Homosexuality

Ideally love should not be based on what gender someone is

On August 10 2007 16:11 x_woof_x wrote:
so im guessing you really didnt mean what you said in your last blog post.

anways.. nice post, althought i was too lazy to read all the "view of homosexual christian and ex-homosexual christian"

On August 10 2007 16:45 H_ wrote:
If your set of beliefs blinds you and dictates your life to the extent that you think homosexuality is wrong despite the fact you have zero experience with it whatsoever, maybe you should step back and inspect what values you hold close to you.



I don't understand how you can show understanding of that fact and then completely disregard it for the sake of staying Christian.

On August 10 2007 16:45 H_ wrote:
If your set of beliefs blinds you and dictates your life to the extent that you think homosexuality is wrong despite the fact you have zero experience with it whatsoever, maybe you should step back and inspect what values you hold close to you.

On August 10 2007 17:06 RebelHeart wrote:
In fact, did you even read my post at all, or just assumed I was against homosexuality because of the fact that I am a Christian and you didn't go beyond reading the title? What you just wrote was exactly what I addressed in my post, fool.

So my conclusion, based on my own non-experience, is that homosexuality is wrong and we ought to refrain.

On August 10 2007 17:11 H_ wrote:
Do you read what you write? BASED ON YOUR OWN NON-EXPERIENCE? If that isn't an ill-educated point of view, there's no such thing. In fact, that's the dictionary meaning of an ill-educated point of view. If I wanted that, I could just read the bible.

On August 10 2007 17:11 H_ wrote:




Do you read what you write? BASED ON YOUR OWN NON-EXPERIENCE? If that isn't an ill-educated point of view, there's no such thing. In fact, that's the dictionary meaning of an ill-educated point of view. If I wanted that, I could just read the bible.

Edit: I'm editing in an insult because you saw fit to.

Idiot.

On August 10 2007 17:19 H_ wrote:


LOL. I'm not even going to bother taking your bait. That's hilarious. Do you come here often because you have a reputation to maintain? You need to gain "e-Points" with the guys at TL.net by 'winning arguments', huh?

On August 10 2007 17:24 .kaz wrote:
RebelHeart, how is flaming random people for posting in your blog going to help your reputation at all at TL.net? You're just going to have to get re-nuked next month.

On August 10 2007 17:24 jimbob615 wrote:
RebelHeart, ur an idiot, seriously get out more and realise that religion is the one thing that uber nerds like, because it makes them think they are equal in the world.

stop geebing it up with ur stupid bible, none of it exists, it was written by an author, not a god! try and argue back and i would kick u in the teeth... yes i cant prove you wrong, but i can point out the demographic that most people DONT believe in god these days, and also that NERDS believe in god.

hence your arguments are nothing to me. Bye!

On August 10 2007 18:04 Mandalor wrote:
I can't believe you just compared homosexuality with paedophilia and bestiality haha
You realise that the only reason you're not banned yet is your comedy value, right?

On August 10 2007 18:13 micronesia wrote:


Actually as I pointed out you can compare them. Homosexuals shouldn't be blamed for their sexual desires the same way pedophiles or people who like animals (or anything else) shouldn't be blamed for their sexual desires. It's what actions they take based on their desires that can be reasonably debated.

On August 10 2007 18:35 Mandalor wrote:


Well first of all, bestiality is an act. It is not a desire, big difference.

Yet an hour before I wrote:
Um pedophilia and bestiality aren't tendencies. Pedophilia is a preference, and bestiality is an act.

Of course paedophilia and bestiality (as in "liking" animals) is "okay" if those desires don't overcome people. But then again desires always need to be fulfilled, I don't believe there is a single person who can refrain from fulfilling their desires over their whole life.

On August 10 2007 19:14 Aphelion wrote:
Everytime RebelHeart posts something, I lose a little more faith in Humanity.

On April 20 2007 16:09 j0ehoe wrote: so the next time i get shot down at a bar i can shoot the girl? what the fuck?

On August 06 2007 17:13 RebelHeart wrote:


Are you an idiot? I was making the point that government is not the solution, but private investment and capitalism is and the restrictions of government state run monopolies lifted. That's a good step for China.

On July 24 2007 14:36 RebelHeart wrote:


oh my God you are a fucking piece of shit

On May 26 2007 16:36 RebelHeart wrote:


The post and its photos was a piss-take, if you think I was serious in the coverage of it then you are a fucking idiot. Do you think the people who made the photoshopped images of Cho were trying to give a serious indictment on how he was affected by the rich kids? And fuck I wouldn't call the death penalty and all its safeguards in the US too loose, compared to arbitrary killing of potential political opponents.



For fucks sake, stop setting up bullshit strawmen arguments. But even if that was what I was saying, they fucking said it themselves you idiot, and as a result were run over by tanks and mass murdered and tortured. Who the fuck are you to say what they stood up for wasn't worth fighting for?

On May 08 2007 18:08 RebelHeart wrote:
girls are for fucking, not playing computer games with. if you want to play computer games seriously and strategically you find a guy

On August 10 2007 19:47 micronesia wrote:


You gonna claim that was intentional?

I don't agree with you. You can have an unsavory desire yet never do anything that actually hurts the well being of a child/animal/etc.

On August 10 2007 18:04 Mandalor wrote:
I can't believe you just compared homosexuality with paedophilia and bestiality haha
You realise that the only reason you're not banned yet is your comedy value, right?

On August 10 2007 22:59 Cpt Obvious wrote:
Aphelion, I agree with you.

Rebelheart, you are so full of shit, it's not even funny anymore. You change your opinion on subejcts in the blink of an eye, your horizon goes as far as the next supermarket, and you have the open-mindedness of brain-amputated chipmunk.

It is people like you who make the American people look like a bunch of retarded narrowminds who can't think past their city borders and think Iraq is a continent and that Europe is just "some country across that sea".

On August 11 2007 00:34 Cpt Obvious wrote:
I just made an idiot out of myself by not checking before pompously claiming the guy was American.
My sincere apologies to the American people, that was unfair and pretty narrow-minded of myself. I owe you a beer, guys.

On August 11 2007 00:30 Hawk wrote:
I'd rather be adopted by gay parents that were 100% sure they were gay than be born to some dipshit who was led by a bunch of other dipshits in church to believe that being gay was wrong.

On August 10 2007 16:31 MarklarMarklar wrote:
rebelheart you sound like a enormous douchebag

just letting you know

*edit*

got tempbanned for this, it was worth it.

On August 11 2007 00:34 Cpt Obvious wrote:
I just made an idiot out of myself by not checking before pompously claiming the guy was American.
My sincere apologies to the American people, that was unfair and pretty narrow-minded of myself. I owe you a beer, guys.

On August 11 2007 01:10 NonY[rC] wrote:
If a Christian homosexual feels guilty about his homosexuality, then he's fine. He'll probably never be able to get rid of his homosexual impulses, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad Christian. He's only a bad Christian if he does not seek forgiveness for his sins. Men are supposed to sin and ask for forgiveness. They're expected to resist sinning as much as possible, but seeing as how homosexuality can be so strong and natural, it's unlikely that many will succeed. However there is nothing special about it. Most Christians have at least one sin that they have never been able to fully control. Sins in themselves do not exclude anyone from Christianity or Heaven, else nobody would be a Christian or going to Heaven.

The problem occurs when a person identifies himself as a Christian and as a homosexual and feels no guilt about his homosexuality. In that case, the person must choose between Christianity and homosexuality. Homosexuality simply cannot be classified as sin-free behavior. Either that person must realize he is sinning and ask forgiveness from God, or he must abandon God.

“And again I say unto you, It is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle, than for a rich man to enter into the kingdom of God.” (Mt. 19:24)

On August 11 2007 01:10 NonY[rC] wrote:
If a Christian homosexual feels guilty about his homosexuality, then he's fine. He'll probably never be able to get rid of his homosexual impulses, but that doesn't necessarily mean he's a bad Christian. He's only a bad Christian if he does not seek forgiveness for his sins. Men are supposed to sin and ask for forgiveness. They're expected to resist sinning as much as possible, but seeing as how homosexuality can be so strong and natural, it's unlikely that many will succeed. However there is nothing special about it. Most Christians have at least one sin that they have never been able to fully control. Sins in themselves do not exclude anyone from Christianity or Heaven, else nobody would be a Christian or going to Heaven.

The problem occurs when a person identifies himself as a Christian and as a homosexual and feels no guilt about his homosexuality. In that case, the person must choose between Christianity and homosexuality. Homosexuality simply cannot be classified as sin-free behavior. Either that person must realize he is sinning and ask forgiveness from God, or he must abandon God.

On August 11 2007 02:31 WhatisProtoss wrote:
God says that homosexuality is immoral and a sin. Then, obviously, homosexuals are not welcome in Christianity.

God says that murder is a sin. Then, murderers are not welcome in Christianity.

On August 11 2007 02:36 Sadist wrote:


thats bull imo

having to feel guilty about something as important to you as your wife/male "partner"(thats such a shitty word imo) is pretty damn lame. Its not like something you could feel guilty about on a whim, it would be staring you in the face every day. Sorry but its just ridiculous.

On August 11 2007 02:43 WhatisProtoss wrote:
I think homosexuality is largely because of upbringing and surroundings.

I grew up on a farm. You never see any homosexuals in rural places. I was shocked when I went to Boston and saw the huge gay communities. It's weird how in the Bible it also shows this trend. Sodom and Gomorrah were the largest cities around. Abraham opted to live away from the city and in the countryside (something that was advocated to the Israelites: live in the country). His cousin, Lot, decided to live in Sodom and was exposed to the huge gay communities there.

On August 11 2007 02:58 Brutalisk wrote:
Homosexuality is natural, it's not a sin. Some animals are homosexual too. It's a psychological issue. People/animals aren't born that way. And no it's also not a disease. It's also nothing to feel guilty about, although I guess that life must suck for homosexuals because it's so common to make fun of them.

Besides, that "be fruitful and multiply" bible shit is getting dangerous these days because of overpopulation / limit on earth's resources. If anyone would get 5-10 kids we would have birth control already.

Talk about Christians being nice, tolerant and so on... lol. You have no idea what's natural or unnatural or "a sin".

On August 11 2007 03:12 SuperJongMan wrote:
Ahahahahaha... As soon as I heard this, I thought you were turning queer.
Sadly when I saw a wall of text, my brain shut down and I stopped caring.

Sigh, you had me so hyped up and you let me down. T.T

Now you guys talkin about fags and sin... the discussion just got 10x more stale for me.

On August 11 2007 02:58 Brutalisk wrote:
Homosexuality is natural

On August 11 2007 02:43 WhatisProtoss wrote:
I think homosexuality is largely because of upbringing and surroundings.

The black community has the highest rates of fatherless homes and the highest rates of homosexuality

On August 11 2007 03:18 WhatisProtoss wrote:

Whoa, fags? I think somebody deserves a tempban.

On August 11 2007 03:11 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Sin is a Christian thing. I'd think that the Bible dictates what is or is not a sin.

Homosexuality is explicitly defined in the Bible as a sin. Natural or unnatural, that's up to you to debate. But the Bible doesn't say "The fact that something is natural makes it acceptable."

Christians are supposed to be tolerant of sin? That's the last low blow that nonbelievers say to believers: "I thought Christians were supposed to be nice."

You have no idea of what the Bible says, so you try to say what is a sin or not. In the laws of Brutalisk, homosexuality is not a sin. In the laws of God, homosexuality is a sin. Who's laws are we talking about here? God's or Brutalisk's?

On August 11 2007 03:49 WhatisProtoss wrote:
Yeah, I agree with you now, Brutalisk.

I think a lot of Christians use the argument that homosexuality is unnatural and unthinkable for people living a clean wholesome life. But it is undeniable that it actually HAPPENS.

And then Christians try to say that you never see homosexuality in the animal kingdom. Yep, we've seen that too.

I don't think God's laws are based on the natural and the unnatural. You see murderers in both human and animal worlds. You see male lions have multiple wives (something un-Christian). You see tigers hunt boars (pork). Christians need to find better arguments against such things. I think it's best if they just say, "Homosexuality is a sin, no strings attached. If you want to be Christian, don't be a homosexual. If you don't like that, make your own God."

I think it just gets messy and complicated when people try to make weird and intricate arguments.

On August 11 2007 04:03 FatRine wrote:



Maybe god should update his writings and add some stuff that clears all that up.

I mean arguements for why christianity and the bible is bullshit seems to be stacking up, and god's words seems to not be capable of sustaining it.

Now wait a minute, maybe god DIDNT write the bible, and its all made up?!

On August 11 2007 04:07 WhatisProtoss wrote:

Actually, even atheists agree... if you accept what the Bible has to say, then it fits together quite well. There are very little holes to probe into. What makes the Bible seem crazy are the idiotic, biased Christians who try to defend it. Find a smart Christian somewhere and I'll listen to him gladly.

Evolution on the other hand, is still "evolving" because it has a lot of holes in its theory. There are many contradictions in it as opposed to the Bible.

On August 11 2007 04:10 FatRine wrote:


i'll gladly see you show me those atheists that think the bible makes sense and fits together "quite well".

Cause i've heard christians say those things quite alot, but ive never really known why. I think it's a myth to be honest.

And evolution has no holes, it's past the stage of a theory. It's teached as fact all over the world.

On August 11 2007 04:16 WhatisProtoss wrote:

I don't feel like talking with somebody who says "teached as a fact." Sorry.

Instead of throwing vague thoughts out, try asking a question. If you believe that the Bible doesn't make sense, then instead of saying that you think it's a myth, give a real example. But I'm not sure you're capable of doing that.

On August 11 2007 04:48 FatRine wrote:

And I'm not going to try to give examples(especially in this blog) as you are probably uninterested or unaffected by them. You do not seem like the type of person who is trying to disapprove your religion(or anything) for the sake of making sure what you believe is correct.

On August 11 2007 04:57 WhatisProtoss wrote:

My religion? If you have actually read anything that I have written, you'll see that I am a critic of stupidity, not a defender of religion. Go and read.

And stop posting stupid pictures. Ugly lamb. -_-;

On August 11 2007 05:04 FatRine wrote:


i thought you were a christian, mainly from the stupid as hell idea you had that sexual orientation stems from your surroundings.

On August 11 2007 05:17 Wizard[pl] wrote:


I'm sure if you were adopted and lived with gay 'parents' for 18 years you wouldn't be influence at ALL.

On August 11 2007 05:40 FatRine wrote:


Your intelligence goes below the lowest measured in this thread as of yet. If you think sexual orientation is just something trendy, then great. Believe in fairytales while you're at it.

wait..you're a christian arnt you?

On August 11 2007 05:50 Wizard[pl] wrote:


No, you fail. Don't twist stuff around: this wasn't about trends, I was referring to the surroundings part of your statement.

The problem is that the debate on homosexuality is still raging: is it learned or is it biological?

Unfourtantly, unless your a psychologist with a doctorate, you can't honestly try to convince me that it's one or the other, no matter what your opinion. Because as far as I know the way you write and try to accuse me of having low intelligence only shows your some pimple-faced fat kid sitting in his chair trying to prove yourself to the world. Stop it. Now.

On August 11 2007 05:41 BalloonFight wrote:
Ok RebelHeart here's a new idea for you're next blog post:

Dinosaurs and the Bible.

On August 11 2007 06:02 FatRine wrote:
let's settle if theres nothing to settle mano-a-mano if u know what i mean

On August 11 2007 04:25 WhatisProtoss wrote:

Hm. I'm not really into big boobs. Big boobs probably means the girl is fat (or will become fat). Unless she has had surgery.

I had a big-boobed girlfriend once. She was damn hard to hug, felt like we had a big balloon between us. Small-boobed girls allow for close hugs. =P

On August 10 2007 18:13 micronesia wrote:


Actually as I pointed out you can compare them. Homosexuals shouldn't be blamed for their sexual desires the same way pedophiles or people who like animals (or anything else) shouldn't be blamed for their sexual desires. It's what actions they take based on their desires that can be reasonably debated.

On August 10 2007 17:04 RebelHeart wrote:
Do you know what Christianity is about? It's not all focused on sex. It's more about loving God and loving your neighbour, and while it's not necessary to know God to love your neighbour, it's definitely more emphasised when you are a Christian (eg. you must love your neighbour even if they're your enemy, whereas generally non-Christians will say you can make an exception for not loving yourr neighbour if they are your enemy because they don't have a "Higher Authority" to be accountable to).

On August 11 2007 10:37 Mindcrime wrote:
If you need to feel that there is some authority figure watching over you in order to act as a moral human being then you have a problem.

On August 11 2007 10:53 RebelHeart wrote:


And if you don't need to feel that there is some authority figure watching over you in order to act as a moral human being then you have a problem.

On August 11 2007 10:53 RebelHeart wrote:


And if you don't need to feel that there is some authority figure watching over you in order to act as a moral human being then you have a problem.

On August 11 2007 11:42 Mindcrime wrote:


You act moral because you fear eternal damnation. I act moral as a moral human being because it is the right thing to do. Think about that.

On August 11 2007 12:17 TesisMech wrote:

Your making it sounds like Christians are following Jesus cause of fear which is not true

On August 10 2007 17:04 RebelHeart wrote:
generally non-Christians will say you can make an exception for not loving yourr neighbour if they are your enemy because they don't have a "Higher Authority" to be accountable to).

On August 11 2007 12:17 TesisMech wrote:

Your making it sounds like Christians are following Jesus cause of fear which is not true

On August 11 2007 12:17 TesisMech wrote:

Your making it sounds like Christians are following Jesus cause of fear which is not true

On August 11 2007 14:31 Mora wrote:
[...] and recieving his love in return is more important to you than having a cock rammed into your ass.

On August 11 2007 13:18 Coagulation wrote:


Think about it from outside the box son. thats ALL religion is. A TOOL to control the masses with FEAR.