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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-21 10:19:38
September 21 2018 10:18 GMT
#1
Lately, I wanted to create a reddit account. I'm not into StarCraft anymore, my passion has switched over to CS:GO after having a brief stint in heroes, and nowadays I'm way more online on HLTV.org than I am on here, although teamliquid.net is still a part of the four tabs I open whenever I use a browser.

Upon entering username and email, the app told me that the username was taken, which to be honest never happened to me before. Resetting my password revealed the past: back in 2015, when I had the clash with TotalBiscuit that resulted in him banning himself from tl.net, I had created an account to have some sort of control over the reddit part of the ensued discussion.

I read through that old reddit thread, went back to my own blog that I did, re-read the discussion I had with John back then, and I felt sad. He was already fighting cancer in 2015, if I recall correctly, he had been diagnosed but it wasn't a terminal diagnosis yet.

When I heard he passed away, I was filled with sadness. I realized that his death actually affected me a lot and made me re-think my approach to our conflict, re-think my approach to people in general. Things suddenly feel unimportant, they lose all gravity when you realize that the person you've fought with is dead. We had no personal relationship, nothing at all, but my words affected him and his words affected me.

I played around with the idea of writing this, I hesistated a lot, because who'd care really? It wouldn't bring back John nor would it help any of his loved ones to cope with their losses. It would only help me, thus being somewhat selfish. I never realized how much my time on here actually formed me as a person. I grew a lot ever since 2012, when I became father, and now I'm almost 30 years old, working a normal life as a half technical, half business consultant, everything has normalized a lot and things are going, well, one would even say, boring.

So, what I basically want to do here is to express my feelings towards teamliquid.net and the people running the site, running the team, running this sort of community, and of course towards the people I spent so much time with back then, be it my abysmal mafia performances, my not-as-funny-as-I-thought LR comments, or all the warnings and bans I caught. Visiting ESL One Cologne with Gumba still counts as one of the best memories of my life, meeting Apollo, HerO, seeing Jaedong cry, and that awesome final. There's no way this would've been possible without all the amazing people on here.

Including John. When I realized my blog had hit 15k views, people were talking (bashing) me on reddit, adrenaline rushed my veins. It is a super weird feeling to get insulted by a lot of people you don't even know (and getting positive feedback, as well). Being a person of the public, which I was for roughly 2 days, was an experience I'd never want to miss, and although it was super negative in the beginning, I wouldn't want to miss it now. It helped me so much to grow as a person in reality as well as growing as a person on the internet. It sounds weird to differentiate this, but I'm sure that people on the internet behave way differently than they'd do in real life. I regret, I so regret calling John out when he already had cancer. I mean, just because someone is ill, you shouldn't treat them differently if they don't want it, I know. However, being a genuinely friendly person doesn't cost one too much, and although John played his part in escalating the situation, there's always two people involved and I am the one to blame here. It was my deliberate choice to get in that fight, to not let go, when I probably should've let go.

So - well. Long story short. I miss John. I hope he's in a better place now, I hope his family is alright, and I hope all his friends can find a way to cope with their losses. And I miss teamliquid. My life is not at all boring, my priorities however have changed, so ... I'm only visiting this site for nostalgic reasons. Everyone on here, please take a big thank you for supporting this amazing community, and godspeed to y'all.

Shoutouts to all the amazing people I've grown to admire, such as Olli, Rude_FFW, KadaverBB, Zealously, of course ninazerg, and all the other ones I probably forgot. Oh, and Gumba.

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castleeMg
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
Canada779 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-09-26 18:04:50
September 26 2018 18:03 GMT
#2
Idk u or John or what your confrontation on reddit was about but I don’t think you should feel bad or upset about it if your points were valid which I assume they were because this blog was very down to earth and well written. I know John wasn’t one to shy away from controversy and if your argument was civil and unrelated to his health issues then there’s no reason to feel bad about it.
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JimmiC
Profile Blog Joined May 2011
Canada22817 Posts
September 26 2018 20:38 GMT
#3
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boxerfred
Profile Blog Joined December 2012
Germany8360 Posts
September 30 2018 19:02 GMT
#4
I wouldn't call it guilt, I'd call it regret. Some things aren't worth discussing about, and while life is full of seemingly irrelevant happenings, the discussion with John changed me a lot. I was reflecting more about me as a person for quite some time, and John's death brought that reflection back. Death makes things seem tiny all of a sudden.
ninazerg
Profile Blog Joined October 2009
United States7291 Posts
October 28 2018 07:51 GMT
#5
I don't think you should feel "bad". He was a huge jerk and treated people like trash. Don't misunderstand me, though; I'm definitely not saying he deserved to die. That would be barbaric of me to say. I'm saying while he was alive, he was a prick, and acted all indignant when people called him on it. Everything you said in that blog was true, and he proved it.

Also, nothing you did changed whether or not he lived or died. Everyone is going to die, that's a fact of life. If someone is being a jerk, sometimes, you just lose your patience and say something, regardless of their mortality.
"If two pregnant women get into a fist fight, it's like a mecha-battle between two unborn babies." - Fyodor Dostoevsky
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