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kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
November 29 2008 10:27 GMT
#1
When I do nice/considerate things / help people for purely the sake of improving my karma?

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Multiply your efforts.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 29 2008 10:29 GMT
#2
yes

but not all selfishness is bad, dont ever be fooled into thinking that

... the reason though, karma... that's another can of worms i dont want to open
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 29 2008 10:30 GMT
#3
also you have an insane amount of blogs
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GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 29 2008 10:31 GMT
#4
No.

Although I suppose it depends on how you're going to define karma, because most of the response would hinge on it.
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
November 29 2008 10:37 GMT
#5
On November 29 2008 19:31 GHOSTCLAW wrote:
No.

Although I suppose it depends on how you're going to define karma, because most of the response would hinge on it.

how is it not selfish if he's doing it for his own sake
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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 29 2008 10:39 GMT
#6
Its a win-win isn't it? =)
We see things they'll never see
Liquid`Nazgul
Profile Blog Joined September 2002
22427 Posts
November 29 2008 10:39 GMT
#7
cause if you look at it like that every selfless act is selfish and the word selfless has no meaning anymore because it does not exist
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SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-29 10:40:34
November 29 2008 10:40 GMT
#8
On November 29 2008 19:39 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
cause if you look at it like that every selfless act is selfish and the word selfless has no meaning anymore because it does not exist

sounds kinda corny when i think about it, but theres a difference between doing it because it feels good and doing it because it feels right

former selfish, latter selfless

im not saying selfish is bad either..
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AcrossFiveJulys
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
United States3612 Posts
November 29 2008 10:40 GMT
#9
I would argue that every action you do is out of selfishness, so if you convince yourself that helping other people will help you the most, you are doing a good thing even if it's just to improve your karma.
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 29 2008 10:52 GMT
#10
No, it just makes you silly for referring to karma.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
November 29 2008 11:03 GMT
#11
Karma is just a word, in the illustrious words of the Matrix's Rama-Kandra. Here it is used in the meaning accorded to it not so much in Hindu tradition, but that meaning adopted for it by the West. It implies the circular nature of good and bad deeds in the West, easily understandable by the fact that others are more likely to share with us that which we share with them. If I steal from my neighbour, he has cause to want to steal from me in retribution. If I give my neighbour a gift, he has cause to again reciprocate, but by an act of similar kindness. I wouldn't call it a silly concept. It's really quite logical.
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niteReloaded
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Croatia5282 Posts
November 29 2008 13:22 GMT
#12
There is no good or bad.

On November 29 2008 19:40 SpiritoftheTunA wrote:
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On November 29 2008 19:39 Liquid`Nazgul wrote:
cause if you look at it like that every selfless act is selfish and the word selfless has no meaning anymore because it does not exist

sounds kinda corny when i think about it, but theres a difference between doing it because it feels good and doing it because it feels right

former selfish, latter selfless

im not saying selfish is bad either..

Doing something because it feels right (when it doesn't feel good) is wrong IMO. Because you still do it for SOME reason. To be perceived as a good guy? lame...
HeadBangaa
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
United States6512 Posts
November 29 2008 15:05 GMT
#13
On November 29 2008 20:03 jgad wrote:
Karma is just a word, in the illustrious words of the Matrix's Rama-Kandra. Here it is used in the meaning accorded to it not so much in Hindu tradition, but that meaning adopted for it by the West. It implies the circular nature of good and bad deeds in the West, easily understandable by the fact that others are more likely to share with us that which we share with them. If I steal from my neighbour, he has cause to want to steal from me in retribution. If I give my neighbour a gift, he has cause to again reciprocate, but by an act of similar kindness. I wouldn't call it a silly concept. It's really quite logical.

What you've described is the Golden Rule. The OP stated that he wants to improve some metaphysical score. That's more karma and less golden rule. But w/e.
People who fail to distinguish Socratic Method from malicious trolling are sadly stupid and not worth a response.
jgad
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Canada899 Posts
November 29 2008 15:11 GMT
#14
I suppose I mean to say that the metaphysical score is just a means to encourage people to follow said golden rule. Whatever your motivation, the outcome is the same. The metaphysical score simply makes the self-serving nature of altruism apparent.
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YPang
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States4024 Posts
November 29 2008 15:26 GMT
#15
I think everything we do is selfish one way or the other, but many of the things are unconscious.
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inReacH
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Sweden1612 Posts
November 29 2008 15:33 GMT
#16
you are talking about fallout 3 right?
SayaSP
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Laos5494 Posts
November 29 2008 16:01 GMT
#17
On November 30 2008 00:33 inReacH wrote:
you are talking about fallout 3 right?

.................. lol
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TimeShifter
Profile Joined October 2008
Singapore235 Posts
November 29 2008 16:16 GMT
#18
i suppose its sort of good if you be nice to people because you want to be nice rather than do it for the sake of karma..its not selfish..but its kind of..pathetic..?
no offense though..
strawberries~
MiniRoman
Profile Blog Joined September 2003
Canada3953 Posts
November 29 2008 16:25 GMT
#19
Doing things for others isnt selfish. Even if you think of yourself as useing them to get free karma, that's just you being crazy and brainwashed by video games, your still helping someone
Nak Allstar.
RaGe
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Belgium9947 Posts
November 29 2008 16:42 GMT
#20
altruism doesn't exist
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