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defenestrate
United States579 Posts
Having lifted my mandible from the floor, I wonder: what the hell should I do? I could realistically ramble in prose and hit "enter" to space it at random intervals (which is what a good chunk of the rhymeless stuff I've seen actually looks like), but it doesn't seem honest. My style is in the structure; without it, I'm left with random crap.  | ||
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fig_newbie
749 Posts
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SonuvBob
Aiur21550 Posts
2. Find a thesaurus. | ||
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Gokey
United States2722 Posts
On October 25 2007 18:25 SonuvBob wrote: 1. Make a standard rhyming poem. 2. Find a thesaurus. lol i guess too much flexibility can be a bad thing... but really, it's just your mind tricking you | ||
Daigomi
South Africa4316 Posts
1. Rhythm is more important in non-rhyming poetry, and harder to understand. You can't stick to a simple iambic pentametre in non-rhyming poetry. Make sure that the poem still reads comfortable (do not use a thesaurus!) 2. There are many different styles of non-rhyming poetry. Find one that suits you, and continue writing in it. 3. Try to understand freeform poetry. It's very easy to confuse rhymes for rhyming poetry, but freeform poetry takes away that which most people believe is the root of poetry, so you have to rediscover what poetry really is. Make sure you do. Some poets you can look at if you want ideas of the different kind of styles that can be found in freeform poetry: The anti-poets: Charles Bukowski, Allen Ginsberg, and Richard Brautigan. They wrote in a very conversational style of poetry (and often used conversation as a basis for their poetry) and wrote about topics which was previously seen as unfit for poetry. See: Bukowski - Curtains Ginsberg - Howl Brautigan - Deer Tracks The sad-poets: Sylvia Plath and Anne Sexton. Although they did occasionally write rhyming poetry, more often than not they used freeform. These poets both made use of strong imagery and metaphors as well as quick rhythms to move the poetry forward. See: Plath - Cut Sexton - Bayonet The lyricist-poets: David Lehman, Ken Abustani (also known as AR Lamb I think), and Ralph Angel. These poets create beautiful imagery and usually quite flowing poetry by using long run on lines. Sentences are rarely ended, and the entire poem is usually centered around a single image. See: Lehman - January 31 Ken Abustani - her eyes were like Ralph Angel - This The contemporary-poets: David Berman, Billy Collins, and Donald Justice. These are more modern poets. They don't specifically have a point to make, or great emotions to conjure up. They do use words very effectively, and they often tell stories in their poems. See: Berman - Imagining Defeat Collins - I Go Back To The House For A Book Justice - Men at 30 The epic-poets: Bertold Brecht, and Horst Bienek. There are probably others here as well, but these two just sprung to mind now. These poets were both war poets from Germany (I think Bienek might have been from the Ukraine, not sure). They use free verse to comment on the war, and the poetry is often quite grand. It's still non-rhyming though, so maybe this style would suit you. See: Brecht - To Posterity Bienek - Rebellion The other-poets: These poets are simply other poets that don't fall into a specific group but that are still worth looking at. I'll make a list of the poets and a good poem by them, but you'll have to look at the poems to identify the differences in style: Bill Knot - Death Ted Hughes - Crow's fall Edward Field - The Farewell Carol Ann Duffy - Talent Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Brainwashed Poet Christopher van Wyk - In Detention Raymond Carver - Stupid Stephen Crane - In the desert Russell Edson - Conjugal Ronald Koertge - Colouring Sharon Olds - The Pope's Penis DH Lawrence - Snake Carl Sandburg - Happiness EE Cummings - My Sweet Old Etcetera. William Carlos Williams - Danse Russe Richard Aldington - Childhood Phew. What a shitload of poems to read. Hope you get the time to read some of them, and hopefully they help. | ||
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rpf
United States2705 Posts
There's a difference between writing a paragraph, and hitting "Enter" randomly, and writing something comprised of short phrases. | ||
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fig_newbie
749 Posts
On October 25 2007 21:57 Daigomi wrote: Bill Knot - Death Ted Hughes - Crow's fall Edward Field - The Farewell Carol Ann Duffy - Talent Lawrence Ferlinghetti - Brainwashed Poet Christopher van Wyk - In Detention Raymond Carver - Stupid Stephen Crane - In the desert Russell Edson - Conjugal Ronald Koertge - Colouring Sharon Olds - The Pope's Penis DH Lawrence - Snake Carl Sandburg - Happiness EE Cummings - My Sweet Old Etcetera. William Carlos Williams - Danse Russe Richard Aldington - Childhood Phew. What a shitload of poems to read. Hope you get the time to read some of them, and hopefully they help. God that poem rules. | ||
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Pwntrucci[sR]
Canada1519 Posts
I'd leave. | ||
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EvilTeletubby
Baltimore, USA22259 Posts
On October 26 2007 02:39 Pwntrucci[sR] wrote: If it were me and some guy told me what to do in any area of arts or creativity I'd leave. I'm assuming there is a point behind it though. He is actually forcing them to work harder to make a successful piece of work. | ||
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