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ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
August 21 2008 07:49 GMT
#1
hey folks.

so I'm looking for some books that explain economics theory, but from a Keynesian or progressive point of view. it should be pretty recent, and accessible to somebody without a background in the field. I'm a fiscal conservative, but for competitive reasons I'd like to familiarize myself with the other side of the argument.

What can you guys recommend?

*im looking at you moltke, jibba, kwark*

thanks dudes.

*
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
August 21 2008 07:55 GMT
#2
Nah, try googling already, or wiki it? have no clue about fiscal stuff though. I am labor economist
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
August 21 2008 08:20 GMT
#3
The economist has spoken. GG.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 14:25:57
August 21 2008 14:16 GMT
#4
http://www.amazon.com/End-Laissez-Faire-Economic-Consequences-Peace/dp/1591022681/ref=pd_bbs_sr_3?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219327362&sr=1-3

http://www.amazon.com/General-Theory-Employment-Interest-Money/dp/1573921394/ref=pd_bbs_2?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219327362&sr=1-2

http://www.amazon.com/Economic-Consequences-Peace-Maynard-Keynes/dp/1426489099/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219327781&sr=1-1

It's hard to find good economics books that aren't $100+ text books. The only normal books that are usually published are lay man's explanations of general economics. The nice thing about Keynes is that he's actually a good writer, unlike Smith. The big one (The General Theory of Employment, Interest, and Money) is mostly analytical and not heavy with numbers.

I haven't read this one but it sounds good.

http://www.amazon.com/Keyness-General-Accumulation-Cambridge-Economics/dp/0521368154/ref=sr_1_9?ie=UTF8&s=books&qid=1219327781&sr=1-9

Honestly, I'd just go through a read all the big names' work. Keynes, Friedman, Hayek, etc. Between monetary and Keynesian economics, I don't think there's a true right answer. It's a bit funny to read all the extremely negative reviews on Amazon by Austrians (aka libertarians) who don't want their money touched. They claim Keynes has destroyed the world.
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KrAzYfoOL
Profile Blog Joined September 2005
Australia3037 Posts
August 21 2008 14:31 GMT
#5
IN THE LONG RUN WE'RE ALL DEAD!!
It's better to burn out than to fade away
oneofthem
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
Cayman Islands24199 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 14:52:54
August 21 2008 14:43 GMT
#6
mises.org is an endless source of lulz, that much makes it valuable.

calling oneself a fiscal conservative makes you seem like you've learned your economics on internet forums.
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nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
August 21 2008 14:58 GMT
#7
Check out A Brief History of Economics, by E. Ray Canterbery. You might also try some of J.K. Galbraith books. The only one of his that I read was The Culture of Contentment, and it was plenty accessible.

Also look into writings by Richard Easterlin, Alan Durning, and Juliet Schor. All of these are less Keynesian, to my knowledge, but very "progressive."
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triangle
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States3803 Posts
August 21 2008 15:16 GMT
#8
If you just want a really basic introduction, I recommend Naked Economics by Charles Wheelan
Also known as waterfall / w4terfall
nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
August 21 2008 15:46 GMT
#9
Also, since you want a progressive or alternative perspective, you definitely ought to read Marx, particularly Das Kapital. He had a very large impact on economics. More recently, but still 100 years old, is the Theory of the Leisure Class by Thorstein Veblen, which is a very radical look at economics - so radical that it is not even studied in economics, but is rather regarded as a sociological work. But Veblen was a well respected economist and intended his work to be in the field of economics.
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economist_
Profile Blog Joined April 2008
Vietnam719 Posts
August 21 2008 16:12 GMT
#10
Marx 's is not good for economist its for political use but yeah his is very progressive
Economics forecast assumes everything, except responsibilities
JWD
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States12607 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-21 16:36:05
August 21 2008 16:35 GMT
#11
On August 21 2008 17:20 BottleAbuser wrote:
The economist has spoken. GG.


You won't find any Keynesian thought in the Economist. Actually, to the OP, you're probably kind of out of luck if you're looking for contemporary Keynesian literature.

Then again...you can still find textbooks on Creationism, so what the hell am I talking about.
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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 21 2008 17:18 GMT
#12
Friedman is certainly the more widely accepted of the two, but neither side will really die out as no one is ever completely right or completely wrong and there's plenty of examples of Keynesian thinking at work in Europe.
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nA.Inky
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
United States794 Posts
August 21 2008 17:25 GMT
#13
As I understand it, there is plenty of Keynesian thinking at work in the US, seen in particular through huge military expenditures, but also through social spending.
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EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
August 21 2008 17:34 GMT
#14
You should start by studying the classical economists: Adam Smith, Ricardo, etc. Then study the Marxist critique: Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, etc. Then study the Keynsian and liberal 'solutions' to the problems of capitalism: John Maynard Keynes, Galbraith, etc. Then study the neo-classical and neo-liberal critique of liberalism and Marxism: Friedman, Hayek, etc. There is a kind of over-arching historical narrative to it all, though it's not completely linear...
But why?
ahrara_
Profile Blog Joined February 2008
Afghanistan1715 Posts
August 21 2008 19:01 GMT
#15
actually I was looking for just "laymen's explanations". i actually ordered naked economics on an amazon search last night. it has more of a moderate perspective than the books i've read so far (hazlitt's economics in one lesson, sowell's basic economics).

oneofthem: huh? and where did you learn your economics?
in Afghanistan we have 20% literacy rate
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 21 2008 19:50 GMT
#16
On August 22 2008 02:34 EmeraldSparks wrote:
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You should start by studying the classical economists: Adam Smith, Ricardo, etc. Then study the Marxist critique: Communist Manifesto, Das Kapital, etc. Then study the Keynsian and liberal 'solutions' to the problems of capitalism: John Maynard Keynes, Galbraith, etc. Then study the neo-classical and neo-liberal critique of liberalism and Marxism: Friedman, Hayek, etc. There is a kind of over-arching historical narrative to it all, though it's not completely linear...

That's actually a really great suggestion when you get more used to everything. History is like the backbone for every other subject out there, and it really doesn't take much more than a Wikipedia entry to start to understand the context of some of these things.
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rushz0rz
Profile Blog Joined February 2006
Canada5300 Posts
February 06 2009 07:21 GMT
#17
Sorry to bump, I'd rather just post in an already made topic than create my own.

Can anyone also recommend books from the laissez-faire point of view too. I read Naked Economics and am reading another sort-of introductory book as well, so I'd like to get a bit more in depth after it.
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