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Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-30 22:10:24
October 30 2008 22:09 GMT
#1
What is the probability of a straight with no face cards?

My answer:
6C1 x (4C1)^5 - 6C1 x 4C1 and then whole thing divided by 52C5

TA's answer:
6C1 x (4C1)^5 - 5C1 x 4C1 and then whole thing divided by 52C5

Did I do my cases wrong? I'll explain my analysis in case it is confusing.
6C1 : low card of straight from A to 6 (6 possible cards)
4C1^5 : picking suit of each card in straight
-6C1 x 4C1: Subtract straight flush possibilities.

Please explain to me which one is right. FYI, a normal straight probability is:
10C1 x (4C1)^5 - 10C1 x 4C1 and then whole thing divided by 52C5

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qrs
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States3637 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-30 22:23:29
October 30 2008 22:17 GMT
#2
It looks to me that you did it right. The 5 in the TA's answer may be from the five cards in a hand, which is irrelevant. For each of the 6 no-face-card-straights, there are 4 ways it can be a flush, as you said.

(although if I was doing the problem, given your wording, I wouldn't subtract anything at all. Isn't a straight flush still a straight?)
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bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
October 30 2008 22:19 GMT
#3
You seem right. Have you asked the TA whether they may have made a mistake/gotten a reason why you are wrong from them?
Fzero
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States1503 Posts
October 30 2008 22:31 GMT
#4
Did you ask if the Ace was a "face card" in that definition?
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bludragen88
Profile Joined August 2008
United States527 Posts
October 30 2008 22:54 GMT
#5
Even if it is, the first 6 and the second 5 should both be 5 then, because they both mean "the number of straights without a face card".
sigma_x
Profile Joined March 2008
Australia285 Posts
October 30 2008 23:25 GMT
#6
Your answer seems correct. When subtracting, you are subtracting a straight flush possibility from each of the straight possibilities; thus you should be able to factor 6C1 from your answer.
Ryshi
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
Canada361 Posts
October 30 2008 23:35 GMT
#7
Thank you all. The face card does not include Ace otherwise the first part would be wrong too.
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Profile Blog Joined February 2008
United States1219 Posts
October 31 2008 00:03 GMT
#8
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