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LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
September 15 2007 02:57 GMT
#21
On September 15 2007 07:17 Headlines wrote:
I don't understand this. I think the people who jumped had an option correct? No outside force was pushing them out, they did this on their own free will. So that's considered suicide...Ok for those who did have the option to jump but didn't and burned to death, would they be considered a suicide too?


They didn't take their own life. They did everything they could to avoid inevitable death (the flames burning them). I'm pretty sure you have a better chance of surviving a few hundred foot fall than being burned in jet fuel for an hour and then having millions of tons of building collapse on top of you. And yes, by your logic, standing in the fire would have been suicide because they chose to be burned alive instead of escaping the flames.

No one stood in the fire in order to die, just like no one jumped in order to die. They did what they did with the intention of maximizing survival chance (in their opinion) and reducing immediate pain.
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il0seonpurpose
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Korea (South)5638 Posts
September 15 2007 03:40 GMT
#22
It said in the bible that nothing can seperate you from the love of God, so I guess God would accept you, I mean if you think about it...


Burning in flames for 2 minutes isnt considered suicide really, you can't help it!

Throwing yourself is though, but yeah its a hard question.
decafchicken
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
United States20168 Posts
September 15 2007 03:52 GMT
#23
On September 15 2007 12:40 il0seonpurpose wrote:
It said in the bible that nothing can seperate you from the love of God, so I guess God would accept you, I mean if you think about it...


Burning in flames for 2 minutes isnt considered suicide really, you can't help it!

Throwing yourself is though, but yeah its a hard question.


It's considered suicide if its the 100% way to die and you choose it over the 99.99999999999% chance to die
how reasonable is it to eat off wood instead of your tummy?
LonelyMargarita
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
1845 Posts
September 15 2007 09:24 GMT
#24
On September 15 2007 12:52 decafchicken wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 15 2007 12:40 il0seonpurpose wrote:
It said in the bible that nothing can seperate you from the love of God, so I guess God would accept you, I mean if you think about it...


Burning in flames for 2 minutes isnt considered suicide really, you can't help it!

Throwing yourself is though, but yeah its a hard question.


It's considered suicide if its the 100% way to die and you choose it over the 99.99999999999% chance to die


In that case the people that jumped did not commit suicide, as people have survived longer falls.
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xM(Z
Profile Joined November 2006
Romania5299 Posts
September 15 2007 12:15 GMT
#25
i loled at this thread
the action in question (the jump) does not matter. what matter is the mind set in which that occurs.
i will not write half a page of explanations instead i'll leave you to contemplate an example: a guy puts a gun to his head, pulls the trigger but does not die. from the fact that he (could have) survived and by your logic the guy would go to heaven.
cheers.
And my fury stands ready. I bring all your plans to nought. My bleak heart beats steady. 'Tis you whom I have sought.
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