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Part 3: Farewell 9 Hatch

Blogs > jpunshon
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Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
Last Edited: 2009-09-30 06:21:25
October 04 2008 11:48 GMT
#1


*****
AttackZerg
Profile Blog Joined January 2003
United States7454 Posts
October 04 2008 12:16 GMT
#2
Good idea dropping 9hat against terran. Until your zergling micro picks up maybe keep doing it in zvp because you can avoid a sunken sometimes vs a two gate, which is awesome.

ZvT don't be creative. Find a build you like and use it. 3 hat muta>muta/ling ->muta/lurker/ling -> defiler is the most effective build.

One build won't auto win, but until you fully understand 1, using random strats and sometimes pulling a win won't help you learn as fast as understanding the timmings of mutalisk vs +1 weapons sunken bust builds, or defilers timming vs tank/sci push. Keep plugging along my man. your blogs are hopefull and entertaining.

(I never ever 4pool,5pool, or 9pool , unless you need a win learning how to do those doesn't keep you unpredictable, its a ladder nobody knows you anyway

Good luck !
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-04 12:47:17
October 04 2008 12:46 GMT
#3
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
October 04 2008 12:52 GMT
#4
haha you're cute
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
October 04 2008 13:09 GMT
#5
OP, the mentality on ICCUP is "rush or get rushed". Yes, it is a spiral of evil. I used to 1 rax expo more before, but now I mostly 8rax into expo to be safe from 4/5 pool.

On October 04 2008 21:46 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<

Haha! This happened to me when I started playing SC, my friend was raping me with this Carrier/Arbitor strategy on Hunters and my computer allies were highly disorganised. Then I realised that tanks in siege mode out range the cannnons that were protecting him so well until he got 8+ carriers and could move out. After that he quit SC. He still tries to make fun of me for going on with SC, though I am happy I did.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
Aus)MaCrO
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Australia349 Posts
October 04 2008 13:25 GMT
#6
On October 04 2008 21:52 Ilikestarcraft wrote:
haha you're cute


Thanks, I guess.
-slo.m1ke-
Profile Blog Joined September 2008
Slovenia352 Posts
October 04 2008 14:07 GMT
#7
On October 04 2008 22:09 meathook wrote:
OP, the mentality on ICCUP is "rush or get rushed". Yes, it is a spiral of evil. I used to 1 rax expo more before, but now I mostly 8rax into expo to be safe from 4/5 pool.

Show nested quote +
On October 04 2008 21:46 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<

Haha! This happened to me when I started playing SC, my friend was raping me with this Carrier/Arbitor strategy on Hunters and my computer allies were highly disorganised. Then I realised that tanks in siege mode out range the cannnons that were protecting him so well until he got 8+ carriers and could move out. After that he quit SC. He still tries to make fun of me for going on with SC, though I am happy I did.


That still leaves me with noone to play with. I saw the Low-lvl clan thread but i cant play bnet :<

halp pls
Zoler
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Sweden6339 Posts
October 04 2008 14:13 GMT
#8
On October 04 2008 23:07 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2008 22:09 meathook wrote:
OP, the mentality on ICCUP is "rush or get rushed". Yes, it is a spiral of evil. I used to 1 rax expo more before, but now I mostly 8rax into expo to be safe from 4/5 pool.

On October 04 2008 21:46 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<

Haha! This happened to me when I started playing SC, my friend was raping me with this Carrier/Arbitor strategy on Hunters and my computer allies were highly disorganised. Then I realised that tanks in siege mode out range the cannnons that were protecting him so well until he got 8+ carriers and could move out. After that he quit SC. He still tries to make fun of me for going on with SC, though I am happy I did.


That still leaves me with noone to play with. I saw the Low-lvl clan thread but i cant play bnet :<

halp pls


Buy sc and go bnet
Lim Yo Hwan forever!
Slayer91
Profile Joined February 2006
Ireland23335 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-04 14:29:48
October 04 2008 14:27 GMT
#9
Go 10/9 hatch. Doesn't anal your economy as much and its slightly safer than 12 hatch if you do your build right. I don't see why make a big fuss. The only real difference is a little less mins for a faster hatch assuming you go hatch ovi pool.
meathook
Profile Joined December 2007
1289 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-10-04 15:51:54
October 04 2008 15:28 GMT
#10
On October 04 2008 23:07 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2008 22:09 meathook wrote:
OP, the mentality on ICCUP is "rush or get rushed". Yes, it is a spiral of evil. I used to 1 rax expo more before, but now I mostly 8rax into expo to be safe from 4/5 pool.

On October 04 2008 21:46 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<

Haha! This happened to me when I started playing SC, my friend was raping me with this Carrier/Arbitor strategy on Hunters and my computer allies were highly disorganised. Then I realised that tanks in siege mode out range the cannnons that were protecting him so well until he got 8+ carriers and could move out. After that he quit SC. He still tries to make fun of me for going on with SC, though I am happy I did.


That still leaves me with noone to play with. I saw the Low-lvl clan thread but i cant play bnet :<

halp pls

Play on Podolsk or some other server.. there is brain server and NIC and that polish server... Netwars. But you should really play on ICCup.
An ugly planet. A bug planet.
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 04 2008 16:34 GMT
#11
yay for dropping 9 hatch. remember, dont look for temporary solutions to a bigger problem (9 hatching to make up for your zergling/drone micro). just keep losing to 2 gate and improve your micro. if you want, post reps in the strategy section and we can help you out.

when i was at D levels i couldnt beat terran, so i resorted to 9 pool speeding all of them. i'd get wins here and there, but i never learned anything from it. not until i decided to suck it up and 12 hatch and take the losses. same thing when bunker rush became popular, i must've lost my first 10 games or something vs bunker rush, but gotta stick with 12 hatch and learn to defend it.

anyway yea, nothing wrong with mixing up your play now and then, but for improvement youll want to learn towards the standard builds most of the time to improve your mechanics.
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Tropics
Profile Joined August 2007
United Kingdom1132 Posts
October 04 2008 17:43 GMT
#12
I think "your locked into one build mentality" is a pretty bad one. When you're playing friends or on iccup, your #1 goal should be improve, improve, improve. And to improve, the best way is to find a build and practice the everloving shit out of it. Experimenting can come when you are better, when you know why things work and why they don't work. For now, if you're only D, I'd recommend just massing the hell out of standard builds. Over and over again. Train those mechanics, get some gamesense. For certain things they might not work because you don't have the mechanics or something in your strategy is off, until you hit a higher level just mass the hell out of a standard build.

They're standard for a reason, after all. Save the cheese for tournament or league play!

If you combine my post with Your_Killer's one above mine you can pretty much get all my thoughts on improving @ bw
Ilikestarcraft
Profile Blog Joined November 2004
Korea (South)17726 Posts
October 05 2008 03:14 GMT
#13
On October 05 2008 01:34 YoUr_KiLLeR wrote:
yay for dropping 9 hatch. remember, dont look for temporary solutions to a bigger problem (9 hatching to make up for your zergling/drone micro). just keep losing to 2 gate and improve your micro. if you want, post reps in the strategy section and we can help you out.

when i was at D levels i couldnt beat terran, so i resorted to 9 pool speeding all of them. i'd get wins here and there, but i never learned anything from it. not until i decided to suck it up and 12 hatch and take the losses. same thing when bunker rush became popular, i must've lost my first 10 games or something vs bunker rush, but gotta stick with 12 hatch and learn to defend it.

anyway yea, nothing wrong with mixing up your play now and then, but for improvement youll want to learn towards the standard builds most of the time to improve your mechanics.

^_^ what about my bunker rush?
"Nana is a goddess. Or at very least, Nana is my goddess." - KazeHydra
YoUr_KiLLeR
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States3420 Posts
October 05 2008 03:18 GMT
#14
your bunker rush way too good =(
what the fuck do you have to say for yourself now you protoss jackass can you retaliate in any way
Mastermind
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Canada7096 Posts
October 05 2008 03:51 GMT
#15
On October 04 2008 23:13 Zoler wrote:
Show nested quote +
On October 04 2008 23:07 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
On October 04 2008 22:09 meathook wrote:
OP, the mentality on ICCUP is "rush or get rushed". Yes, it is a spiral of evil. I used to 1 rax expo more before, but now I mostly 8rax into expo to be safe from 4/5 pool.

On October 04 2008 21:46 -slo.m1ke- wrote:
im still scared to play on ICCup since i havent played anyone except my friend (who has decided that lurkers are imba and hes not going to play sc anymore) :<

Haha! This happened to me when I started playing SC, my friend was raping me with this Carrier/Arbitor strategy on Hunters and my computer allies were highly disorganised. Then I realised that tanks in siege mode out range the cannnons that were protecting him so well until he got 8+ carriers and could move out. After that he quit SC. He still tries to make fun of me for going on with SC, though I am happy I did.


That still leaves me with noone to play with. I saw the Low-lvl clan thread but i cant play bnet :<

halp pls


Buy sc and go bnet

ya, no kidding. What does sc cost these days, like $10? I think you can just buy a cdkey off of the blizzard store.
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