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Tensai176
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
Canada2061 Posts
November 10 2008 07:34 GMT
#1
Let's give it up for the semi-cheesy build for Terran in TvP that lets me beat players waaaaaaaaaaay better than me. Currently 6-0 with the strat, beating D+ players left and right.

My BO:

9 supply
12 gas
12 rax
14-15 supply
19 - fact
22 or when scout leaves - 2nd fact
- add-on as soon as fac finishes,
- near constant rine production
- upgrade mine and start second add-on
- tank pops, another tank and a third tank on your 2nd fact
- once you get the 2nd tank push out with about 7rines 3-5 scvs 2 tanks,
1 tank on the way, upgrade vult speed and rally vults.
- MICROOOOOO

- By the time you reach his base, you have 3 tanks 7 rines 3-5 scvs with vult rally against 7 goons (2 gate).

- MICROOOOOOO, with vults, mine infront of his gates and rape probes. rally more vults and expand and beat players better than you XD.

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Watch the noobie two fact glory begin!




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Kami
Profile Joined July 2008
United States127 Posts
November 10 2008 08:04 GMT
#2
Watching the replay, i don't think your 2 fact was effective at all. I watched the 2 python replays and it seemed like you were able to capitalize on your opponent's mistakes. If they played like a D+/C- player, I don't think it'll be nearly as good.
ShadowDrgn
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
United States2497 Posts
November 10 2008 08:04 GMT
#3
Joyo beat you to this build by about 5 years.

I liked your vulture harass in the Blue Storm game, although I'm not convinced your opponents were better than you.
Of course, you only live one life, and you make all your mistakes, and learn what not to do, and that’s the end of you.
stenole
Profile Blog Joined April 2004
Norway869 Posts
November 10 2008 08:48 GMT
#4
Is the proper time to move out after the 2nd tank? I usually wait for my 3rd while having 5 marines and 1 SCV. I also tend to get my 1st fac a slight bit earlier. Now that I think about it, 2nd and 3rd tank pop out at almost the same time, so I guess there isn't much of a difference.
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
November 10 2008 08:55 GMT
#5
Wow, looks like Joyo. Why dont you just wait until you have around 5 tanks then push, it would be much much stronger ^^
But there is a reason why people not using it anymore. Players with decent goon micro, obviously not those here in your replay, can beat you with ease
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
Boblion
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
France8043 Posts
November 10 2008 09:07 GMT
#6
Two facts is for straight terran players.
Baller terrans use one fac / port.

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gays go one fact / expo
fuck all those elitists brb watching streams of elite players.
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
November 10 2008 09:49 GMT
#7
I 2fac any time I find myself playing a TvP, it works well vs D/D+ protoss because they're all so used to playing vs FD
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