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Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
November 05 2008 14:55 GMT
#1
Okay I said it I'm going to rickroll you here at the end but it's hilarious and the nerdiest rickroll I've ever seen. Okay fine I'll get it out of the way



Seriously watch it you'll lol

Anyways I'm sitting in a computer lab before work killing time and annoyed at McCain for conceding too early. Okay lets get this straight, I'm an independant. I voted for Obama yes I"m glad he conceded to avoid all the recount bullshit but it still annoys me when people concede before everyone's vote is counted.

When McCain conceded most of the battlground states were only at 30-50% precincts reporting which means many of them could have turned the other way. Okay yes avoid the recount thing but let people's vote get counted.

In 2004 I voted absentee and Kerry conceded before they started counting absentee ballots and it annoyed me. He basically said "your vote doesn't matter." By conceding before the votes are counted. Why not wait until the morning and give your concession? The newspapers will still report that Obama won even if you didn't concede last night. Everyone still gets to the same conclusion but you don't annoy half the west coast since chances are their vote didn't matter because of when you conceded.

Yes I realize most of you will ignore this second part and comment only on the video and the other half will flame me for my opinions in the second half, whatever I'm going to work.

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ish0wstopper
Profile Blog Joined October 2008
Korea (South)342 Posts
November 05 2008 14:57 GMT
#2
probably because obama was projected to win those states he was ahead in anyway and he had a lead of like 300 to 150 electoral votes
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Ki_Do
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
Korea (South)981 Posts
November 05 2008 15:11 GMT
#3
HOLY SCIT
DRAGONFORCE111
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
November 05 2008 15:13 GMT
#4
When you're that far ahead it would basically take a miracle for the other guy to win. Conceding is just facing facts.
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motbob
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States12546 Posts
November 05 2008 15:13 GMT
#5
All of the networks were calling it for Obama.
The fact is that in America, unless it's a very specific situation, your vote probably won't "count" anyway. Unless you lived in North Carolina, Indiana, or Missouri, your vote simply wasn't likely to change anything as far as the electoral college goes. And, of course, last night it wouldn't even have mattered if all three of those razor-close states had gone to McCain.
I don't see why the candidates have to prolong the inevitable based on giving part of America a sense of efficacy. If I lived in Oregon, and one of the candidates won every one of the east coast/midwest states, I would be much happier to see the other candidate gg and let the first guy give his victory speech. But maybe that's just me.
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p4NDemik
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States13896 Posts
November 05 2008 15:29 GMT
#6
heh where i live (in kentucky) my district was one of the few to close at 6:00 pm, and it was one of the earlier states to be "decided" for either candidate. I got sorta the complete opposite feeling cause when I got back down to school later in the day and started watching all the coverage they showed like the initial count in KY and I was thinking "oh yeah, I'm one of those so many thousand" because my district was done so early.

Anyways to your point you just have to get over it really. In this era unless it is extremely close you're usually going to see candidates conceding early. Besides, there's still other people you voted for, and I'm sure at least some of those races were close. Then again maybe you're like me and you were only really concerned with the presidential election and half-assed your way through the other decisions.
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keit
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
1584 Posts
November 05 2008 15:30 GMT
#7
<3 mario paint! :D

seems the other guys missed the purpose of this topic... ._.
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eazo
Profile Joined March 2008
United States530 Posts
November 05 2008 15:34 GMT
#8
On November 06 2008 00:11 Ki_Do wrote:
HOLY SCIT
DRAGONFORCE111

Ya that caught my attention too hahahahaha
PePe QuiCoSE
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Argentina1204 Posts
November 05 2008 16:14 GMT
#9
haha cool vid.

On your point, well, I'm sure there probably countries too but the USA is the only one i know that doesn't has voting as an obligation. Also i find curious that usually the declared winner is so when the other one concedes, not when all the votes are counted. So, from my perspective i understand your point but really, it's just not contemplated in your voting system.
zer0das
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States8519 Posts
November 05 2008 17:06 GMT
#10
Mario paint songs are pretty much the greatest thing ever.
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
November 05 2008 17:12 GMT
#11
its a rickroll?????!?
koreasilver
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
9109 Posts
November 05 2008 18:00 GMT
#12
McCain got owned in the electoral votes, and really, those are the votes that really matter. The popular vote doesn't really matter. It was clear that Obama was the victor pretty early.
GHOSTCLAW
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States17042 Posts
November 05 2008 18:04 GMT
#13
On November 06 2008 02:06 zer0das wrote:
Mario paint songs are pretty much the greatest thing ever.


They're freaking awesome.

Mccain was pretty far behind in exit polling, as well as in the polling leading up to the election. It would have been better if he had waited, just so that his supporters wouldn't be disappointed in him. However, when he conceded doesn't really change the election results.
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Navane
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Netherlands2748 Posts
November 05 2008 18:56 GMT
#14
the whole winner takes all is ridiculous imho
Mikilatov
Profile Blog Joined May 2008
United States3897 Posts
November 05 2008 19:15 GMT
#15
I don't think the OP is saying that McCain would of had a remote chance of winning.. He's saying it's disrespectful to voters to quit so early and make them feel like their votes don't count. The next time a vote rolls around there's always the chance that people on the west coast will be like "oh, my vote didn't matter last time so why should I sit in line for two hours to vote?"

I'm also all for Obama, but I totally can see what the OP is talking about.
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hugitout
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
United States379 Posts
November 05 2008 19:54 GMT
#16
you rickrolled us with politics thats new i guess
Raelcun
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
United States3747 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-06 01:49:05
November 05 2008 20:03 GMT
#17
On November 06 2008 04:15 Mikilatov wrote:
I don't think the OP is saying that McCain would of had a remote chance of winning.. He's saying it's disrespectful to voters to quit so early and make them feel like their votes don't count. The next time a vote rolls around there's always the chance that people on the west coast will be like "oh, my vote didn't matter last time so why should I sit in line for two hours to vote?"

I'm also all for Obama, but I totally can see what the OP is talking about.

This guy seems to be the only one who gets the point, Political Science classes talk about the 2004 election and how Kerry's concession before the end of the night disenfranchised voters making people immediately after say they were less likely to vote next time around. This time around there was such a large amount of effort on both sides to get people to get out and Vote that you'd think they'd avoid the same mistake.

As for the networks calling it too early? Yeah McCain didn't concede until around 11:30? I dont remember the exact time but the networks were calling an Obama Victory as early as 9PM EST that's pretty rediculous imho. Let's make something clear I never said I thought McCain was going to win I just said he should have waited to concede so that maybe next time around these people won't go "hey my vote didn't matter why should I vote"

On November 06 2008 00:13 motbob wrote:
All of the networks were calling it for Obama.
The fact is that in America, unless it's a very specific situation, your vote probably won't "count" anyway. Unless you lived in North Carolina, Indiana, or Missouri, your vote simply wasn't likely to change anything as far as the electoral college goes. And, of course, last night it wouldn't even have mattered if all three of those razor-close states had gone to McCain....(rest of post chopped)


This guy is proving my point with what he's saying, Obama has disproved this general idea by going into states that are traditionally republican controlled and making the networks mark them as swing states. By making the networks wonder if Obama might win traditional Republican states he contributed to the networks calling his victory even earlier. But the problem is if Obama can make a concerted effort to bring Republican states into contention by saying "Come out an vote you can make a difference" he's proved it can work the other way around as well. I don't ever want to hear someone say that someones vote won't "count" just because they're in a heavily tilted state.

If every republican in a democratic state doesnt go out and vote just because "Hey it's a democratic state my vote won't matter" then it's no real surprise that the sate goes democratic. If you can break people from their conventional thought of my state is Red or my sate is Blue and get them to go out and vote anyway you'd see a large difference.

But I'm off the original topic here the main issue is by conceding too early you're contributing to people feeling like their vote doesnt matter. So in 4 years when maybe the election is closer what do you do when some of those voters don't show up? Think forward a little wait half a day before giving your concession speech and you avoid all of this.

If McCain had waited to concede the front page of my paper would have been "Obama Wins" not "McCain Concedes" and that's a very very different connotation

Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-11-05 21:31:29
November 05 2008 21:30 GMT
#18
There is no reason to consider how the 2000 and 2004 election would've been different if all those people came out and voted, because there wasn't any reason for them to. Obama is riding off amazing charisma during turbulent times, thus the kind of situation we had yesterday. That those states went from traditionally Republican to swing states is merely a reflection of the overall situation of the country and not a sign that your vote does matter - it simply looks like that there is a difference.

In other words, if the Credit crisis did not occur, I heavily doubt that we would see the kind of results that we did in such radical shifts.

EDIT - And seriously, every Republican in NY voting won't make a difference. We'd need like five votes each to even come close to contesting here -.-
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24698 Posts
November 05 2008 22:00 GMT
#19
On November 06 2008 06:30 Ecael wrote:
EDIT - And seriously, every Republican in NY voting won't make a difference. We'd need like five votes each to even come close to contesting here -.-

We had 62% d to 37% r in such an election... not quite as one-sided as you think haha.
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Ecael
Profile Joined February 2008
United States6703 Posts
November 06 2008 00:24 GMT
#20
On November 06 2008 07:00 micronesia wrote:
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On November 06 2008 06:30 Ecael wrote:
EDIT - And seriously, every Republican in NY voting won't make a difference. We'd need like five votes each to even come close to contesting here -.-

We had 62% d to 37% r in such an election... not quite as one-sided as you think haha.

Exaggeration :p

Depends on the area you are at though, in the City it really feels like that I am outnumbered five to one.
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