• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 06:13
CET 12:13
KST 20:13
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners10Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting12[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11
Community News
StarCraft, SC2, HotS, WC3, Returning to Blizzcon!33$5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship6[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage4Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win10
StarCraft 2
General
TL.net Map Contest #21: Winners Mech is the composition that needs teleportation t Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" 5.0.15 Patch Balance Hotfix (2025-10-8)
Tourneys
Constellation Cup - Main Event - Stellar Fest $5,000+ WardiTV 2025 Championship Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
[ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ SnOw's ASL S20 Finals Review
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues [ASL20] Grand Finals [BSL21] RO32 Group B - Sunday 21:00 CET [BSL21] RO32 Group A - Saturday 21:00 CET
Strategy
Current Meta PvZ map balance How to stay on top of macro? Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Should offensive tower rushing be viable in RTS games? Dawn of War IV
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread Dating: How's your luck?
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Coffee x Performance in Espo…
TrAiDoS
Saturation point
Uldridge
DnB/metal remix FFO Mick Go…
ImbaTosS
Why we need SC3
Hildegard
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Our Last Hope in th…
KrillinFromwales
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1480 users

Old School

Blogs > nAi.PrOtOsS
Post a Reply
1 2 Next All
nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
December 26 2008 18:45 GMT
#1
How old of a starcraft player do you have to be to be considered old school?

[image loading]

Poll: Are you old school?
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing for a long time.
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing since start of Bnet.
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing since start of PGT
(Vote): Whats considered old school?
(Vote): No, I just started.
(Vote): No I have been only playing for 4 years.
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I am semi-progamer



***
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17731 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 18:56:03
December 26 2008 18:51 GMT
#2
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 26 2008 18:51 GMT
#3
5 years, next month, I said no 4 years though.
aka Lyra; My favourites: July, Stork, Draco, MistrZZZ, TheStc, LastShadow - www.broodwarmaps.net - for all your mapping needs; check my stream: high masters mech terran: twitch.tv/lyrathegreat
fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 26 2008 19:10 GMT
#4
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total
SKT_Best: "I actually chose Protoss because it was so hard for me to defeat Protoss as a Terran. When I first started Brood War, my main race was Terran."
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 26 2008 19:20 GMT
#5
I bought starcraft the first day it came out in 1998. I have played it off and on since then, being most active within the last 3years. I do remember all of the different phases the game went through, and the various top players that have come and gone. Ladder challenges was the place to be lol.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 26 2008 19:21 GMT
#6
i have played since release (but didn't start playing melee until 2003). i have been following progaming from its beginning as well, so that dates back to around 2000?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 26 2008 19:22 GMT
#7
wtf the question and the poll answers dont match at all >_>
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
December 26 2008 19:23 GMT
#8
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
December 26 2008 19:29 GMT
#9
I Play this game for about 1.5 years.
3 maybe 4 months for-real, playing iccup really trying to improve before that i just played ums =)

Voted for I just started as 1~ year is not that much I guess.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 26 2008 19:34 GMT
#10
It was around this month(a year ago). I had $20 and i found about sc from a computer security forum. They were excited about the announcement of starcraft 2. At that time I wanted to play starcraft 2 but I knew they were working on it.

Of course, I started looking up reviews on starcraft 1 and they were great. So I decided to buy it and it was a totally different experience from anything I had ever played. I only played rpg,shooter,adventure, but the first rts was starcraft.

So yeah I think this month is my one year anniversary(lol) with starcraft so im not old school.
"The man who removes a mountain begins by carrying away small stones."-William Faulkner *_*_*_Kolll FAN_*_*_*
eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 26 2008 19:40 GMT
#11
On December 27 2008 04:23 Phrogs! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)


Yeah I bet it would be different coming into the game after its already been balanced perfectly, and the metagame has been ironed out enough for people to mass practice. The game has come soo far with balancing, its not really the same game it started out as soo long ago. I remember when players from x17 or ladder challenges first started playing koreans as the game was released over there. Many were just plain stumped as to how they were losing. It was a fun and exciting time. I remember visiting a few amazing websites back then, my favorites being

www.icantwin.com
www.montaro.org
www.starcraft.org
www.broodwar.org
www.taofogaming.com

These sites were amazing at the time, and provided some of the earliest multiplayer content worthy of reading. Replays were non-existant, and would not come for a few more years. The game had much more mystery to it, because unless you actually played with the top players (INAgent911, Pillars, TillerMaN, Grrrr, Zileas, Montaro, D22-SoSo, D23-Gad, Kain-the-feared, Maynard and many more) you wouldn't really know how the game was played at that level. It made for more desire to achieve a higher level of skill, just so you could play with these players.

Ive always been curious to know what some of those really old school players are doing, and if they know how far starcraft has truely come. Players like D22-SoSo who dominated the game for a short time when it was first released, and then quit very early on. He missed out on 9 years of starcraft and all of the competitions and progress it has made. I wonder if they have ever come back, and given it another shot? Just doesnt seem right to have quit a year or 2 after it was released, and miss out on all that was to come.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
December 26 2008 19:45 GMT
#12
since 1999, start, and since 2006 competitively. I'm terribly awful though.
AKA SurfSolar ----- This is the product of a DIY inadequate home
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
December 26 2008 19:59 GMT
#13
On December 27 2008 04:40 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 04:23 Phrogs! wrote:
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)


Yeah I bet it would be different coming into the game after its already been balanced perfectly, and the metagame has been ironed out enough for people to mass practice. The game has come soo far with balancing, its not really the same game it started out as soo long ago. I remember when players from x17 or ladder challenges first started playing koreans as the game was released over there. Many were just plain stumped as to how they were losing. It was a fun and exciting time. I remember visiting a few amazing websites back then, my favorites being

www.icantwin.com
www.montaro.org
www.starcraft.org
www.broodwar.org
www.taofogaming.com

These sites were amazing at the time, and provided some of the earliest multiplayer content worthy of reading. Replays were non-existant, and would not come for a few more years. The game had much more mystery to it, because unless you actually played with the top players (INAgent911, Pillars, TillerMaN, Grrrr, Zileas, Montaro, D22-SoSo, D23-Gad, Kain-the-feared, Maynard and many more) you wouldn't really know how the game was played at that level. It made for more desire to achieve a higher level of skill, just so you could play with these players.

Ive always been curious to know what some of those really old school players are doing, and if they know how far starcraft has truely come. Players like D22-SoSo who dominated the game for a short time when it was first released, and then quit very early on. He missed out on 9 years of starcraft and all of the competitions and progress it has made. I wonder if they have ever come back, and given it another shot? Just doesnt seem right to have quit a year or 2 after it was released, and miss out on all that was to come.


Very interesting, thank you. I can't imagine what it must have been like playing in the beginning during balancing... "Is my clever timing attack going to be screwed if they change the cost of xyz in the next balancing patch?"

I can't say I envy you -- coming into a finished game you know won't be altered feels more stable.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 20:17:23
December 26 2008 20:16 GMT
#14
Bought sc like in 2000, playing melee since late-2004, following progaming since 2006 shinhan-2 osl i think.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 26 2008 20:20 GMT
#15
I've been playing since '99.
CJ Entusman #6! · Strength is the basis of athletic ability. -Rippetoe /* http://j.mp/TL-App <- TL iPhone App 2.0! */
DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
December 26 2008 20:45 GMT
#16
My first experience of SC was actually Starcraft64... now that I think about it shit was damn near impossible to micro with a controller.

That was about 2002, so I had to buy the pc version, the 64 version got me hooked. I played campaign a lot and eventually discovered battle.net. From there I played a lot of fastest and zero clutter and some ums. About 1.5-2 years ago is when I started concentrating on playing low-money and got into the pro scene. Finally about a year ago is when I got into iccup and really improving.
pimptoss
Profile Joined December 2008
United States6 Posts
December 26 2008 21:02 GMT
#17
2001 for me
l e m a j
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 26 2008 21:12 GMT
#18
melee since 2007.
ums from 2002-2004 ish
quit sc, then came back
#1 Sea.Really Fan / #1 Nesh Fan / Terran Forever~
MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 26 2008 21:16 GMT
#19
5+ years = old school for me.

ah and hi toss
https://www.twitch.tv/MasterReY/ ~ Biggest Reach fan on TL.net (Don't even dare to mention LR now) ~ R.I.P Violet ~ Developer of SCRChart
TL+ Member
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 26 2008 21:19 GMT
#20
i have played since release but didn't start playing melee until 2005ish.
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
1 2 Next All
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
CranKy Ducklings
10:00
Sea Duckling Open #140
CranKy Ducklings78
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
ProTech134
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 7230
Horang2 3257
GuemChi 1799
Jaedong 809
Larva 545
actioN 404
Soma 296
Stork 219
Hyun 199
BeSt 179
[ Show more ]
Mini 161
Killer 137
EffOrt 98
ToSsGirL 87
Backho 64
Rush 49
Mind 44
Sharp 42
PianO 36
NaDa 24
Bale 16
soO 13
Icarus 12
Sacsri 10
HiyA 7
sorry 7
Dota 2
Gorgc2618
singsing701
XcaliburYe280
Counter-Strike
fl0m2125
zeus169
edward22
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor145
Other Games
summit1g16014
Sick253
XaKoH 125
B2W.Neo24
nookyyy 23
MindelVK19
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL135
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 15 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH133
• StrangeGG 51
• LUISG 28
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Jankos2805
• Stunt1061
Upcoming Events
IPSL
6h 47m
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
LAN Event
6h 47m
Lambo vs Clem
Scarlett vs TriGGeR
ByuN vs TBD
Zoun vs TBD
BSL 21
8h 47m
Gosudark vs Kyrie
Gypsy vs OyAji
UltrA vs Radley
Dandy vs Ptak
Replay Cast
11h 47m
Sparkling Tuna Cup
22h 47m
WardiTV Korean Royale
1d
LAN Event
1d 3h
IPSL
1d 6h
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
BSL 21
1d 8h
spx vs rasowy
HBO vs KameZerg
Cross vs Razz
dxtr13 vs ZZZero
Replay Cast
1d 21h
[ Show More ]
Wardi Open
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Kung Fu Cup
4 days
Classic vs Solar
herO vs Cure
Reynor vs GuMiho
ByuN vs ShoWTimE
Tenacious Turtle Tussle
4 days
The PondCast
4 days
RSL Revival
4 days
Solar vs Zoun
MaxPax vs Bunny
Kung Fu Cup
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
5 days
RSL Revival
5 days
Classic vs Creator
Cure vs TriGGeR
Kung Fu Cup
6 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
RSL Revival
6 days
herO vs Gerald
ByuN vs SHIN
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
BSL Season 21
Stellar Fest: Constellation Cup
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual

Upcoming

SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.