• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 01:17
CET 06:17
KST 14:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros9[ASL20] Finals Preview: Arrival13TL.net Map Contest #21: Voting10[ASL20] Ro4 Preview: Descent11Team TLMC #5: Winners Announced!3
Community News
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win62025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales!10BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION2Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams10Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest5
StarCraft 2
General
Weekly Cups (Oct 20-26): MaxPax, Clem, Creator win Weekly Cups (Oct 13-19): Clem Goes for Four DreamHack Open 2013 revealed RotterdaM "Serral is the GOAT, and it's not close" Intel X Team Liquid Seoul event: Showmatches and Meet the Pros
Tourneys
Merivale 8 Open - LAN - Stellar Fest SC4ALL $6,000 Open LAN in Philadelphia Kirktown Chat Brawl #9 $50 8:30PM EST 2025 RSL Offline Finals Dates + Ticket Sales! Crank Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Strategy
Custom Maps
Map Editor closed ?
External Content
Mutation # 497 Battle Haredened Mutation # 496 Endless Infection Mutation # 495 Rest In Peace Mutation # 494 Unstable Environment
Brood War
General
What's going on with b.net? BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ Ladder Map Matchup Stats Map pack for 3v3/4v4/FFA games BW General Discussion
Tourneys
[ASL20] Grand Finals BSL21 Open Qualifiers Week & CONFIRM PARTICIPATION Small VOD Thread 2.0 The Casual Games of the Week Thread
Strategy
How to stay on top of macro? PvZ map balance Current Meta Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2
Other Games
General Games
Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Path of Exile Nintendo Switch Thread The Perfect Game Beyond All Reason
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion LiquidDota to reintegrate into TL.net
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread SPIRED by.ASL Mafia {211640}
Community
General
Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread The Big Programming Thread
Fan Clubs
White-Ra Fan Club The herO Fan Club!
Media & Entertainment
[Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! Korean Music Discussion Series you have seen recently...
Sports
MLB/Baseball 2023 TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread NBA General Discussion
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
SC2 Client Relocalization [Change SC2 Language] Linksys AE2500 USB WIFI keeps disconnecting Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
more word salad -- pay no h…
Peanutsc
Career Paths and Skills for …
TrAiDoS
Reality "theory" prov…
perfectspheres
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1453 users

Calling all mathematicians!

Blogs > kdog3683
Post a Reply
kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
October 25 2007 05:48 GMT
#1
I'm in need of dire help!

I have been given a topic; "polar functions."

I know how to do the calculus for it, I just don't know how to make a project off it.

For example, my friend is doing something on the serpinski gasket, showing that randomness does have a pattern; he is recreating an experiment.

I have wracked my brains and cannot think of anything. There are no 'experiments' I can do. It seems as if I can only summarize "polar functions are... bllah balh blah". What I want is something where i can analyse and work with the numbers.

My friend suggested working with its graphs, however, I only see myself doing surface level work if I work with the graphs.

If any of you have any suggestions on a mathematics paper (roughly 2000 words), please tell!



*
Multiply your efforts.
bine
Profile Blog Joined April 2005
United States2352 Posts
October 25 2007 06:04 GMT
#2
Well, the first thing that comes to me with polar functions is always the applications. Maybe look at some novel ways of applying polar coordinates that use whatever calculus you're studying?
evanthebouncy!
Profile Blog Joined June 2006
United States12796 Posts
October 25 2007 07:00 GMT
#3
Do Kapler's law, rose pedal graph or something : )
Life is run, it is dance, it is fast, passionate and BAM!, you dance and sing and booze while you can for now is the time and time is mine. Smile and laugh when still can for now is the time and soon you die!
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
October 25 2007 07:06 GMT
#4
On October 25 2007 16:00 evanthebouncy! wrote:
Do Kapler's law, rose pedal graph or something : )

This is actually a good idea. I think its "Kepler" but w/e. Look it up.
Do you really want chat rooms?
Bill307
Profile Blog Joined October 2002
Canada9103 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-10-25 07:46:13
October 25 2007 07:16 GMT
#5
Polar coordinates (that's what you mean, right?) have numerous applications in physics, and anytime you need to work with something elliptical. Unfortunately, it's a bit difficult for me to come up with examples that are both interesting and not too advanced.

Here are some general problem areas I can think of where polar coordinates are useful:

o Elliptical motion in physics (e.g. due to gravity). Example: Kepler's Second Law.

o Elliptical objects. Example: derive parametric equations for a torus.

o Complex numbers. These are often expressed in the form:
r e^(i t) = r cos t + i r sin t


By the way, if you're looking for something a little more aesthetically interesting, you can look into Lissajous curves. In particular, if you're good at programming as well, you can write a program to plot the curves for you. This will allow you to experiment with as many parametric equations as you can imagine.

Lastly, although I don't recommend doing this for your project, because it's really much different from polar coordinates, you can take the equations and start putting the previous x and y coordinates into them. Now you can end up with chaotic behaviour that will trump your friend's "randomness" easily . I did this during high school and wrote a program that allowed me to produce images like the following:

[image loading]


Example: define two sequences as follows:
Base cases:
x_1 = 0
y_1 = 0
Recursive cases:
x_(n+1) = y_n
y_(n+1) = sin( 3n ) * cos( sqrt(2)n - (x_n)^2 )

(notice we are not really using polar coordinates anymore, hence this is totally unrelated to your project =P)

(note: credit for these sequences goes to one of my highschool friends, who came up with them)

The following image shows the points (x_n, y_n) for n = 1 to 50,000, all coloured white for simplicity.

[image loading]


Pretty cool, huh?
fight_or_flight
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States3988 Posts
October 25 2007 07:33 GMT
#6
Also, I just remembered that the calc book I used (stewart) had a number of interesting problems and projects in each section.
Do you really want chat rooms?
GeneralCash
Profile Joined December 2005
Croatia346 Posts
October 25 2007 09:36 GMT
#7
what exactly do you mean by polar functions?? a function in polar coordinates??

polar coordinates have numerous uses. in physics, anything with at least a partial central symetry is converted into polar/spherical coordinates.

the problem of a mass in a centraly symetrical potential seems like a good idea (kepler's problem is just a special case) can be interesting. you get a shitload of weird looking spirals.

another example would be the polar solution for the schrodinger equasion, l and m -quantization, legendre functions, spherical harmonics...

a 2-d harmonic oscilator leads to lissajous curves, like bill307 said. they are pretty easy to plot, look cool and have pretty wide-used aplications.

phase space trajectories of a sytem with a completely separated hamiltonian also use polar coordinates (angle/action coordiantes).
Cascade
Profile Blog Joined March 2006
Australia5405 Posts
October 25 2007 18:56 GMT
#8
ohh, lovley first image there Bill, but the thumbnail looks a lot better than the full version.

I wish people asking about help like this would specify what level they are at, so you know what you can use to help them...

That said:

You could explain spherical symmetry in physics, and how you get conservation of angular momentum from it. Corresponding in x-y coordinates is translation invariance and momuntum conservation.

Also anything related to atomic physics will be crammed with sperical coordinates. (if that is what you are asking about). Maybe look at the schrödinger equation for a hydrogen atom (without the extra anisotropic corections) and solve it?

You could also write about the cute little trick with polar coordinates to calculate the intergral of a gaussian int e^(x^2)dx over entire real axis. Basically you look at the square of the integral, merge them into one integral of two variables x and y, do a change of variables to polar coordinates, and then you can find a primitive and you win.
kdog3683
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
United States916 Posts
October 26 2007 01:33 GMT
#9
wow thanks so much everyone.
Multiply your efforts.
Cambium
Profile Blog Joined June 2004
United States16368 Posts
November 18 2007 00:47 GMT
#10
You can talk about signals and systems, which is entirely based on complex numbers.

You have your Laplace transforms transforming your signals between time domain and frequency domain.
When you want something, all the universe conspires in helping you to achieve it.
Jim
Profile Joined November 2003
Sweden1965 Posts
November 18 2007 17:46 GMT
#11
Do some integrals and show the superiority of using polar coordinates when the domain is suitable.
To sup with the mighty ones, one must climb the path of daggers.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 8h 43m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nina 206
StarCraft: Brood War
ToSsGirL 78
Moletrap 17
Dota 2
XaKoH 391
LuMiX0
League of Legends
JimRising 742
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor126
Other Games
summit1g17885
ViBE198
Livibee65
NeuroSwarm62
Organizations
Other Games
gamesdonequick1655
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 12 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• davetesta47
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• Migwel
• sooper7s
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
League of Legends
• Stunt588
Upcoming Events
BSL Team A[vengers]
8h 43m
Cross vs Sobenz
Sziky vs IcaruS
SC4ALL
9h 43m
SC4ALL
9h 43m
BSL 21
13h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 3h
Wardi Open
1d 6h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 11h
Replay Cast
1d 17h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Korean Royale
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
5 days
CranKy Ducklings
6 days
IPSL
6 days
dxtr13 vs OldBoy
Napoleon vs Doodle
Liquipedia Results

Completed

CSL 2025 AUTUMN (S18)
CranK Gathers Season 2: SC II Pro Teams
Eternal Conflict S1

Ongoing

BSL 21 Points
BSL 21 Team A
C-Race Season 1
IPSL Winter 2025-26
KCM Race Survival 2025 Season 4
SOOP Univ League 2025
SC4ALL: Brood War
SC4ALL: StarCraft II
PGL Masters Bucharest 2025
Thunderpick World Champ.
CS Asia Championships 2025
ESL Pro League S22
StarSeries Fall 2025
FISSURE Playground #2
BLAST Open Fall 2025
BLAST Open Fall Qual
Esports World Cup 2025

Upcoming

YSL S2
BSL Season 21
SLON Tour Season 2
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXVIII
RSL Offline Finals
WardiTV 2025
RSL Revival: Season 3
Stellar Fest
META Madness #9
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026: Closed Qualifier
eXTREMESLAND 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
SL Budapest Major 2025
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025
IEM Chengdu 2025
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2025 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.