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Throughout the years, martial arts has evolved into so many different styles that it is impossible to count. Different parts of the world have developed self-defense systems in order to protect themselves since the early ages and had improved those systems as they adapted to their environments. Though all those styles maybe very different in their techniques and skills taught, all share one united goal: to give a person the ability to face danger and deal with it in the most efficient possible way. Although different styles seek their way to prefect one thing the best they could, others argued that we should use whatever we can get. One of the most notable people to have done that is one of the greatest martial arts legends : Bruce Lee.
Bruce Lee, one of the "fathers" of modern martial arts took a different approach to martial arts than many before him. Instead of maximizing one thing, why not take the whole picture and pick out whatever is essential from each style and use it. "Use only that which works, and take it from any place you can find it." is a quote that lee used to described part of his philosophy towards martial arts. He wanted to use everything humanly possible developed by different masters and absorb it. This doesn't mean that he wanted to be a master every single style, but rather combine whatever he can combine to find new more effective combinations. This new approach towards martial arts inspired huge amounts of people which eventually lead to MMA's establishment and other tournaments such as UFC. Another huge part of lee's philosophy is the ability to be formless and unexpected. To bring in a new element to martial arts was a huge turnover. "Be formless... shapeless, like water. If you put water into a cup, it becomes the cup. You put water into a bottle; it becomes the bottle. You put it into a teapot; it becomes the teapot. Water can flow, and it can crash. Be water, my friend..." is yet another famous quote from Bruce lee which basically means to be so flexible like water, and yet at the same time strong because of your flexibility. You can flow and move swiftly or crash and be as hard as stone. Both by Lee's theory was approachable and clearly possible. He wanted to dismiss the fact that the more strong and bigger you are, the more powerful.
Bruce Lee's philosophy and theories are what made him into this great martial arts icon. To combine such theory, with physical fitness creates an unstoppable weapon. However, Lee's death came to a shock for everyone in the world. How can a person so fit die so suddenly?! The case reports that Lee has been suffering from some kind of headache due to over practice and pushing himself above his limits, he was then prescribed a medicine but it turned out that he was allergic to it. It was too late for him or anyone to realize that, as the medicine served as his fatal blow and died because it increased the swelling of his brain causing his misfortune death. Although Lee is not in this world anymore, he will always be remembered for his amazing martial arts skills and philosophies.
 
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5/5 good read, also Bruce Lee pwns.
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Bruce lee is fucking awsome, too bad he isnt still alive T_T
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anyone care to fill my ignorance with what year he died, and how he died? 
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On September 19 2008 08:10 YanGpaN wrote:anyone care to fill my ignorance with what year he died, and how he died?
I will add that now.
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I love Bruce Lee but I wanna mention a few things, not to say you're wrong, but more because you might be interested to know.
On September 19 2008 07:36 DragoonPK wrote:
Though all those styles maybe very different in their techniques and skills taught, all share one united goal: to give a person the ability to face danger and deal with it in the most efficient possible way.
Not quite. Lee was disliked by many traditional martial artists because they felt he was making martial arts 'dirty' by making it purely efficient. In the shaolin temple they made lots of different styles, and their goal wasn't so much 'being as effective as possible', but something more spiritual and beautiful and religious. Efficiency came from understanding the art so much after training your whole life. There came times when they needed efficient styles, such as when the nun Ng Mui taught Yim Wing Chun an unnamed style so that she can quickly learn to fight efficiently (because basically some dude said to yim that if she can beat him in a fight then she can marry whoever she wants, and she won, etc.) which she later named 'wing chun', which Lee learnt from Yip Man, and is the largest (or one of the biggest, if you want to be anal) influence/inspiration for his Jeet Kune Do. Half of what he means by 'style with no style' or whatever he said is basically just making it into an efficient fighting system, rather than, say, observing some animal's beautiful movements and making like a spiritual dance out of it which you train your body to become fluent/natural at, and to fight using those movements.
He wanted to dismiss the fact that the more strong and bigger you are, the more powerful.
I've got to disagree with this too because one of the things Lee used to say is that many martial artists train their mind too much and neglect training their body (think of a scrawny monk). He was like a body builder. There are even body builder magazines n shit with his picture. He was careful with how he trained his muscle though (he said to.. uh.. William Chung? I don't remember.. that because he kicks the kickbag too much his kicks/legs are slow (due to how the muscle develops through different training. I don't know. Ask a bodybuilder)). So in a way this is true, saying that if you just develop muscle mass and not... whatever it is... I don't know much about this area but training your muscles is important, but in a way that doesn't make you slow.
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Ya he found that most styles, including most of the so called "masters" in a particular form, would get completely anihilated by a muay thai fighter back then. He was really the first guy who brought mma to the united states, but it's been 30 something years so it's easy to forget his impact in the fighting world.
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In Raymond Chow's biography of Bruce, "Bruce Lee, the Legend," it said that Bruce died on the way to the hospital after a doctor couldn't wake him up. He was with Betty Ting Pei in her apartment and when he complained about a headache, she gave him a painkiller. After his death, Chow said that Bruce was sensitive to some ingredient in the medicine which caused his brain to swell.
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On September 19 2008 08:37 darkmetal505 wrote:
In Raymond Chow's biography of Bruce, "Bruce Lee, the Legend," it said that Bruce died on the way to the hospital after a doctor couldn't wake him up. He was with Betty Ting Pei in her apartment and when he complained about a headache, she gave him a painkiller. After his death, Chow said that Bruce was sensitive to some ingredient in the medicine which caused his brain to swell.
There are a million rumors in a million different newspapers and magazines and everything about how he died, ranging from suicide, to drugs, to assassinated, to secret organization getting rid of him, to losing a fight, to cancer, to like a fuck load of bullshit and so basically it's better to just not think about it.
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hide.X are you practicing wing tsun?
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On September 19 2008 08:41 hide.X wrote:Show nested quote +On September 19 2008 08:37 darkmetal505 wrote:
In Raymond Chow's biography of Bruce, "Bruce Lee, the Legend," it said that Bruce died on the way to the hospital after a doctor couldn't wake him up. He was with Betty Ting Pei in her apartment and when he complained about a headache, she gave him a painkiller. After his death, Chow said that Bruce was sensitive to some ingredient in the medicine which caused his brain to swell. There are a million rumors in a million different newspapers and magazines and everything about how he died, ranging from suicide, to drugs, to assassinated, to secret organization getting rid of him, to losing a fight, to cancer, to like a fuck load of bullshit and so basically it's better to just not think about it.
Ya confirmed by the surgeons that it was mixed with a pill he took that caused his brain to swell. I practice wing chun too
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yes I do wing chun. Wing chun and wing tsun can refer to different styles (branches), as one is the cantonese yip man style/branch, and the other is chinese. The family tree can look confusing too because it can appear to have different names but really if you can read chinese it makes sense. During class do you count in canto (yat yee sam sei mm) or mando (yi er san si wu)?
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On September 19 2008 08:45 BalliSLife wrote:http://www.bruce-lee.ws/article2.html good interview with jhoon rhee about bruce. He is the tae kwon do grandmaster that trained with bruce and taught him kicks
Lots of people like saying they taught Lee. Although I don't doubt the article, Bruce wouldn't have much use for tae kwon do's kicks. Except for movies n shit.
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I'm practicing WT. leung ting is our GM. But as far as I know WT and WC are the same style, only that WT uses a modernized teaching circle, aren't they?
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difference between wing chun and wing/ving tsun is trademark. Wing Chun is the correct pinyin though. Wing Tsun says leung ting is the gm, wing chun says william cheung is the gm. William cheung teaches wing chun as yip man taught it, and as yip man learnt it (traditional wc), I'm trying not to diss your gm, but leung ting's group isnt known for being very pleasant. This dude called Emin Boztepe challenged william cheung and cheung said no because boztep isn't his level and bozteop kept asking so cheung said ok after the demo (which he was about to do), and during cheung's demo boztep jumped him and got on top of him and tried to smash him UFC style but cheung deflected his punches so he's fine. Ting hasn't been true to the style either and doesn't care about modifications of technique or principal and his interpretation of the style's fighting philosophy is.. let's say, 'unique' to him, as he believes that the correct way to interprit the center line philosophy is to 'attack' the center line, whereas traditionaly the concept of center line was understood as the practitioner's own center line (meaning deflecting attacks away from your vulnerable line, moving out of the way of force, and using the triangular footwork/movement you are probably familiar with to simultaneously move out of the force's course, and to 'bridge' the distance between you and them so that you can counter attack from a position that is away from their reach of your center lin (like 45degree angle to their center, almost at blind spot, but not quite, as they can spin around n shit)).
When you said WT is modernized, then yeah, leung's group did change it. Leung's interpretation is different to traditional WC, and really, if you think Bruce Lee knows his shit, it contradicts Lee's way of fighting too. Also in my opinion (but not only mine) leung's WT completely fucks up the footwork. I've been to Germany, and I saw there's a lot of wt schools. Not sure if they teach wc there. William Cheung isn't affiliated with Wing Chun (the trademark/organization anymore, cos he's got family n shit, but I know his son because he's my friends ex boyfriend lol).
EDIT: also in leung's group, there seems to be a fuck load of people with red sashes (an honorary level beyond gold which signifies that the gm recognises that persons absolute complete mastery of the art. Cheung only gave it to one dude who's in australia right now called Bruce (not lee). He's also teaches this thing called san chau (spelling?) which is like wing chun + boxing + a few other things, which is supposed to be more suitable for the ring (boxing ring) and has much more full contact than any wing chun, cos he believes wing chun (all types) weakness is that it doesn't have enough full contact training (which is true, I mean, lot's of martial artists just forget what they learnt in a real fight cos they aren't used to using it like that).
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I saw that Bruce Lee statue in Hong Kong 2 years ago, very cool pose.
There are also plans to build a Bruce Lee museum in HK, I really hope it gets started soon.
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absolutely no clue what most of this or anyone's comments are about
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I wish Bisu would get his shit together.
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On September 19 2008 09:48 tube wrote:
absolutely no clue what most of this or anyone's comments are about
It's about Bruce Lee, maybe you should learn to read or better yet stay out of the thread if you have nothing to contribute but to make a useless statement
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On September 19 2008 09:49 Djabanete wrote:
I wish Bisu would get his shit together.
Troll
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