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LumberJack
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
United States3355 Posts
February 04 2008 17:05 GMT
#21
On February 04 2008 21:46 BottleAbuser wrote:
Fuck you all. It depresses me that everyone here's probably better than me, and is still talking about how they suck.


at least you now know the depth of skill it takes to do well.
Man fears the darkness, and so he scrapes away at the edges of it with fire.
BrutalMenace
Profile Blog Joined July 2005
United States1237 Posts
February 04 2008 17:16 GMT
#22
lol wtf ret still plays BW? Haha i can never be as good as i once was cuz i lost my equipment and stuff.


Hi merz i was in ur clan iR. i used to own u around now ur probably hella good gj. PLAY me sometime plz, i try to play bw once a day with friends or somehting.
.MistiK
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
Netherlands347 Posts
February 04 2008 19:13 GMT
#23
my skill ceiling is at D/D+.

my APM is 100 after 3 months of playing.

that's what you call frustrating.
ilovezil
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
United States4143 Posts
February 04 2008 19:27 GMT
#24
On February 05 2008 04:13 .MistiK wrote:
my skill ceiling is at D/D+.

my APM is 100 after 3 months of playing.

that's what you call frustrating.


3 months of playing? You know most of these players have been playing this game for several years, don't you?
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-04 20:38:45
February 04 2008 20:38 GMT
#25
On February 05 2008 04:13 .MistiK wrote:
my skill ceiling is at D/D+.

my APM is 100 after 3 months of playing.

that's what you call frustrating.


haha 3 months, geez. I would call that a decent start :p

especially if you haven't played an RTS competatively before
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
JensOfSweden
Profile Blog Joined February 2007
Cameroon1767 Posts
February 04 2008 20:39 GMT
#26
On February 05 2008 00:00 fanatacist wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 04 2008 21:10 JensOfSweden wrote:
I think maybe you should change your style abit. Don't take this too seriously but from the reps and FPVods I've seen from you, you play very textbook mostly.

Perhaps try some new strats and weird shit to mix it up? Every gosu player has an arsenal of those

I think the problem with only playing like the same 3 maps all over which happens alot on ladders is that people tend to do the same thing every game and their perspective narrows down alot, something which I've noticed about myself when you go 10 games in a row on Python.
My new fav map is Zodiac though.

I'm also struggling to be better, I'm C highest Terran now but I know I can push into B, I have the speed (250-300 apm) and multitasking and just need to actually play better, scout more etc.


Also yeah...like Ret says, BW can be so frustrating. When you win a couple games in a row against decent players you feel really confident but when you loose 3 games against those same players you feel like a fucking newbie.

You're a macro machine, you just need better sense I think ;D

Not my place to say really xD What are we, 6-0? That's why I'm D+.



Yeah I know. I lack that "sense of star" that pro's have ;o

Come to op tl-west sometime, would be fun to play some games again
<3 Nada [On and off TL.net since 2002
skyglow1
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
New Zealand3962 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 04:05:22
February 04 2008 20:42 GMT
#27
Don't be too bothered. The latter seasons of PGT were much easier to get higher ranks than the current seasons of iCCup. This means at around B level you were playing crappier players in PGT than you were in iCCup. Being able to still get B+ actually means you've gotten better.

If you want to improve considerably from now I think you need to change your whole mindset and how you approach the task of training and improvement.
merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-05 01:37:31
February 05 2008 01:37 GMT
#28
Woah! I never thought i'd get so many respones to this. I've read through all the comments, and i'd like to thank everyone who actually came with some feedback.

I don't really know who I'm supposed to respond to, all I can say is that i'm definitely going to think through some of the stuff that's been mentioned.

Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Seraphim
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
United States4467 Posts
February 09 2008 08:08 GMT
#29
Let's be honest here...B+ on iCCup >>>>> B+ PGT

iCCup is a MUCH harder ladder than PGT. You're still gosu Merz, don't worry about it
Hermes | Bisu[Shield] Fighting~!
404.Nintu
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
Canada1723 Posts
Last Edited: 2008-02-10 10:55:37
February 10 2008 10:51 GMT
#30
I think everyone is right. Iccup sounds like it's much more difficult and evolved. (I actually have no idea, haven't been playing for too long.)

I think your frustration is natural, and every good player gets it(along with the bad ones :D.)

Just make sure that you have the right mindset when you play/practice. Don't just "go through the motions" or "I hope I can play as well as I did before," but rather, make a conscious effort to improve and such. I know you've probably heard it a million times, but I really believe it's the most important part.

I've been playing since SC2 announcement and just got C-(Which I think is not bad,) and recently I've been worrying that I'm going to stop improving. The important thing for me is not to lose the momentum I've gained through the past few months. Never be satisfied, because when you're satisfied, you do your hardest to maintain the skill you've achieved instead of trying to improve upon it. Instead of stopping and saying "Hey, I did pretty well", and allowing myself to round off, my goal is to keep pushing my limits. When you find yourself improving, keep the momentum! I know you're at a way higher SC level than me, but hopefully this advice can be helpful in some way.
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