• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 14:39
CET 20:39
KST 04:39
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros10[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
[BSL21] RO32 Group Stage0Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly2Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION3
StarCraft 2
General
RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" [TLCH] Mission 7: Last Stand Weekly Cups (Oct 26-Nov 2): Liquid, Clem, Solar win; LAN in Philly Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament Monday Nights Weeklies SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia $3,500 WardiTV Korean Royale S4 Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 498 Wheel of Misfortune|Cradle of Death Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace
Brood War
General
SnOw on 'Experimental' Nonstandard Maps in ASL Finding world war 2 allied hope / final players? BW General Discussion [BSL21] RO32 Group Stage [ASL20] Ask the mapmakers — Drop your questions
Tourneys
BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION [ASL20] Grand Finals Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
Current Meta How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Dawn of War IV Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread ZeroSpace Megathread General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Dating: How's your luck? Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
AI is so fuckin funny
Peanutsc
Challenge: Maths isn't all…
Hildegard
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1625 users

Calculus Help for a Friend

Blogs > Nick_54
Post a Reply
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
September 20 2008 06:26 GMT
#1
So my one friends is taking a caluculus class that is beyone my level. I took basic calc at a junior college, but now he is in the second class. So I am asking TL for help. After reading that IQ thread a while ago it should be easy. Let me see if I remember the notation right.

Its an integral the upper limit is x^2 and the lower limit is (x^2)/2. The inside of the integral is ln t^.5 dt.

Sorry if that is hard to read I don't know of any converter. Thanks again for your help and I will eventually post one of these where I am just not begging for help.

Day[9]
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States7366 Posts
September 20 2008 06:28 GMT
#2
this is a cute problem

all you have to do is use the fundamental theorem of calculus to solve it too!!!!
Whenever I encounter some little hitch, or some of my orbs get out of orbit, nothing pleases me so much as to make the crooked straight and crush down uneven places. www.day9.tv
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 06:41:12
September 20 2008 06:32 GMT
#3
On September 20 2008 15:28 Day[9] wrote:
this is a cute problem

all you have to do is use the fundamental theorem of calculus to solve it too!!!!


Is it 0? Idk haven't taken it in like 2 years so I don't remember anything lol.

Edit: Day if Savior wins this match you have to help me lol.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 20 2008 06:43 GMT
#4
dude watch the savior games!!
Nick_54
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States2230 Posts
September 20 2008 06:46 GMT
#5
On September 20 2008 15:43 il0seonpurpose wrote:
dude watch the savior games!!


I am watching it, but my comp can't handle the stream.
Saracen
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States5139 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 07:37:59
September 20 2008 07:26 GMT
#6
On September 20 2008 15:43 il0seonpurpose wrote:
dude watch the savior games!!

+ Show Spoiler +
don't
it will make you cry


EDIT: i feel so dumb right now ... can't do math anymore
.5x^2(lnx^2-1) - .25x^2(ln(x^2/2)-1)
simplify gogo

god that better be right
2:40 AM and summer vacation do absolute shit for your brain
JacobDaKung
Profile Blog Joined May 2006
Sweden132 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 08:23:02
September 20 2008 08:22 GMT
#7
answer is ((x^2)^1.5 - (.5x^2)^1.5)/1.5
Storchen
Profile Joined September 2006
Sweden4385 Posts
September 20 2008 09:12 GMT
#8
Your answer is 5.
5
Nytefish
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United Kingdom4282 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-20 14:37:45
September 20 2008 09:14 GMT
#9
eheh nvm didn't read question right
No I'm never serious.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-21 18:30:00
September 20 2008 12:13 GMT
#10
...
ln(X^0.5) = (1/2)ln(X), the prime function of ln(x) is xln(x) - x if I remember correctly
so (1/2)*[xln(x) - x)] with the limit x^2/2 --> x^2, simplified should be:

((X^2)/4) * (1+ ln(X^2) + ln(2)) final answer.
Really, play for fun!
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
September 20 2008 14:11 GMT
#11
This should be correct unlike the other answers:

Substitute sqrt(t)=M
dM*2M=dt

int(ln(sqrt(t))dt=int(ln(M)*2MdM)

primitive function to that is:ln(M)*M^2-(M^2)/2

Boundary changes to due integration leads to:
ans=ln(x)*x^2-(x^2)/2-ln(x/2)*(x/2)^2+(x^2)/8=0.75*ln(2x)x^2-(x^2)3/8
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
September 20 2008 14:39 GMT
#12
42
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
September 20 2008 15:13 GMT
#13
On September 20 2008 23:11 Klockan3 wrote:
This should be correct unlike the other answers:

Substitute sqrt(t)=M
dM*2M=dt

int(ln(sqrt(t))dt=int(ln(M)*2MdM)

primitive function to that is:ln(M)*M^2-(M^2)/2

Boundary changes to due integration leads to:
ans=ln(x)*x^2-(x^2)/2-ln(x/2)*(x/2)^2+(x^2)/8=0.75*ln(2x)x^2-(x^2)3/8


but your boundary changes are wrong...

we have t = (x^2)/2, and M = sqrt(t) ---> M = sqrt(x^2/2) = x/sqrt(2)....
Really, play for fun!
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
September 21 2008 11:04 GMT
#14
On September 21 2008 00:13 ZpuX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 20 2008 23:11 Klockan3 wrote:
This should be correct unlike the other answers:

Substitute sqrt(t)=M
dM*2M=dt

int(ln(sqrt(t))dt=int(ln(M)*2MdM)

primitive function to that is:ln(M)*M^2-(M^2)/2

Boundary changes to due integration leads to:
ans=ln(x)*x^2-(x^2)/2-ln(x/2)*(x/2)^2+(x^2)/8=0.75*ln(2x)x^2-(x^2)3/8


but your boundary changes are wrong...

we have t = (x^2)/2, and M = sqrt(t) ---> M = sqrt(x^2/2) = x/sqrt(2)....

Yeah, they are

But its just in the last steps.
ZpuX
Profile Blog Joined December 2002
Sweden1230 Posts
September 21 2008 11:38 GMT
#15
well dont try to sound so superior, and recheck your answer with the others, and you'll see if you actually were the "only" right...
Really, play for fun!
Klockan3
Profile Blog Joined July 2007
Sweden2866 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-09-21 12:40:20
September 21 2008 12:36 GMT
#16
On September 21 2008 20:38 ZpuX wrote:
well dont try to sound so superior, and recheck your answer with the others, and you'll see if you actually were the "only" right...

But your answer is wrong on so many places that I did not read through the post throughout, but it seems like all the errors were made when you tried to calculate it and not earlier. Also you should try to avoid confusing notations such as x^2/2, it was a part why I skimmed your post since I thought you meant something different than (x^2)/2. I use it now in this to make it easier to follow from yours but you should make yourself clear.


(1/2)*[xln(x) - x)] with the limit x^2/2 --> x^2, simplified should be:

(1/2)*((x^2)*ln(X^3) + (X^2)/2 - ((X^2)/2)*ln(2)).

Is not correct at all. It should be:
(x^2ln(x^2)-x^2)/2-(x^2/2ln(x^2/2)-x^2/2)/2=x^2/2(ln(x^2)-ln(x^2/2)/2)-x^2/2+x^2/4

=x^2/2*ln(2x^2)-x^2/4=ln(x*sqrt2)x^2-1/4*x^2

Or if we write it in more equal terms as yours:
(1/2)*((x^2)*ln(X^2) - (X^2)/4 + ((X^2)/2)*ln(2)).

Also this is the same as you would get if you used the correct boundary change in my own.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
LAN Event
18:00
Merivale 8: Swiss Groups Day 1
SteadfastSC188
IndyStarCraft 186
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
mouzHeroMarine 422
White-Ra 223
SteadfastSC 188
IndyStarCraft 186
UpATreeSC 45
ROOTCatZ 20
ForJumy 19
JuggernautJason9
StarCraft: Brood War
Shuttle 687
firebathero 201
NaDa 17
Dota 2
Dendi1186
Counter-Strike
pashabiceps965
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu241
Other Games
FrodaN1668
Beastyqt1022
Mlord477
RotterdaM318
Fuzer 231
mouzStarbuck226
Grubby221
ArmadaUGS116
C9.Mang083
QueenE63
Trikslyr62
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL173
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 17 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Adnapsc2 11
• Reevou 4
• Dystopia_ 1
• Kozan
• Migwel
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• sooper7s
• intothetv
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV630
• Ler86
League of Legends
• TFBlade751
Other Games
• imaqtpie1098
Upcoming Events
PiGosaur Monday
5h 22m
Replay Cast
13h 22m
WardiTV Korean Royale
16h 22m
LAN Event
19h 22m
OSC
1d 3h
The PondCast
1d 14h
LAN Event
1d 19h
Replay Cast
2 days
LAN Event
2 days
Korean StarCraft League
3 days
[ Show More ]
CranKy Ducklings
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
LAN Event
3 days
IPSL
3 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Replay Cast
4 days
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
4 days
LAN Event
4 days
IPSL
4 days
JDConan vs WIZARD
WolFix vs Cross
Replay Cast
5 days
Wardi Open
5 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

BSL 21 Points
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
YSL S2
IEM Chengdu 2025
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
Acropolis #4
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
LHT Stage 1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.