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Daveed
Profile Blog Joined December 2006
United States236 Posts
April 03 2008 20:05 GMT
#41
Caltech and MIT don't just admit "robot" students, either; don't simplify them to just that. Unless you're an uber robot (and those are pretty common around these schools). Caltech seems to admit people off of their fascination with science; not because they got high scores on these standardized tests (unless they were the USAMO or something). And MIT admissions is a little less tech-y than that.

But, of course, this is just from the people I've talked to, and the ones who did and didn't get into those schools.
Last Romantic
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States20661 Posts
April 03 2008 20:38 GMT
#42
Caltech and MIT definitely aren't pure robot schools. Yes, there are people there that are, but my image of the top IT student isn't that of a high-test high-grade one. Maybe it's just the people there that I know.
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Mx.DeeP
Profile Joined February 2008
China25 Posts
April 03 2008 21:13 GMT
#43
High grades and test scores don't mean anything anymore, they're just the minimum for all the top schools getting thrown around here. You need other stuff that no one else can say they have. Honestly, everyone that applies to the top Ivies, MIT, whatever all have the grades and scores, or else I don't even know why they're bothering. I can tell you if you're a finalist in Intel or Siemens Westinghouse, you'll get in to pretty much any school you apply to, even if you have a B- average. Or do some research at a lab and get your name published. Seriously, colleges look for things your doing out of school, not just in it.
SpiritoftheTunA
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States20903 Posts
April 03 2008 21:17 GMT
#44
On April 04 2008 06:13 Mx.DeeP wrote:
High grades and test scores don't mean anything anymore, they're just the minimum for all the top schools getting thrown around here. You need other stuff that no one else can say they have. Honestly, everyone that applies to the top Ivies, MIT, whatever all have the grades and scores, or else I don't even know why they're bothering. I can tell you if you're a finalist in Intel or Siemens Westinghouse, you'll get in to pretty much any school you apply to, even if you have a B- average. Or do some research at a lab and get your name published. Seriously, colleges look for things your doing out of school, not just in it.


not everyone does a crapload of science/math LOL?
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talismania
Profile Blog Joined December 2007
United States2364 Posts
April 03 2008 21:18 GMT
#45
I don't see why you brought up race in the initial post.

You had two examples of people who made it into ivies.

One was a girl (race unmentioned) who was good at running.

One was a guy (race mentioned) who was good at running.

I mean, if anything, you ought to conclude from that data set that race doesn't matter; running, however, does.
clazziquai
Profile Blog Joined October 2007
6685 Posts
April 03 2008 21:52 GMT
#46
On April 03 2008 15:29 Last Romantic wrote:
4.3 is a tad low, yeah.

Essay-wise, I think they were fine. I blame my GPA - which basically means it was my fault for not working hard enough.

I mean, sure, part of it might be the admissions process, but I do think I could have done better.

Ah well, UCLA and UCB are decent.


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micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24755 Posts
April 04 2008 00:13 GMT
#47
On April 04 2008 02:01 Billabong[LovE] wrote:
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On April 03 2008 14:43 Last Romantic wrote:
Affirmative action really is trashy.

Yes, I'm bitter as an Asian male with a 4.3 GPA, 2400 SAT I, several 800s, 780s, and 750s on my SAT IIs, 7 5's on AP tests, etc.

Also captain of speech/debate team, varsity cross country/track runner, President of 3 school clubs, assistant editor of school paper, Chinese school top of class, piano MTAC top level, National Honor Scholar, National Merit Scholar, Presidential Scholar, National AP Scholar

I got into 0/4 Ivies, 0/4 other private schools applied to. I received admission to UC Berkeley and UC Los Angeles, (neither of which factor race into application).

Where will your sister be attending next year ?


You got rejected from everywhere because your transcript reads like a robot. I think you'd be more suited to go to a CalTech or an MIT than an Ivy. Like others have said above, there is no "formula" for getting into an ivy league or else automated robots would be the ones operating admissions. It's about whether or not your achievements were a prediction of how successful you will be and how much you will grow (passion plays a big part in this and can be seen in admissions essays/interviews/recommendations) in college or if they were simply a means to an ends to getting into a good college. Sounds like the admissions committees saw your apps as the latter. sorry bud.

I don't want to seem like I'm putting myself on my pedestal, but this is just coming from someone who was admitted to Harvard, Cornell, Yale, AND Juilliard.
What was the purpose of this part? To show that you have credibility on this matter, and that we should believe you? Well, if you want to claim you had that special something that got you into the top schools, then tell us what it was. If you could link that rude statement to real proof of your original claim, then the fact that what you are doing is insensitive can be overlooked by the fact that you are providing the truth about a situation that you really can't provide and relate to your own life without being insensitive.
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Billabong[LovE]
Profile Joined March 2008
United States5 Posts
April 04 2008 05:47 GMT
#48
On April 04 2008 09:13 micronesia wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 04 2008 02:01 Billabong[LovE] wrote:
On April 03 2008 14:43 Last Romantic wrote:
Affirmative action really is trashy.

Yes, I'm bitter as an Asian male with a 4.3 GPA, 2400 SAT I, several 800s, 780s, and 750s on my SAT IIs, 7 5's on AP tests, etc.

Also captain of speech/debate team, varsity cross country/track runner, President of 3 school clubs, assistant editor of school paper, Chinese school top of class, piano MTAC top level, National Honor Scholar, National Merit Scholar, Presidential Scholar, National AP Scholar

I got into 0/4 Ivies, 0/4 other private schools applied to. I received admission to UC Berkeley and UC Los Angeles, (neither of which factor race into application).

Where will your sister be attending next year ?


You got rejected from everywhere because your transcript reads like a robot. I think you'd be more suited to go to a CalTech or an MIT than an Ivy. Like others have said above, there is no "formula" for getting into an ivy league or else automated robots would be the ones operating admissions. It's about whether or not your achievements were a prediction of how successful you will be and how much you will grow (passion plays a big part in this and can be seen in admissions essays/interviews/recommendations) in college or if they were simply a means to an ends to getting into a good college. Sounds like the admissions committees saw your apps as the latter. sorry bud.

I don't want to seem like I'm putting myself on my pedestal, but this is just coming from someone who was admitted to Harvard, Cornell, Yale, AND Juilliard.
What was the purpose of this part? To show that you have credibility on this matter, and that we should believe you? Well, if you want to claim you had that special something that got you into the top schools, then tell us what it was. If you could link that rude statement to real proof of your original claim, then the fact that what you are doing is insensitive can be overlooked by the fact that you are providing the truth about a situation that you really can't provide and relate to your own life without being insensitive.


I studied with a teacher at Juilliard, won multiple national violin competitions, and was a top ranked tennis player in the USTA juniors - both things I still do and am passionate about. My admissions essay talked about volunteering in 3rd world central american to help those who couldn't afford medicine/treatment and how it changed my outlook on life. I think that's what made me stand out.

And of course, I had the required stuff like 2380 SAT I, 800 SAT II's, valedictorian, national merit scholar, president of blah blah blah.
naventus
Profile Blog Joined February 2004
United States1337 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-04-04 07:01:41
April 04 2008 06:55 GMT
#49
Good for you Billabong, I bet I got into more top schools than you did. But you shouldn't be giving any advice if you claim that MIT is a robot school.

As for the OP, don't worry about any of this shit. Frankly, there's nothing the right person couldn't do without X college. Looking back as a junior now, I wish I could relive these past 3 years elsewhere and put my effort more directly in bettering myself.

The problem with college is that it comes at a point in time when most people have no clue what they want to do with their life other than what has been spoonfed them. In this sense, college is somewhat a scam just to prep recruits for the workplace.
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