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Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-20 21:18:21
August 20 2008 21:07 GMT
#1
Apparently this wasn't related to the Olympics, even though the first 5 pages of the thread were discussing the thing.

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5g9kbAlfUWyxb6Y1vucS7TF8krrtgD92LFNJ01

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China's Olympic ceremony features sacrifices

By GILLIAN WONG – 1 day ago

BEIJING (AP) — Martial arts student Cheng Jianghua only saw the army barracks he stayed in and the stadium where he performed at the spectacular Olympics opening ceremony. But his sacrifices were minor — other performers were injured, fainted from heatstroke or forced to wear adult diapers so the show could go on.

Filmmaker Zhang Yimou, the ceremony's director, insisted in an interview with local media that suffering and sacrifice were required to pull off the Aug. 8 opening, which involved wrangling nearly 15,000 cast and crew. Only North Korea could have done it better, he said.

But some news reports have raised questions about the lengths to which Beijing went in trying to create a perfect start to the Summer Games.

Chinese officials were accused of fakery for using computer-generated images to enhance the show's fireworks display for TV viewers.

Organizers also have been criticized about their decision to have a 9-year-old girl lip-synch "Ode to the Motherland" because the real singer was deemed not cute enough.

Performers have complained that they sustained injuries from slipping during rain-drenched rehearsals or fainting from heatstroke amid hours of training under the relentless summer sun.

Cheng and 2,200 other carefully chosen pugilist prodigies spent an average of 16 hours a day, every day, rehearsing a synchronized tai-chi routine involving high kicks, sweeping lunges and swift punches. They lived for three months in trying conditions at a restricted army camp on the outskirts of Beijing.

"We never went out during the time we were training," Cheng, 20, told the AP in a phone interview. "Our school is quite strict. When we stay in school we can't go out on our own, let alone when we're at a military camp."

In the most extreme case, Beijing organizers revealed last week that Liu Yan, a 26-year-old dancer, was seriously injured during a July rehearsal. Shanghai media reported that she fell from a 10-foot stage and may be permanently paralyzed from the waist down.

Zhang, the ceremony's director, visited Liu in the hospital and has told Chinese media that he deeply regrets what happened to her — but he has also defended the training schedule his performers endured.

He told the popular Guangzhou weekly newspaper Southern Weekend that only communist North Korea could have done a better job getting thousands of performers to move in perfect unison.

"North Korea is No. 1 in the world when it comes to uniformity. They are uniform beyond belief! These kind of traditional synchronized movements result in a sense of beauty. We Chinese are able to achieve this as well. Though hard training and strict discipline," he said. Pyongyang's annual mass games feature 100,000 people moving in lockstep.

Performers in the West by contrast need frequent breaks and cannot withstand criticism, Zhang said, citing his experience working on an opera performance abroad. Though he didn't mention specific productions, Zhang directed an opera at New York's Metropolitan Opera in 2006.

"In one week, we could only work four and a half days, we had to have coffee breaks twice a day, couldn't go into overtime and just a little discomfort was not allowed because of human rights," he said of the unidentified opera production.

"You could not criticize them either. They all belong to some organizations ... they have all kind of institutions, unions. We do not have that. We can work very hard, can withstand lots of bitterness. We can achieve in one week what they can achieve in one month."

In the Olympic ceremony segment showcasing the Chinese invention of movable type, the nearly 900 performers who crouched under 40-pound boxes donned adult diapers to allow them to stay inside for at least six hours, Beijing organizers said.

Some students of the Shaolin Tagou Traditional Chinese Martial Arts School in Henan province who began training for the event last May were injured in falls on the LED screen that forms the floor on which they performed and was made slippery by rain, said Liu Haike, one of the school's lead instructors.

"At one point, the children had to run in four different directions. ... When one fell, others quickly followed," Liu said, adding the injuries were minor.

While in Beijing, the constant exposure to the dizzyingly hot summer resulted in heatstroke for some students, particularly during one rain-drenched rehearsal that stretched on for two days and two nights.

The students were kept on their feet for most of the 51-hour rehearsal with little food and rest and no shelter from the night's downpour, as the show's directors attempted to coordinate the 2,008-member performance with multimedia effects, students and their head coach told the AP.

"We had only two meals for the entire time. There was almost no time to sleep, even less time for toilet breaks," Cheng said. "But we didn't feel so angry because the director was also there with us the whole time."

Despite the sacrifices, the student performers were grateful for the opportunity to participate in the historic event and view it as an honor.

"All the tears, the sweat, and sometimes even blood that we shed, I now think it was quite worth it," said Ren Yang, 17, also of the Tagou school. "When we performed that night, all that I could feel in my heart was joy. Pure joy."


Retarded nationalism at its finest. I guess the last part is easy to say if you're not a paraplegic.

I'm honestly curious about what Chinese TL members think about the organizers trying to model themselves after North Korea servitude.

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QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32066 Posts
August 20 2008 21:21 GMT
#2
Wowies

Performers in the West by contrast need frequent breaks and cannot withstand criticism, Zhang said, citing his experience working on an opera performance abroad. Though he didn't mention specific productions, Zhang directed an opera at New York's Metropolitan Opera in 2006.

"In one week, we could only work four and a half days, we had to have coffee breaks twice a day, couldn't go into overtime and just a little discomfort was not allowed because of human rights," he said of the unidentified opera production.

"You could not criticize them either. They all belong to some organizations ... they have all kind of institutions, unions. We do not have that. We can work very hard, can withstand lots of bitterness. We can achieve in one week what they can achieve in one month."

lolz
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Elric
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United Kingdom1327 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-20 21:41:06
August 20 2008 21:23 GMT
#3

Zhang, the ceremony's director (when talking about managing performers in the US):
"just a little discomfort was not allowed because of human rights"


HAhahaha. Those pesky human rights...
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
August 20 2008 21:27 GMT
#4
Wow...it just stuns me how the Chinese government feels it has to do shit like this to get the world to respect them, when in reality these things are causing them to lose face amongst most people.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-20 21:37:43
August 20 2008 21:36 GMT
#5
Unions definitely cause a lot of trouble in the US these days, but it's still mindboggling to think people would happily accept that type of regimen for a program that everyone forgets in three weeks.

There was an article in either the WSJ or USA Today about some older Chinese athletes being concerned that the games have actually caused a step back in modernization, since the government took control of everything for these games.

Within the next few years the NBA will probably break that open.
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Sadist
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States7243 Posts
August 20 2008 21:44 GMT
#6
rofl @ only them looking up to north korea
How do you go from where you are to where you want to be? I think you have to have an enthusiasm for life. You have to have a dream, a goal and you have to be willing to work for it. Jim Valvano
Frits
Profile Joined March 2003
11782 Posts
August 20 2008 22:01 GMT
#7
wow that's pretty sad

All that effort for such a trivial thing, who cares about the opening lol.
Hippopotamus
Profile Blog Joined October 2004
1914 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-08-20 23:17:12
August 20 2008 23:16 GMT
#8
On August 21 2008 06:44 Sadist wrote:
rofl @ only them looking up to north korea




North Korea hosts the largest organized gymnastics performance in the second largest performance stadium in the world every 2-3 years.

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Also somewhere I read a quote from an expert that if North Korea had China's budget for their Arirang Festival they would have raped the Olympic ceremony.
haduken
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
Australia8267 Posts
August 21 2008 00:59 GMT
#9
It's all in the face.
I can't shit, i can't pee
I can fell 10 floor and still not mad
But lose your face...
omfg
Rillanon.au
ramen247
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
United States1256 Posts
August 21 2008 01:07 GMT
#10
not students... military.
i hate this ugly firebat. i want a marine.
thedeadhaji *
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
39489 Posts
August 21 2008 01:20 GMT
#11
Eye opening, but not surprising I guses TT
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 21 2008 02:14 GMT
#12
On August 21 2008 10:07 ramen247 wrote:
not students... military.

They're acrobatics students who live in a military base.
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
August 21 2008 02:32 GMT
#13
Yeah, and Korean gamers sit in a stifling box in front of cameras for hours on end "for their country." Everyone's retarded when they do something that you wouldn't do.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
August 21 2008 02:56 GMT
#14
Uhh they dont play sc to represent their country...

or I guess they do but thats only in WCG and other countries do the same
EmeraldSparks
Profile Blog Joined January 2008
United States1451 Posts
August 21 2008 04:26 GMT
#15
American high school cheerleaders have lost legs and broken bones in routines and athletes across American get heat stroke not infrequently. But when it happens in China, I guess it gets to be headline news.
But why?
Falcynn
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States3597 Posts
August 21 2008 05:15 GMT
#16
On August 21 2008 09:59 haduken wrote:
It's all in the face.
I can't shit, i can't pee
I can fell 10 floor and still not mad
But lose your face...
omfg
??

Losing face is a slang term for losing respect, I was just saying how it strikes me odd that the government seems to think that these elaborate ceremonies and their efforts to appear perfect will actually gain respect when in reality most people won't really care a day after seeing it.

Unless that wasn't directed at me, then completely ignore this
XCetron
Profile Joined November 2006
5226 Posts
August 21 2008 05:27 GMT
#17
its true tho, progress could be made much quicker with the way china does things.
BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
August 21 2008 05:36 GMT
#18
We choose not to be as productive, because we find that some things are more desirable than being productive, such as creature comforts. Our choice, their choice - simply a different notion of what's important.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
August 21 2008 06:28 GMT
#19
How far are you willing to take that cultural relativity stance?
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BottleAbuser
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
Korea (South)1888 Posts
August 21 2008 06:43 GMT
#20
Actually I do have a pretty set notion of what I think is right and wrong, and what is valuable and what is silly. As I'm sure you do.

But I also recognize other people think differently. What is the point of arguing whether or not something is "silly" or "stupid" when we cannot agree on what the terms mean?

I'd think it retarded to even go to the olympics to watch when I can simply turn on the TV or open a stream on my computer. But I know that being there, competing, whatever, it all has some value for the people who do it, and that value is greater than the cost they are paying to do it - otherwise, they wouldn't.
Compilers are like boyfriends, you miss a period and they go crazy on you.
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