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linestein
Profile Blog Joined June 2018
United States210 Posts
February 06 2020 03:06 GMT
#1
Do you know how fast you can write on a keyboard? You can write like 180 words per minute. Do you know how fast you can read? No faster than you read in 319 BC.

No matter how fast we write we'll always read at the same speed. Some people literally read at 200 WPM. That's the average person and they do it with 60% comprehension. That means they're literally reading as fast as I type.

Do you know most people literally read at the same speed I read and write? Can you fucking believe that? I can honest-to-god read a sentence and type the sentence at the same time just as fast the average person can read a sentence.

It's so real dude. I realized that when I was generating 6000 words a day the average person was reading 5 minutes a day. At 120 WPM they were reading literally 720 words of the 6000 I was writing.



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"You can wish to be rich, you can wish to be tall. You can wish away the haters, you just gimme a call" ---Will Smith & DJ Khaled "Friend Like Me (End Title)"
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 06 2020 06:54 GMT
#2
Did you know that you can listen faster than you can talk?
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
art_of_turtle
Profile Blog Joined September 2012
United States1183 Posts
February 06 2020 23:57 GMT
#3
But can you reach 180 EAPM?
Flash should fear Sacsri
WombaT
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Northern Ireland25091 Posts
February 07 2020 10:32 GMT
#4
Argh, now I have to work out how much of my daily TL output takes and how much of it is actually read by anyone
'You'll always be the cuddly marsupial of my heart, despite the inherent flaws of your ancestry' - Squat
Greth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Belgium318 Posts
February 07 2020 13:54 GMT
#5
On February 07 2020 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Argh, now I have to work out how much of my daily TL output takes and how much of it is actually read by anyone


Getting a little real for me there...
http://youtube.com/grethsc
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
February 07 2020 14:07 GMT
#6
On February 07 2020 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Argh, now I have to work out how much of my daily TL output takes and how much of it is actually read by anyone

I don't have to worry about that, thankfully. I know that Wombat_NI will happen to read my whiskey-fueled rants.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 07 2020 14:27 GMT
#7
On February 07 2020 19:32 Wombat_NI wrote:
Argh, now I have to work out how much of my daily TL output takes and how much of it is actually read by anyone


I try not to think about it
Writerhttp://i.imgur.com/9p6ufcB.jpg
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 07 2020 17:50 GMT
#8
Even with all these limitations on how much we can realistically consume, the trend is to pack as much filler garbage into everything as possible.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
winlessplayer
Profile Blog Joined November 2018
43 Posts
February 07 2020 19:04 GMT
#9
Should I think some of that and the replies could be linked to me? Probably just me being paranoid.
Chef
Profile Blog Joined August 2005
10810 Posts
February 07 2020 19:38 GMT
#10
On February 08 2020 04:04 winlessplayer wrote:
Should I think some of that and the replies could be linked to me? Probably just me being paranoid.

My reply is not related to your blogs.
LEGEND!! LEGEND!!
linestein
Profile Blog Joined June 2018
United States210 Posts
February 08 2020 01:19 GMT
#11
Speaking as a failed author, the most important aspect of modern writing is the reality that people can only read so fast. Back when people were writing on palimpsests and editing off texts from other authors, we could read at 120 WPM. Today we can read at 120 WPM. If you write any faster than that you're removing people by standard deviations from the population.

What's important is that to read with more than 100% comprehension we have to read more slowly. To read with full comprehension we might even want to read at 60 WPM. Which means the average person might read at roughly 20 WPM.

The upside to this is if you buy a novel for $9.99 you can read a 200,000 word book for roughly 10,000 minutes
"You can wish to be rich, you can wish to be tall. You can wish away the haters, you just gimme a call" ---Will Smith & DJ Khaled "Friend Like Me (End Title)"
Greth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
Belgium318 Posts
February 08 2020 09:04 GMT
#12
On February 08 2020 10:19 linestein wrote:
Speaking as a failed author, the most important aspect of modern writing is the reality that people can only read so fast. Back when people were writing on palimpsests and editing off texts from other authors, we could read at 120 WPM. Today we can read at 120 WPM. If you write any faster than that you're removing people by standard deviations from the population.

What's important is that to read with more than 100% comprehension we have to read more slowly. To read with full comprehension we might even want to read at 60 WPM. Which means the average person might read at roughly 20 WPM.

The upside to this is if you buy a novel for $9.99 you can read a 200,000 word book for roughly 10,000 minutes


What you're saying is ... We need an ELO ranking for reading. Perhaps ebooks can prompt readers after X minutes on events in the book, and if you can't answer them your ranking goes down.

That would also require separate queues for people reading casually and competitively, the former having lower penalties to an unseen 'quick read' rank, alleviated by reading in a book club or with friends.
http://youtube.com/grethsc
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
Last Edited: 2020-02-08 13:30:11
February 08 2020 13:29 GMT
#13
Wow, this is a list of the most dubious "facts" I've ever read.

To make sure have more than 100% comprehension, I read this at 20 WPM.
linestein
Profile Blog Joined June 2018
United States210 Posts
February 09 2020 07:27 GMT
#14
On February 08 2020 18:04 Greth wrote:
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On February 08 2020 10:19 linestein wrote:
Speaking as a failed author, the most important aspect of modern writing is the reality that people can only read so fast. Back when people were writing on palimpsests and editing off texts from other authors, we could read at 120 WPM. Today we can read at 120 WPM. If you write any faster than that you're removing people by standard deviations from the population.

What's important is that to read with more than 100% comprehension we have to read more slowly. To read with full comprehension we might even want to read at 60 WPM. Which means the average person might read at roughly 20 WPM.

The upside to this is if you buy a novel for $9.99 you can read a 200,000 word book for roughly 10,000 minutes


What you're saying is ... We need an ELO ranking for reading. Perhaps ebooks can prompt readers after X minutes on events in the book, and if you can't answer them your ranking goes down.

That would also require separate queues for people reading casually and competitively, the former having lower penalties to an unseen 'quick read' rank, alleviated by reading in a book club or with friends.


A good ELO is just whether you enjoyed what you read. If you read something you did or didn't enjoy and whether it was intense or somehow brought something out of you. You might also consider this is what I did / thought / wrote afterward.
"You can wish to be rich, you can wish to be tall. You can wish away the haters, you just gimme a call" ---Will Smith & DJ Khaled "Friend Like Me (End Title)"
Dingodile
Profile Joined December 2011
4133 Posts
February 09 2020 10:27 GMT
#15
Sure you can read pretty fast but you can understand/remember what you are/were reading?
Grubby | ToD | Moon | Lyn | Sky
Jerubaal
Profile Blog Joined June 2010
United States7684 Posts
February 10 2020 23:00 GMT
#16
On February 09 2020 19:27 Dingodile wrote:
Sure you can read pretty fast but you can understand/remember what you are/were reading?


Why should we listen to someone who got beaten by a dumb bandicoot.
I'm not stupid, a marauder just shot my brain.
Dangermousecatdog
Profile Joined December 2010
United Kingdom7084 Posts
February 12 2020 14:27 GMT
#17
People who read fast tend to understand/remember better. In fact, you can say as they can comprehend better, they naturally read faster. Source: purely anaecdotal.
linestein
Profile Blog Joined June 2018
United States210 Posts
February 14 2020 21:17 GMT
#18
On February 12 2020 23:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
People who read fast tend to understand/remember better. In fact, you can say as they can comprehend better, they naturally read faster. Source: purely anaecdotal.


I actually think that's probably true that people who read faster also read more deeply and get more out of what they read. On the other hand I don't know that they're the best authors.
"You can wish to be rich, you can wish to be tall. You can wish away the haters, you just gimme a call" ---Will Smith & DJ Khaled "Friend Like Me (End Title)"
Nakajin
Profile Blog Joined September 2014
Canada8989 Posts
February 14 2020 22:39 GMT
#19
On February 15 2020 06:17 linestein wrote:
Show nested quote +
On February 12 2020 23:27 Dangermousecatdog wrote:
People who read fast tend to understand/remember better. In fact, you can say as they can comprehend better, they naturally read faster. Source: purely anaecdotal.


I actually think that's probably true that people who read faster also read more deeply and get more out of what they read. On the other hand I don't know that they're the best authors.


It also depend what kind of material you're reading, obviously if it's more of "informational document" then the more you are used to read on the subject the faster it's gonna be/the easier you will understand it since you already kind of know where it's going, what the format is gonna be, you can make link with other information in your heads ect... It's the trope of the office worker to whom you give a piece of paper, they seems to barely take a second to look at it and got all they need out of it.
I'm not quite sure it's the same with fiction since they generally are less "logical", you can't really follow the writer trail of thought to know if the flowers were tulips or daisy, you just have to read it.

Personally as someone who dabble a bit in more theoretical/philosophical text for my studies, it's remarkable how quickly you begin to be able to read those relatively fast. I remember it used to take me over an hour to get 10 pages, now I probably can do it in 30-40 minutes, faster if it's a subject I know well. Obviously, you always have the risk to lose some stuff the faster you go.
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