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nAi.PrOtOsS
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Canada784 Posts
December 26 2008 18:45 GMT
#1
How old of a starcraft player do you have to be to be considered old school?

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Poll: Are you old school?
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing for a long time.
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing since start of Bnet.
(Vote): Yes, I have been playing since start of PGT
(Vote): Whats considered old school?
(Vote): No, I just started.
(Vote): No I have been only playing for 4 years.
(Vote): Yes
(Vote): No
(Vote): I am semi-progamer



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Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17733 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 18:56:03
December 26 2008 18:51 GMT
#2
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever
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Nightmarjoo
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
United States3360 Posts
December 26 2008 18:51 GMT
#3
5 years, next month, I said no 4 years though.
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fusionsdf
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
Canada15390 Posts
December 26 2008 19:10 GMT
#4
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 26 2008 19:20 GMT
#5
I bought starcraft the first day it came out in 1998. I have played it off and on since then, being most active within the last 3years. I do remember all of the different phases the game went through, and the various top players that have come and gone. Ladder challenges was the place to be lol.
OneOther
Profile Blog Joined August 2004
United States10774 Posts
December 26 2008 19:21 GMT
#6
i have played since release (but didn't start playing melee until 2003). i have been following progaming from its beginning as well, so that dates back to around 2000?
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
December 26 2008 19:22 GMT
#7
wtf the question and the poll answers dont match at all >_>
Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
December 26 2008 19:23 GMT
#8
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)
Ziph
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Netherlands970 Posts
December 26 2008 19:29 GMT
#9
I Play this game for about 1.5 years.
3 maybe 4 months for-real, playing iccup really trying to improve before that i just played ums =)

Voted for I just started as 1~ year is not that much I guess.
Starcraft 2 - Beta
ilistis
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
United States828 Posts
December 26 2008 19:34 GMT
#10
It was around this month(a year ago). I had $20 and i found about sc from a computer security forum. They were excited about the announcement of starcraft 2. At that time I wanted to play starcraft 2 but I knew they were working on it.

Of course, I started looking up reviews on starcraft 1 and they were great. So I decided to buy it and it was a totally different experience from anything I had ever played. I only played rpg,shooter,adventure, but the first rts was starcraft.

So yeah I think this month is my one year anniversary(lol) with starcraft so im not old school.
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eXigent.
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Canada2419 Posts
December 26 2008 19:40 GMT
#11
On December 27 2008 04:23 Phrogs! wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)


Yeah I bet it would be different coming into the game after its already been balanced perfectly, and the metagame has been ironed out enough for people to mass practice. The game has come soo far with balancing, its not really the same game it started out as soo long ago. I remember when players from x17 or ladder challenges first started playing koreans as the game was released over there. Many were just plain stumped as to how they were losing. It was a fun and exciting time. I remember visiting a few amazing websites back then, my favorites being

www.icantwin.com
www.montaro.org
www.starcraft.org
www.broodwar.org
www.taofogaming.com

These sites were amazing at the time, and provided some of the earliest multiplayer content worthy of reading. Replays were non-existant, and would not come for a few more years. The game had much more mystery to it, because unless you actually played with the top players (INAgent911, Pillars, TillerMaN, Grrrr, Zileas, Montaro, D22-SoSo, D23-Gad, Kain-the-feared, Maynard and many more) you wouldn't really know how the game was played at that level. It made for more desire to achieve a higher level of skill, just so you could play with these players.

Ive always been curious to know what some of those really old school players are doing, and if they know how far starcraft has truely come. Players like D22-SoSo who dominated the game for a short time when it was first released, and then quit very early on. He missed out on 9 years of starcraft and all of the competitions and progress it has made. I wonder if they have ever come back, and given it another shot? Just doesnt seem right to have quit a year or 2 after it was released, and miss out on all that was to come.
LightRailCoyote
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States982 Posts
December 26 2008 19:45 GMT
#12
since 1999, start, and since 2006 competitively. I'm terribly awful though.
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Phrogs!
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Japan521 Posts
December 26 2008 19:59 GMT
#13
On December 27 2008 04:40 eXigent. wrote:
Show nested quote +
On December 27 2008 04:23 Phrogs! wrote:
On December 27 2008 03:51 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
Hmm i consider myself middle school
Im not old school as in like started playing like 1998 but i dont consider myself new school.
I first played campaign i think around fall 2002 or something but really got into sc and the proscene around fall 2004. During ever


On December 27 2008 04:10 fusionsdf wrote:
umm

about a year competitively
about 2 to 2+1/2 years in total


Heh. So interesting to me as a person who's very new to the game and bought it with foreknowledge of (and because of) it's highly competetive scene. Hell, I've never played the campaign.

I voted "No, I've only just started", I've been playing only a few months.

I almost regret missing old school awesome VODs (and I'm looking forward to Old VOD Night), but the modern very mechanical style is what drew me in and amazes me. (Like how deep positional moves in chess are as amazing as queen sacs just not as extravagent)


Yeah I bet it would be different coming into the game after its already been balanced perfectly, and the metagame has been ironed out enough for people to mass practice. The game has come soo far with balancing, its not really the same game it started out as soo long ago. I remember when players from x17 or ladder challenges first started playing koreans as the game was released over there. Many were just plain stumped as to how they were losing. It was a fun and exciting time. I remember visiting a few amazing websites back then, my favorites being

www.icantwin.com
www.montaro.org
www.starcraft.org
www.broodwar.org
www.taofogaming.com

These sites were amazing at the time, and provided some of the earliest multiplayer content worthy of reading. Replays were non-existant, and would not come for a few more years. The game had much more mystery to it, because unless you actually played with the top players (INAgent911, Pillars, TillerMaN, Grrrr, Zileas, Montaro, D22-SoSo, D23-Gad, Kain-the-feared, Maynard and many more) you wouldn't really know how the game was played at that level. It made for more desire to achieve a higher level of skill, just so you could play with these players.

Ive always been curious to know what some of those really old school players are doing, and if they know how far starcraft has truely come. Players like D22-SoSo who dominated the game for a short time when it was first released, and then quit very early on. He missed out on 9 years of starcraft and all of the competitions and progress it has made. I wonder if they have ever come back, and given it another shot? Just doesnt seem right to have quit a year or 2 after it was released, and miss out on all that was to come.


Very interesting, thank you. I can't imagine what it must have been like playing in the beginning during balancing... "Is my clever timing attack going to be screwed if they change the cost of xyz in the next balancing patch?"

I can't say I envy you -- coming into a finished game you know won't be altered feels more stable.
Hyperionnn
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Turkey4968 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-12-26 20:17:23
December 26 2008 20:16 GMT
#14
Bought sc like in 2000, playing melee since late-2004, following progaming since 2006 shinhan-2 osl i think.
funkie
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Venezuela9376 Posts
December 26 2008 20:20 GMT
#15
I've been playing since '99.
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DeathByMonkeys
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States742 Posts
December 26 2008 20:45 GMT
#16
My first experience of SC was actually Starcraft64... now that I think about it shit was damn near impossible to micro with a controller.

That was about 2002, so I had to buy the pc version, the 64 version got me hooked. I played campaign a lot and eventually discovered battle.net. From there I played a lot of fastest and zero clutter and some ums. About 1.5-2 years ago is when I started concentrating on playing low-money and got into the pro scene. Finally about a year ago is when I got into iccup and really improving.
pimptoss
Profile Joined December 2008
United States6 Posts
December 26 2008 21:02 GMT
#17
2001 for me
l e m a j
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
December 26 2008 21:12 GMT
#18
melee since 2007.
ums from 2002-2004 ish
quit sc, then came back
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MasterReY
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Germany2708 Posts
December 26 2008 21:16 GMT
#19
5+ years = old school for me.

ah and hi toss
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ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
December 26 2008 21:19 GMT
#20
i have played since release but didn't start playing melee until 2005ish.
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