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On November 05 2008 12:15 Hippopotamus wrote:That Obama's taxing more for people over 250k shouldn't even be an election issue, except that lots of people--and not all of them have delusions about getting rich as does J.T.P--seem to love defending the interests of the top 5%.
Tax hikes in general don't help a recession like the current one, regardless of who you're taxing. They tend to hurt because they take away buying power from the people. Voting against Obama because he's taxing the rich isn't "defending the interests of the top 5%", its endorsing sound basic economic policy. Given the state of the economy right now, any change in fiscal policy is an election-relevant issue.
I voted Obama because of Palin. I would have voted for McCain had he chosen a better running mate. Choosing people to run the various departments is one of the major real roles of the president, and how can we trust McCain to make intelligent choices when he picks someone thats borderline retarded as his running mate?
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On November 06 2008 00:19 Nitrogen23 wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2008 20:50 nimysa wrote:On November 05 2008 10:38 Nitrogen23 wrote:On November 05 2008 09:37 nimysa wrote:
WTF is with people taking this election as a popularity contest? I mean the majority of people voting don't seem to be aware of what a presidential election means. I mean first its Obama is black, women bla bla bullshit, and now suddenly the stock market crash now everyone is worrying about the economic issues, but now its back to Obama is black and Mccain is old etc etc etc. I mean seriously goddammit, have people have so become apathetic and selfish that the only they care about are things that directly affects them somehow? Shouldn't people force their self-interests to not cloud their judgments? I could go on and go on but I still think the U.S is fucked up, whether Obama gets elected or not. On November 03 2008 08:44 nimysa wrote:On November 03 2008 08:33 Empyrean wrote:
Maybe you could actually turn your things in on time like 99% of the general population and realize that you're complaining about 40 cents while taking advantage of a service that the rest of the world would kill for. What the rest of the world does I don't know of, and frankly I don't care because they don't directly affect me and I don't know what the rest of the world does in its spare time or whatever shallow morals they posses. W-W-W-WWHAAAAAT Can you twist and intentionally misinterpret things more please? That was in response to someone saying that I should care about poor people in the world that don't have the same things as me, or other people that I don't know much about. This is equivalent to saying I can't be depressed because children are dying in Africa and I should be worried about fruit flies because they are not human. My response was the perfect one to yet another idiot telling about people deprived in the world. At least have the guts to post the proper context; even if what you were trying to imply was true, this blog post would be legitimate because it was concerning the state of the country, which affects me. Plus this is about politics, something different from the original post I made in the other blog post. Personally, I would feel violated if money crubbing fiendish librarians attempted to sack my pockets. i really don't understand why you keep running back to that children starving in africa idea, it isn't even comparable to this situation. we're saying you should be happy that you have a library, because you can get FREE* books, and yet you continuously violate their rules and keep books for too long, then complain because they give you a minor punishment. *if you know how a library works and how to return books on time and that was the proper context, i didn't cut anything out, I even left all the quotes in from people you responded to. you essentially just gave me more evidence you don't care about many things because they have no "direct" effect on you. HOLY fuck you idiot, you realize you can avoid library fees completely if you just follow the libraries policy and turn your books in on time?
Whoa whoa! Someone takes the internets very seriously!
The original complaint in that thread was that I shouldn't be angry over the library issue because I have something many people in the world would die for, thats why I stated the whole the africa argument thing because its essentially saying the same thing:
Maybe you could actually turn your things in on time like 99% of the general population and realize that you're complaining about 40 cents while taking advantage of a service that the rest of the world would kill for.
You also forgot to consider the part where I said that all the good books are hard to come by and the renewal policies are a bit aggravating:
"usually because in my library the good books are always checked out so its too late everyday"
But the library only allows you to renew the books the day before they are due, and if you happen to have any fees around 10$ then you can't renew or do anything at all. If you try to renew the day after they are due, then they charge you $.40 for all the books. If you return the books immediately after the day it was due then they still charge you for the books you returned. If you return any overdue books then you still have to pay for the days for the same books that you had not returned for several days or weeks. Also there are limitations on when you can renew books, like in some times you can't renew books because the library might consider it too "early" to renew them.
Nice job again taking things out of proportion asswipe!! Instead of actaully reading everything that I wrote, you just read 1 or two sentences and made a generalization!!!!
Although I must confess that I'm a bit disorganized, so I would half agree that it was idiotic on my part to rant, however you're not making a good case.
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On November 05 2008 23:30 ish0wstopper wrote:Show nested quote +On November 05 2008 12:14 Valentine wrote:On November 05 2008 10:03 ish0wstopper wrote:
we had a functional retard as vp just now
you dont see senators going and shooting their fellow hunters in the back because everyone knows deer are humanoid and wear clothes and hats
elections are ALWAYS popularity contests
havent you attended high school? Did he not shoot his friend in the face, not the back? And they were quail hunting, by the way. Birds look pretty different from deer. Oh also, your an idiot. who cares? it wasnt an important event i just know he shot his "friend" in the back Oh also, "you're" an idiot.
So, you replied, and couldn't wait so long for me to reply back and decided to RAGE to me via PM? Super, lol.
Of course, who cares? It wasn't an imporant event, but you brought it up, and had to keep this back-and-forth shit going by sending a PM to me, just to make sure I realized how much of an idiot I am for saying "your" instead of "you're".
When I said that you were an idiot, I was referring to:
elections are ALWAYS popularity contests
havent you attended high school?
Sorry if you couldn't understand my meaning.
Here's the PM, by the way. Just in case anyone wanted to see it:
you dumb fuck
its you're, not your
if you are gonna use proper spelling and grammar when you type on the internet, use it properly you fucking retard
moron.
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On November 05 2008 09:37 nimysa wrote:
WTF is with people taking this election as a popularity contest? I mean the majority of people voting don't seem to be aware of what a presidential election means. I mean first its Obama is black, women bla bla bullshit, and now suddenly the stock market crash now everyone is worrying about the economic issues, but now its back to Obama is black and Mccain is old etc etc etc. I mean seriously goddammit, have people have so become apathetic and selfish that the only they care about are things that directly affects them somehow? Shouldn't people force their self-interests to not cloud their judgments? I could go on and go on but I still think the U.S is fucked up, whether Obama gets elected or not.
Luckily you are here to teach us that people think about themselves.
Why do you think communism failed? :D
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On November 06 2008 06:59 nimysa wrote:Show nested quote +On November 06 2008 00:19 Nitrogen23 wrote:On November 05 2008 20:50 nimysa wrote:On November 05 2008 10:38 Nitrogen23 wrote:On November 05 2008 09:37 nimysa wrote:
WTF is with people taking this election as a popularity contest? I mean the majority of people voting don't seem to be aware of what a presidential election means. I mean first its Obama is black, women bla bla bullshit, and now suddenly the stock market crash now everyone is worrying about the economic issues, but now its back to Obama is black and Mccain is old etc etc etc. I mean seriously goddammit, have people have so become apathetic and selfish that the only they care about are things that directly affects them somehow? Shouldn't people force their self-interests to not cloud their judgments? I could go on and go on but I still think the U.S is fucked up, whether Obama gets elected or not. On November 03 2008 08:44 nimysa wrote:On November 03 2008 08:33 Empyrean wrote:
Maybe you could actually turn your things in on time like 99% of the general population and realize that you're complaining about 40 cents while taking advantage of a service that the rest of the world would kill for. What the rest of the world does I don't know of, and frankly I don't care because they don't directly affect me and I don't know what the rest of the world does in its spare time or whatever shallow morals they posses. W-W-W-WWHAAAAAT Can you twist and intentionally misinterpret things more please? That was in response to someone saying that I should care about poor people in the world that don't have the same things as me, or other people that I don't know much about. This is equivalent to saying I can't be depressed because children are dying in Africa and I should be worried about fruit flies because they are not human. My response was the perfect one to yet another idiot telling about people deprived in the world. At least have the guts to post the proper context; even if what you were trying to imply was true, this blog post would be legitimate because it was concerning the state of the country, which affects me. Plus this is about politics, something different from the original post I made in the other blog post. Personally, I would feel violated if money crubbing fiendish librarians attempted to sack my pockets. i really don't understand why you keep running back to that children starving in africa idea, it isn't even comparable to this situation. we're saying you should be happy that you have a library, because you can get FREE* books, and yet you continuously violate their rules and keep books for too long, then complain because they give you a minor punishment. *if you know how a library works and how to return books on time and that was the proper context, i didn't cut anything out, I even left all the quotes in from people you responded to. you essentially just gave me more evidence you don't care about many things because they have no "direct" effect on you. HOLY fuck you idiot, you realize you can avoid library fees completely if you just follow the libraries policy and turn your books in on time? Whoa whoa! Someone takes the internets very seriously! The original complaint in that thread was that I shouldn't be angry over the library issue because I have something many people in the world would die for, thats why I stated the whole the africa argument thing because its essentially saying the same thing: Show nested quote +
Maybe you could actually turn your things in on time like 99% of the general population and realize that you're complaining about 40 cents while taking advantage of a service that the rest of the world would kill for.
You also forgot to consider the part where I said that all the good books are hard to come by and the renewal policies are a bit aggravating: Show nested quote +
"usually because in my library the good books are always checked out so its too late everyday"
But the library only allows you to renew the books the day before they are due, and if you happen to have any fees around 10$ then you can't renew or do anything at all. If you try to renew the day after they are due, then they charge you $.40 for all the books. If you return the books immediately after the day it was due then they still charge you for the books you returned. If you return any overdue books then you still have to pay for the days for the same books that you had not returned for several days or weeks. Also there are limitations on when you can renew books, like in some times you can't renew books because the library might consider it too "early" to renew them.
Nice job again taking things out of proportion asswipe!! Instead of actaully reading everything that I wrote, you just read 1 or two sentences and made a generalization!!!! Although I must confess that I'm a bit disorganized, so I would half agree that it was idiotic on my part to rant, however you're not making a good case.
those weren't my points, i clearly reiterated them in my previous post. read again. in the likely case you cannot find it, i will repost it for you here:
we're saying you should be happy that you have a library, because you can get FREE* books, and yet you continuously violate their rules and keep books for too long, then complain because they give you a minor punishment.
*if you know how a library works and how to return books on time
i believe this was the point of several other people, as well as myself, and there were other people who were saying that you should be happy that you have a library, and that is also true. i don't think the whole "starving kids in africa" theory you keep reposting is a valid retort to EITHER of these arguments.
oh yeah, nice job contradicting yourself when you said that i generalized your rant, when you completely generalized my post and missed the entire point. congrats.
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I think it's a shame that so many people are just focusing on the fact that Obama is black. It's great that we elected an African American to be our president, but I don't see how that's going to help him do his job. I just wish people would treat him as our president rather than some billboard.
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