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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
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x_woof_x
United States659 Posts
anways.. nice post, althought i was too lazy to read all the "view of homosexual christian and ex-homosexual christian" | ||
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MarklarMarklar
Fiji1823 Posts
just letting you know *edit* got tempbanned for this, it was worth it. | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
Ideally love should not be based on what gender someone is I don't understand how you can show understanding of that fact and then completely disregard it for the sake of staying Christian. | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 16:11 x_woof_x wrote: so im guessing you really didnt mean what you said in your last blog post. anways.. nice post, althought i was too lazy to read all the "view of homosexual christian and ex-homosexual christian" About having all my posts nuked? I intended to keep posting on this forum, I just wanted my previous posts deleted and start a new account so that people would stop bringing them up. I was annoyed because someone had collected a bunch of posts I'd made and sent them to a moderator (the second time it's happened), I don't know exactly what the situation was but I'm guessing it was an attempt to make it look like I had posted them recently so that I'd get banned. | ||
LosingID8
CA10825 Posts
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 16:45 H_ wrote: If your set of beliefs blinds you and dictates your life to the extent that you think homosexuality is wrong despite the fact you have zero experience with it whatsoever, maybe you should step back and inspect what values you hold close to you. I don't understand how you can show understanding of that fact and then completely disregard it for the sake of staying Christian. Do you know what Christianity is about? It's not all focused on sex. It's more about loving God and loving your neighbour, and while it's not necessary to know God to love your neighbour, it's definitely more emphasised when you are a Christian (eg. you must love your neighbour even if they're your enemy, whereas generally non-Christians will say you can make an exception for not loving yourr neighbour if they are your enemy because they don't have a "Higher Authority" to be accountable to). You have to give up some things, for something greater. And if you even read my post you'd realise I wasn't judging homosexuality, I am merely saying I believe it is a sin based on what the Bible says. I could lie and say "I believe the Bible says homosexuality is OK" and ignore all the verses that say it's a sin. I didn't write it, if I wrote it I'd make homosexuality OK. But I'd probably screw up a whole bunch of other parts, so I'll trust God has it right. The fact that I'm not attracted to men helps me from refraining from it so I can't speak on behalf of homosexual Christians. Edit: And you know, some countries believe it's OK to kill people if they do something really bad (e.g. US death penalty), and others (like our country) think it's wrong no matter what they've done. Does that mean someone who's family member was not a victim of a crime has no right to speak out against the death penalty, because they don't know what it's like to have their family member murdered? | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 16:45 H_ wrote: If your set of beliefs blinds you and dictates your life to the extent that you think homosexuality is wrong despite the fact you have zero experience with it whatsoever, maybe you should step back and inspect what values you hold close to you. In fact, did you even read my post at all, or just assumed I was against homosexuality because of the fact that I am a Christian and you didn't go beyond reading the title? What you just wrote was exactly what I addressed in my post, fool. | ||
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.kaz
1963 Posts
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:06 RebelHeart wrote: In fact, did you even read my post at all, or just assumed I was against homosexuality because of the fact that I am a Christian and you didn't go beyond reading the title? What you just wrote was exactly what I addressed in my post, fool. So my conclusion, based on my own non-experience, is that homosexuality is wrong and we ought to refrain. Do you read what you write? BASED ON YOUR OWN NON-EXPERIENCE? If that isn't an ill-educated point of view, there's no such thing. In fact, that's the dictionary meaning of an ill-educated point of view. If I wanted that, I could just read the bible. Edit: I'm editing in an insult because you saw fit to. Idiot. | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:11 H_ wrote: Do you read what you write? BASED ON YOUR OWN NON-EXPERIENCE? If that isn't an ill-educated point of view, there's no such thing. In fact, that's the dictionary meaning of an ill-educated point of view. If I wanted that, I could just read the bible. Are you an idiot? I made the point very clear that I would probably have different views if I was a homosexual. Like the example I gave above, if I'd never had a family member murdered before, does that make it so that I have no right to speak out against the death penalty, with the condition that my point of view would probably be different if had had someone I knew killed by a murderer? Man you're ignorant. It's pathetic you have to quote my posts out of context in order to win the argument. | ||
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H
New Zealand6138 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:16 RebelHeart wrote: win the argument. LOL. I'm not even going to bother taking your bait. That's hilarious. Do you come here often because you have a reputation to maintain? You need to gain "e-Points" with the guys at TL.net by 'winning arguments', huh? | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:11 H_ wrote: Do you read what you write? BASED ON YOUR OWN NON-EXPERIENCE? If that isn't an ill-educated point of view, there's no such thing. In fact, that's the dictionary meaning of an ill-educated point of view. If I wanted that, I could just read the bible. Edit: I'm editing in an insult because you saw fit to. Idiot. Idiot x 2. If you bothered to post beyond the very first sentence of my conclusion, you would see that the very next sentence says BUT BECAUSE I DON'T HAVE ANY EXPERIENCE... "If tomorrow for some reason I wake up and I'm in a new world, where homosexuals produce offspring, and being hetereosexual is a sin, but I still retained my own feelings for the opposite gender, would I still be a Christian? I don't know. I'd like to think that I could say, Christianity is more than sex, and if that is what I have to give up to be a child of God, I would still do it because I care about the other aspects of Christianity, such as caring for the poor, more than my own sexual desires. But then again, maybe I would be thinking, I'd rather have sex with women and help poor people and not know God, than know God and abstain from relationships." Idiot. | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:19 H_ wrote: LOL. I'm not even going to bother taking your bait. That's hilarious. Do you come here often because you have a reputation to maintain? You need to gain "e-Points" with the guys at TL.net by 'winning arguments', huh? And here you go trying to change the topic into something else because you realise you wrote absolute crap that couldn't stand up to the argument. The classic loser's maneuver in exiting a debate without looking like you lost - change the topic and ignore rebutting the argument, claiming it's "not worth taking the bait". | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
"So I think every Christian who expects a homosexual to be a Christian and refrain from their sexual desires ought also make a vow never to have a partner for the rest of their lives just to see how hard it can be and how it's not as simple as that." "I believe it's a decision each person must make depending on where their priorities lie." "I don't really know what my stance on homosexuality is." "I don't know what it's like 'cos I'm not a homosexual." "If tomorrow for some reason I wake up and I'm in a new world, where homosexuals produce offspring, and being hetereosexual is a sin, but I still retained my own feelings for the opposite gender, would I still be a Christian? I don't know... maybe I would be thinking, I'd rather have sex with women and help poor people and not know God, than know God and abstain from relationships." How bloody obvious do I have to make it? | ||
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.kaz
1963 Posts
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jimbob615
Uruguay455 Posts
stop geebing it up with ur stupid bible, none of it exists, it was written by an author, not a god! try and argue back and i would kick u in the teeth... yes i cant prove you wrong, but i can point out the demographic that most people DONT believe in god these days, and also that NERDS believe in god. hence your arguments are nothing to me. Bye! | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:24 .kaz wrote: RebelHeart, how is flaming random people for posting in your blog going to help your reputation at all at TL.net? You're just going to have to get re-nuked next month. I guess I just have to remind myself that I'm arguing with some immature people who take one sentence from a post for the sake of making a prejudiced argument out of it, pretending the rest of the post didn't say anything to address it. | ||
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RebelHeart
New Zealand722 Posts
On August 10 2007 17:24 jimbob615 wrote: RebelHeart, ur an idiot, seriously get out more and realise that religion is the one thing that uber nerds like, because it makes them think they are equal in the world. stop geebing it up with ur stupid bible, none of it exists, it was written by an author, not a god! try and argue back and i would kick u in the teeth... yes i cant prove you wrong, but i can point out the demographic that most people DONT believe in god these days, and also that NERDS believe in god. hence your arguments are nothing to me. Bye! I'm going to argue back simply to make you want to kick me in the teeth but being unable to. I didn't ask anyone to prove me wrong, what a strawman. Wow, you can point out that because the majority of people believe something is wrong, the minority must be wrong? Nerds are so uncool. I better not hang out with them 'cos it'll affect my reputation as a jock. Edit: LOL OK so you were taking the piss. Good post  | ||
micronesia
United States24641 Posts
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