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Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 10 2007 03:07 GMT
#1
This season I have decided to mass game in order to get better. This is my third day doing this season as I am not allowed to play except on Friday/Saturday/Sunday due to school. Last season I played 16 games 1x1 and 25 games 2x2, this season I plan to play at least 200-400 games.

On Friday I played about 7 games, 1 win and 6 losses.
On Saturday I played about 40 games. I had a losing streak of about 17 games but then I was able to win about 14 games out of the remaining 23 games.
Today it is getting easier, I've played about 12 games and won about 8 of them. So my record is 21-38, 1775. I'm hoping to get D+ by tonight.

ZvZ: 4-8 (33%)

ZvP: 12-19 (39%)

ZvT: 5-11 (31%)

So most of my matchups are fairly even. Most of my losses versus protoss were 2 gate zealots and corsair/reaver, vs. Terran it was mostly marine pressure into expand (I've been trying to use 12 pool a lot due to a ton of BBS and bunker rushes, it's worked quite well. Earlier I was somewhat 2-8 but with 12 pool I've won 3 games out of 6.
Versus zerg it's mostly a micro problem vs scourge.

So my apm now is:

ZvZ: ~130
ZvT: ~140
ZvP: ~170

out of iCCup I was able to win 2 ZvT and 4 ZvP. I'm happy with the results so far from playing lots of games on iCCup. I'm getting a much larger understanding of the game from a ZvP and PvZ perspective, and a little on ZvZ and ZvT. Sadly I don't have a teacher for those matchups and they are my worst.

I rarely play ZvZ as well, but I've been playing some Random vs Random to further my knowledge of other matchups such as PvT/TvP, etc. I hope that playing a lot will not only increase my skill as a player but give me much more feel for the game and be able to recognize certain things and aspects of the game, thus allowing my future commentaries (which I haven't done much because of high school being very busy) to be much better.

I have recognized my main weaknesses (2 gate zealots where they wall of their ramp and take expo easily after applying good pressure, and from my strategy thread I learned that I have to adapt to them, not have them adapt to me, and 2 gate reaver/sair which my teacher told me how to counter better)

I still need lots of training ZvZ and ZvT but I don't have anyone to teach me those matchups.

**
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zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 10 2007 03:12 GMT
#2
How do I find out my APM. Link to the program?
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-10 03:19:22
September 10 2007 03:17 GMT
#3
On September 10 2007 12:12 zoLo wrote:
How do I find out my APM. Link to the program?

Bwcoach / Bwchart
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50034
http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59029
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
Manifesto7
Profile Blog Joined November 2002
Osaka27179 Posts
September 10 2007 03:18 GMT
#4
link to every program you need.

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=50034

from the only thread you will ever need:

http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=59029
ModeratorGodfather
Pressure
Profile Blog Joined October 2006
7326 Posts
September 10 2007 03:24 GMT
#5
hmm
just mass game if you want to get better at those matchups and find out which counters which by watching reps... as well as practicing better macro micro(i don't think 130-150 apm works at your level iirc). seems to be the best solution for some people, including me.
zoLo
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States5896 Posts
September 10 2007 03:46 GMT
#6
Thanks for the links guys.
Chill
Profile Blog Joined January 2005
Calgary26004 Posts
September 10 2007 04:42 GMT
#7
Wow good job powering on. I usually play until I lose and then just quit out of frustration. O_o
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Zeenix
Profile Joined May 2007
United States47 Posts
September 10 2007 04:46 GMT
#8
One of those ZvP wins was vs me. Don't know if you remember, but I'm Sc0rpion

:D I played bad ;_;
I like pie.
ShaLLoW[baY]
Profile Blog Joined January 2007
Canada12499 Posts
September 10 2007 04:50 GMT
#9
On September 10 2007 13:46 Zeenix wrote:

:D I played bad ;_;


way to steal his thunder T_T
ALEXISONFIRE ARE FUCKING BACK (sAviOr for life)
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
Last Edited: 2007-09-10 05:09:05
September 10 2007 04:52 GMT
#10
Haha... I remember that game...

D+ now! My goal is C (I like to set high standards so if I don't make it then I'll try harder next time, if not, yey)
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
NZLZerg
Profile Joined September 2007
New Zealand5 Posts
September 10 2007 07:35 GMT
#11
goodluck getting c
Zeenix
Profile Joined May 2007
United States47 Posts
September 10 2007 14:43 GMT
#12
On September 10 2007 13:52 Superiorwolf wrote:
Haha... I remember that game...


If I hadn't tried cannon rushing you with like 4 pylons desperately trying to block you, I would have done a little better

It worked vs some other Zerg so I tried doing it vs you. I positioned it all wrong because I didn't use the pylon to block, but instead just made the pylon next to the hatcery ;(
I like pie.
vstar
Profile Blog Joined April 2007
Korea (South)693 Posts
September 10 2007 19:23 GMT
#13
I should play ICCUP again. I went 6-0 on one account, 1-5 on another. Lol -_-
Yogurt
Profile Blog Joined June 2005
United States4258 Posts
September 10 2007 20:07 GMT
#14
i wish i could game 40 games in a day

thats straight insane

teamliquid takes too much time to look at
ok dont not so good something is something ok ok ok gogogo
Auspicious
Profile Joined August 2007
United States175 Posts
September 10 2007 22:57 GMT
#15
40 games a day would slay me :[
You don't fuck around with the infinite.
MoNKeYSpanKeR
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States2869 Posts
September 11 2007 01:27 GMT
#16
hmm superiorwolf, if you want i can help you out a bit with your ZvT, i'm not pro or anything, but since i'm probably better then you i might be able to help you out. my ICCup 1on1 stats are combined (from last season) about 10-3? something like that, but it was spread and i didn't really care. Either way if you want some help.

Aim = linkinparrk2289
MSN = linkinparrk2289@hotmail.com

also i'm monkeyspanker on hamachi :D
<3's Mani and Seraphim, thx for the second chance. TSL Name: TSL-mSLeGenD
Superiorwolf
Profile Blog Joined March 2007
United States5509 Posts
September 11 2007 02:18 GMT
#17
Sweet I added you, I play 2x2 too maybe we could be a team sometimes if you're on
Check out my stream at www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=315053 and follow me on Twitter @EGSuppy! :)
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