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Elite Colleges Reporting Record Lows in Admission

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KH1031
Profile Blog Joined April 2003
United States862 Posts
April 03 2008 00:26 GMT
#1
NY Times: Elite Colleges Reporting Record Lows in Admission

2008 Harvard Undergraduate Admission Stats

Total number of applicants: 27462
Acceptance rate: 7.1%
Estimated number of admittance: 1950

Estimated number of applicants who scored a perfect score on SAT verbal: 2500
Estimated number of applicants who scored a perfect score on SAT math: 3300
Estimated number of applicants who are valedictorians in their high school class: 3300

---

Here is a bit of my own complaint:

My own sister, who is a graduating high school senior, has an academic average of 100.2 (Ranked 7th out of a graduating class of roughly 1100) and a SAT composite score of 2000. She is the captain of her lacrosse team, the vice president of a school club, and a member of the National Honor Society.

And her college application results? She did not get into one single Ivy(She applied to 5). Not even Northwestern or Johns Hopkins accepted her.

Tough luck? Yeah.

---

Here is some interesting college related information I've obtained after talking with her:

There is one student who is admitted into Harvard due to her outstanding performance in track, despite her rather inferior academic standing.

Then there is another student who is also an excellent track runner, and he happens to be African-American. Despite his mediocre academic standing, he was admitted into multiple Ivy League Universities.

--

So...

The moral of the story is,

If you want your future kids to be successful, marry a black woman and make your kids run.

conCentrate9
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States438 Posts
April 03 2008 00:29 GMT
#2
On April 03 2008 09:26 KH1031 wrote:

So...

The moral of the story is,

If you want your future kids to be successful, marry a black woman and make your kids run.


So I'm not successful if I don't go to an Ivy League School?
Rayzorblade
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
United States1172 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 00:34:44
April 03 2008 00:31 GMT
#3
[Edit: I'm sorry, that was rather trollish and out of character for me. I'm annoyed by sources totally unrelated to this blog or this forum.]

On the topic, I think it's a load of shit.

As a minority, affirmative action instances like this make an unconvincing case of real equality for me. Frankly, the whole affirmative action thing is just plain fucking offensive. I don't need your fucking hand-me-downs or pity parties.

I'm really sorry for your sister!
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
April 03 2008 00:34 GMT
#4
She didn't get a 2400.

How many of those people do you think got a 2400 with the same amount of extracurriculars? I would guess a lot. If she is really hot stuff, another school will pick her up and give her better scholarship money to entice her into going.
Proposal
Profile Joined December 2007
United States1310 Posts
April 03 2008 00:36 GMT
#5
Definitely was the SAT.
il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
April 03 2008 00:40 GMT
#6
So what school did your sister get into?
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 00:51:36
April 03 2008 00:48 GMT
#7
Going to an Ivy does not guarantee success.

My friend was ranked 70 or 80 out of 200 something in an elite academy in our county and got 2380's.

Got rejected to all ivies

My other friend, got in every single Ivy, including Stanford. Why? He was not only smart, but he was also a math genius (went international competitions, etc)

When it comes to Ivy competition, it's not just grades and SAT. Those high grades are really required but what allows someone to get in is also based on his or her extracurriculars.
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BuGzlToOnl
Profile Blog Joined November 2006
United States5918 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 00:52:12
April 03 2008 00:51 GMT
#8
I got accepted to University of Pittsburgh on the sole basis that I'm mexican and I used that to my advantage even wrote it down on my personal essay.

But I do think it is a bit unfair that they do that minority thing. My friend applied to the same schools I did and he hasn't gotten any info back yet, he sent his things in one week earlier than I did. We have the same accomplishments of not contributing anything to society. His GPA is slightly higher than mine, but his white so I guess he's not special enough to distinct himself to from all the other million americans that applied.
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geometryb
Profile Blog Joined November 2005
United States1249 Posts
April 03 2008 00:51 GMT
#9
i hope the people that got into multiple ivies make you feel bad.
Straylight
Profile Joined March 2008
Canada706 Posts
April 03 2008 01:13 GMT
#10
Being a disabled, first nations woman who is the first from her family to attend university will probably get you about a million dollars here in Canada.
It felt like gravity.
Caller
Profile Blog Joined September 2007
Poland8075 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 01:18:56
April 03 2008 01:16 GMT
#11
I will say that 10 people in my school are going to princeton and another 10 are going to dartmouth out of my class of 700

and this is a public school in the northeast (not new york)

and im the only one going to u chicago -_-

i will say that out of the 10 people, 2 were "mexican" (i.e. 1/128th hispanic) and 3 were sports recruits.

although sat average in our school is like 2200...

if it makes you feel better i was waitlisted at cornell and northwestern and didnt get into any ivies
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paper
Profile Blog Joined September 2004
13196 Posts
April 03 2008 01:31 GMT
#12
meh. affirmative action is retarded as hell

this black girl who was really plain in all things extracurricular and had worse grades than me got into princeton probably based solely on her skin color. (although i didn't apply ;P.)
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Luddite
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
United States2315 Posts
April 03 2008 01:33 GMT
#13
I think there's just a lot of random chance involved in who they pick. I mean it must be hard to really tell who are the best students from those stupid applications.
Can't believe I'm still here playing this same game
Aux1
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States780 Posts
April 03 2008 01:39 GMT
#14
On April 03 2008 10:31 paper wrote:
meh. affirmative blacktion is retarded as hell


agree
Jibba
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
United States22883 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 01:52:27
April 03 2008 01:49 GMT
#15
What's retarded is that you're judging your sisters' intelligence based on her class rank and SAT scores, which are honestly not very impressive. Harvard generally requires a 2100 minimum, and schools are looking less and less at those numbers anyways.

Some of the dumbest mother fuckers I knew in high school had a 4.0 and were in NHS. Essays and interviews are a huge part of admissions these days, which is a good thing. The ones who got in probably impressed them during their interviews, or have a super sweet jump shot.
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rsvp
Profile Blog Joined January 2006
United States2266 Posts
April 03 2008 01:58 GMT
#16
Top colleges look for things that set you apart from everyone else. Those track runners are probably successful on a national/international level. I'm sure your sister's intelligent and all but she has nothing that remotely sets her apart from the masses.
Romance_us
Profile Joined March 2006
Seychelles1806 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-03 02:02:45
April 03 2008 02:02 GMT
#17
Another thing I've noticed that isn't being mentioned here is ALUMNI. If your daddy and his daddy went to Harvard, guess what? Your chances of being admitted just increased a tenfold.

Pretty sweet, huh?
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Equinox_kr
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States7395 Posts
April 03 2008 02:05 GMT
#18
OH GOD WHY DO I HAVE TO GRADUATE THIS YEAR

I ONLY GOT INTO TWO COLLEGES SO FAR T_T_T_T
^-^
Raithed
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
China7078 Posts
April 03 2008 02:16 GMT
#19
On April 03 2008 11:05 Equinox_kr wrote:
OH GOD WHY DO I HAVE TO GRADUATE THIS YEAR

I ONLY GOT INTO TWO COLLEGES SO FAR T_T_T_T

watch, theyll be like NO SORRY WE DONT LIKE YOU BAI.
Daranee
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
338 Posts
April 03 2008 02:18 GMT
#20
On April 03 2008 09:31 Rayzorblade wrote:
[Edit: I'm sorry, that was rather trollish and out of character for me. I'm annoyed by sources totally unrelated to this blog or this forum.]

On the topic, I think it's a load of shit.

As a minority, affirmative action instances like this make an unconvincing case of real equality for me. Frankly, the whole affirmative action thing is just plain fucking offensive. I don't need your fucking hand-me-downs or pity parties.

I'm really sorry for your sister!


There are many people who do need it though. Many people who are smart enough to get into those schools if they were raised in affluent areas. However, I think too many colleges overplay affirmative action, as they want to be politically correct. Affirmative action was supposed to be a beneficial tool that many private institutions have completely fucked up. Now any success most black students have at these top schools are overshadowed by the fact that "they only got in because they're black" or "they only got this grant because they're black."
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