ||
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ams1
United States2 Posts
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TheFlashyOne
Canada450 Posts
So everything must be revolving around marks. Yet you dont mention them at all in your OP. If you do get high grades, what can your parents say? Also..talk to your parents..not your friends..confront the source of the problem and ask them concretely how high they want you to score and you'll agree with them whether it's realistic or not. You wont score necessarily higher if you study 7 to 12 hours a day. Especially in high school. You'll be braindead by then and wont feel like learning anything more. ..what you need to do is to study your ass off in a reasonable and well-structured schedule. Work Hard, Play hard, keep a balance. P.S. being a doctor is the worst way to A. Make lots of money B. Be happy C. Have time freedom in your life. | ||
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ShaperofDreams
Canada2492 Posts
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YPang
United States4024 Posts
On January 17 2009 13:03 TheFlashyOne wrote: dude...if your parents are correctly assuming ( i hope) that you won't transform yourself into a thug life gangsta flashing triad gang signs and robbin' people left and right, then i suppose the sole purpose of their half-ass attempt at monitoring you is to force you to get high marks. (half-ass because lets face it...no one can be totally monitored into studying all day...you're not always home..and when you are , you can pretend that you're studying while in fact you're honing your Starcraft skills, just close your door..or use alt-tab) So everything must be revolving around marks. Yet you dont mention them at all in your OP. If you do get high grades, what can your parents say? Also..talk to your parents..not your friends..confront the source of the problem and ask them concretely how high they want you to score and you'll agree with them whether it's realistic or not. You wont score necessarily higher if you study 7 to 12 hours a day. Especially in high school. You'll be braindead by then and wont feel like learning anything more. ..what you need to do is to study your ass off in a reasonable and well-structured schedule. Work Hard, Play hard, keep a balance. P.S. being a doctor is the worst way to A. Make lots of money B. Be happy C. Have time freedom in your life. Lol, you actually hit me right on the nail, i do play starcraft whenever their not home, and the reason behind that is obviously i can't play it when they are home. However my grades are not as high as my parents would like them to be, i'm satisfied with it though. I usually get a little over 50% worth of A's. But meh, you have no idea how hard it is to convince asian parents of something, my parents ( prob shouldn't generalize a whole nation) are very narrow minded and won't take new suggestions unless they've been exposed to it for a LOONG time. I do study though only when i feel like it, i feel that all my parent's efforts in forcing me to study is not working, and i still do w/e i feel like basically. All they've done is limited the things that i can do in my free time ( some of them are hanging with friends and running track/cross country). | ||
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Kennelie
United States2296 Posts
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Ilvy
Germany2445 Posts
On January 17 2009 14:26 Kennelie wrote: OMFG YANG IM NOT EVEN GOING TO READ YOUR WORTHLESS BULLSHIT. I have better things to do in my time. Like fuck your mother.....I'll leave a map of hawaii on her jaw. It fits well. seems like you are a propper example where you could see parents failed to teach respect. Times changed a lot and it becaame more hard to find a perfect way to educate your kids. These days kids expect more freedom, the risk to get into drugs increased and ppl fall much faster into stupid things. Maybe i am just lucky but until now i do not have any problems with my sons, they follow the few rules we have and we have a very good relationship. One deal is "No drugs or heavy alc and smoking until 18 and we pay the driverslicense", worked for oldest, lets see what the rest does  .Anyway, i am happy to have male only since when i look at my friends girls it seem they have more trouble to make them following rules :D, but every person is different and there is no general way how to grow perfect successfull humans | ||
Plexa
Aotearoa39261 Posts
On January 17 2009 21:14 Ilvy wrote: exactly right seems like you are a propper example where you could see parents failed to teach respect. Times changed a lot and it becaame more hard to find a perfect way to educate your kids. These days kids expect more freedom, the risk to get into drugs increased and ppl fall much faster into stupid things. Maybe i am just lucky but until now i do not have any problems with my sons, they follow the few rules we have and we have a very good relationship. One deal is "No drugs or heavy alc and smoking until 18 and we pay the driverslicense", worked for oldest, lets see what the rest does .Anyway, i am happy to have male only since when i look at my friends girls it seem they have more trouble to make them following rules :D, but every person is different and there is no general way how to grow perfect successfull humans  | ||
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Ilikestarcraft
Korea (South)17735 Posts
On January 17 2009 10:43 Chill wrote: Be careful when you get your freedom. These are usually the people who can't handle alcohol, or drugs, or boundryless life in general. Baby steps Thats excatly what i was thinking | ||
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Vivi57
United States6599 Posts
On January 17 2009 13:12 YPang wrote: Lol, you actually hit me right on the nail, i do play starcraft whenever their not home, and the reason behind that is obviously i can't play it when they are home. However my grades are not as high as my parents would like them to be, i'm satisfied with it though. I usually get a little over 50% worth of A's. But meh, you have no idea how hard it is to convince asian parents of something, my parents ( prob shouldn't generalize a whole nation) are very narrow minded and won't take new suggestions unless they've been exposed to it for a LOONG time. I do study though only when i feel like it, i feel that all my parent's efforts in forcing me to study is not working, and i still do w/e i feel like basically. All they've done is limited the things that i can do in my free time ( some of them are hanging with friends and running track/cross country). Honestly, this is the exact problem with a strict parenting style. The kids grow up and live with the mindset, "how can I get away with this" and "will I get yelled at for doing this?" With that mindset, you never learn how to actually live and manage responsibility. Those are the kids who fail out of college quickly. They do what they've always done. "Will I get yelled at for skipping class?" Answer: no. In their experience this yields the best case result so it is the right decision. Honestly, that attitude teaches kids nothing about life, just how to cheat the system and not get yelled at. Their primary goal in highschool isn't to be successful, it's to not get yelled at. | ||
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Luddite
United States2315 Posts
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