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Temporomandibular Joint Disorders, or TMJ for short, causes some real bad headaches. Can cause migraines, headaches, jaw toride (I have these things in my mouth), and in bad cases can cause ligaments in your neck to calcify into bones.
But don't worry! For only 501 payments of $19.95 you can be completely free of all TMJ problems with our new product, TMJ! That's right, the product is called TMJ, just like the disorder!
The TMJ product stands for Tiny Mouth Junk, and it looks like small piece of plastic. Stick it in your mouth and BLAM. Your mouth now hurts a little more than it did before, but rest assured, it's fixing something slowly and painfully.
Ah who am I kidding. Troll posts are so 2016.
So do any of you guys have frequent headaches? I'm assuming a lot more of us are more adult-ish now so putting some genuine concern into bodily health is more common. I had some pretty chronic headaches for a while. Turns out I needed some skull and jaw realignment therapy, and am going through a lengthy process to adjust my head bones. The problem actually comes from poor tongue posture and poor breathing habits.
I know a lot of you guys are starting to have kids now... So please do a little research and trying learning about mouth breathing and the effects it has on children. Long story short, American style baby bottles and baby food are very bad for children. Many children with baby bottles start exhibiting thumb sucking and mouth breathing. If a baby breast-feeds from the mother they are biologically taught proper nose-breathing. Nose-breathing results in good tongue posture. With proper tongue placement, the tongue applies long-term forces onto the teeth of children, and onto the skull itself. The teeth form around the tongue, and sort of lay in equilibrium with the forces of the cheeks. Good posture will allow the teeth to align properly as a result, which means no need for common braces!
If mouth breathing isn't fixed, children suffer from deformed maxilla bones, misaligned teeth, scoliosis, mishapen skulls, ringing ears, poor airways for the nose, and as a result suffer from terrible headaches, sinus infection problems, and lowered IQ (due to headaches/trouble breathing/less oxygen).
Nowadays I have to pay a shitload of money to specialists to do skull realignment therapy, just to get rid of TMJ inflamation and headaches.
Got a kid that mouth breathes? Sleeps on stomache? Slow eating? Bed wetting? Gummy smile? Head postured forward? Chronic sinus infections, colds or stuffy nose? Tonsil problems? Tired eyes (dark circles or under eyes)? It's a big problem, and they need to see a specialist! Prevention and correction at an early age is much cheaper than at later ages. I had all these symptoms as a young kid, and many of those systems I still have today! Obviously not bed wetting... 
Fight the headaches! Live happy. Don't let your kids suffer.
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I had some of this.
Needed to quit drinking coffee in the evening, it was making me grind my teeth during my sleep.
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On May 27 2017 21:22 travis wrote:
I had some of this.
Needed to quit drinking coffee in the evening, it was making me grind my teeth during my sleep.
Do you drink coffee in the evening out of habit? I'm one of those non-coffee drinkers so I don't understand how bad the addiction can get.
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On May 27 2017 21:27 Disregard wrote:Show nested quote +On May 27 2017 21:22 travis wrote:
I had some of this.
Needed to quit drinking coffee in the evening, it was making me grind my teeth during my sleep. Do you drink coffee in the evening out of habit? I'm one of those non-coffee drinkers so I don't understand how bad the addiction can get.
I've always had energy problems, coffee helps me a lot in motivating me to do things.
It's not really addiction I think. Sometimes I don't drink coffee if there is nothing I want to get done. But most days, especially during the school semester, I have 2 big cups of coffee or 4-5 shots of espresso 
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I used to get regular headaches when i was younger. They're much more rare and not predictable anymore. Unless i stop drinking coffee for a day then the next day i get headache 100%. No migraines or anything serious but i wish i knew what caused them.
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On May 28 2017 05:58 nttea wrote:
I used to get regular headaches when i was younger. They're much more rare and not predictable anymore. Unless i stop drinking coffee for a day then the next day i get headache 100%. No migraines or anything serious but i wish i knew what caused them.
Sounds like caffeine withdrawal?
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On May 28 2017 07:52 frogmelter wrote:Show nested quote +On May 28 2017 05:58 nttea wrote:
I used to get regular headaches when i was younger. They're much more rare and not predictable anymore. Unless i stop drinking coffee for a day then the next day i get headache 100%. No migraines or anything serious but i wish i knew what caused them. Sounds like caffeine withdrawal?
no i know that, i mean the other headaches. Guess it wasn't very clear.
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Kinda funny timing, was suspecting I was getting TMJ a few weeks ago.
Left jaw joint was hurting in the morning and then was sore for the rest of the day for 1 1/2 weeks and I had a slight headache for a few days during that time as well.
luckily it appears to have been a combination of stress and a weird sleeping position. Started sleeping on my back and had a vacation. Problems disappeared during my vacation after said 1 1/2 weeks. Hope the stuff doesnt come back, as these kind of things can easily be a symptom of something more chronic.
I generally can get headaches quite easily, usually caused by:
1) not drinking enough water (trying to get better on that)
2) majorly fucking up my sleep schedule (e.g. not enough sleep during the week, then sleep like 10h from Fr to Sat)
3) both of the above
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I used to think my headaches were caused by not drinking enough water, having an irregular sleep schedule, etc. It can be really hard to differentiate. The major thing is, do the headaches go away *over the long-term* when changing these things? Often times I would drink more water, sleep regularly for a few days, etc. And I would feel like the headaches were minimized.
But, if the headache persists, even a little, over the course of time there is likely a serious problem.
Sleeping on your stomach is extremely bad for you. It causes undue stress on the neck/vertebrae, and worst of all pushes on maxilla bones. Over time it causes the face to take on an unnatural droopy look. This look also can constrict the nasal air-pasages, causing a lot of the symptoms I laid out in the OP.
Mouth breathing and sleeping on stomach are very bad habits.
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On May 31 2017 02:39 CecilSunkure wrote:
I used to think my headaches were caused by not drinking enough water, having an irregular sleep schedule, etc. It can be really hard to differentiate. The major thing is, do the headaches go away *over the long-term* when changing these things? Often times I would drink more water, sleep regularly for a few days, etc. And I would feel like the headaches were minimized.
But, if the headache persists, even a little, over the course of time there is likely a serious problem.
Sleeping on your stomach is extremely bad for you. It causes undue stress on the neck/vertebrae, and worst of all pushes on maxilla bones. Over time it causes the face to take on an unnatural droopy look. This look also can constrict the nasal air-pasages, causing a lot of the symptoms I laid out in the OP.
Mouth breathing and sleeping on stomach are very bad habits.
Nah they don't last that long. Usually like half the day. If it is a bad one, like 1 and a half days. Maybe I should note down how frequent they happen. Also they mainly happen on weekends. This is why I feel it is just due to the fact that my sleeping/drinking habits can deviate quite heavy on weekends compared to the rest of the week. Working on that too.
Good I started sleeping on my back then! =D
edit: in hindsight: maybe the headaches are/were caused by sleeping too long on my stomach on weekends? =D
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Where is your source for all of this?
I sleep on my stomach, I can't even sleep on my back unless I'm extremely tired. My face doesn't drop, I don't have headaches... I'm totally fine.
I probably was fed out of a bottle as a child. Didn't need braces.
Knowing that my anecdotal experience, are there are stats to back up your claims?
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Source is my doctors. I'm not a doctor myself, so sorry I can't really do the research and and prove things here on the forum. If you're interested feel free to try looking up things for yourself. What I'm talking about here has nothing to do with braces, but to do with bone structure. Here's one of my dr's website if you'd like to take a quick peak: http://www.aligneforlife.com/orthodontics-vs-orthotropics/
The downside here is this kind of practice is all quite new in Western society. The west in general is very good at surgery and operations, but as far as general well being and long term health, they are much worse. This is reflected quite a bit in the lack of understanding of jaw and facial growth. That's the idea anyway.
Face does not drop overnight from these kinds of problems, and without doing some preliminary studying it's not possible to identify sunken maxilla. It takes some knowledge. So if you take a look at your face without any knowledge, you will not be able to notice a problem visually.
E: Also some of the more severe cases of jaw/TMJ pain come from bad orthodontic treatments (i.e. bad braces treatments). My girlfriend is one such case. She had some teeth removed when she was really young because all her teeth did not quite fit into her mouth. Her teeth did not quite fit because she had a low maxilla bone structure. Exactly *why* her maxilla was low is unknown, but personally I think it's mostly bad breathing habits. Think about it. What pushes on your facial bones? Well, it's the muscles. The cheek muscles wrap around your face, and pull constantly to make different expressions. So they will over time press inward and push all bone structures inward. The tongue has the job of pressing back to form a force equilibrium. Improper breathing habits directly cause improper tongue placement, which leads to sunken face shapes. Bad breathing habits namely mouth breathing. It's important to breathe through the nose, not the mouth, and have proper tongue posture with breathing, eating and swallowing.
Bad breathing habits seem likely to come from artificial breast feeding bottles, or those little baby binkies.
Anyways, the point is my girlfriend had some teeth removed unnaturally. If she had proper breathing and tongue posture all her teeth would have fit perfectly fine. If she didn't remove any teeth, it would have given her facial bones a chance to grow around them and form well. But now she's going through a long and expensive process to reform her maxilla. And I must say, she has gotten much more attractive since she started the process!
Well formed maxilla makes people look way more attractive.
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Oh there is this one really wacky website that talks about maxilla development. Right now the accepted strategy for treating the droopy maxilla is to get surgery... Which is pretty scary. So there is some active research to figure out ways to expand the maxilla safely without surgery. This one wacky guy crafted a helmet with some rubber bands, and you can take a look at the before and after pictures yourself: http://jawpain-tmjtreatment.com/
Obviously this guy is just doing his own independent thing, and I don't think he's a doctor lol. But it's very interesting nonetheless, especially with the before and after pictures.
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Quite amusing how complicated/delicate the human body is and how many things can go wrong for really weird/hard to figure out reasons.
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I got one of those plastic pieces to help against grinding; it is very expensive as you say, and it wasn t really worth it, other than the fact that it did momentarily help ease the pain coming from the grinding; that was two years ago. What helped me fix this issue, was learning how to relax my body and emotions. Because that eventually led me to not grinding my teeth anymore.
I learned about breathing as well, and a doctor told me to look at how animals breath, like dogs and cats. They do so by using their solar plexus, expanding their stomach area, as opposed to the shoulders/chest area, and that is the correct way of breathing, and how we breath when we sleep. As far as headaches, apart from that period, i' ve never had them, and i believe its because i drink massive amounts of water. I heard that 50% of headaches are caused by poor hydration in the body.
So just learn ways to relax, thats my advice
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you can solve all this for your entire race by just pulling the brains out through the nose and being buried in a pyramid. africans had this technology thousands of years ago. you never see an african with these problems. it's foreign.
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I just tuck the inside my lips into between my teeth when sleeping. Doesn't require me to be in a country with healthcare and doesn't require me to have money.
Pity I can't have similarly cheap and effective solutions for my feet, knees, hips, spine, neck, fingers, and wrists. With luck the inevitable heart attack will help me get rid of those, though.
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I don't know how you would know if you grind your teeth while you sleep. I've got a dentist who thinks I might because my gums are receding in particular places, but short of going to a sleep clinic and having them watch me, I don't know how I would confirm that's the problem. They know that the worst of it comes from some very long orthodontics I had, but they see it getting worse. Then they charge me a fat bill for spending 5 minutes looking in my mouth. Sometimes it just feels really sketchy, no matter how much education you had to become a dentist. There are plenty of careers people study for ages and work really hard and don't get to change fees like that. You end up feeling held hostage, because your teeth are too important to give up. Orthodontics especially seems like the biggest scam, I'm certain very few people actually need it but they will recommend it only for cosmetic reasons, while not telling you about any of the damage it does long-term.
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100% agreed Chef.
Luckily for me my teeth grinding is severe enough, I can wake up cold in the night clenching my jaw. My muscles ache and my teeth ache due to the forces of teeth grinding. This way I know for certain I have jaw clenching problems during sleep.
I would not recommend orthodontics to anyone here. Personally I have seen two specialists, the first was a TMJ specialists and I see him specifically to treat muscle and joint inflammation. Once my jaw is calmed down and finds a decent position, then it's an appropriate time to tackle my underlying problem. Which is misshapen skull structure. Orthodontics do not treat misshapen structures, and thus only change cosmetics leaving underlying problems to persist (aka they only shift the teeth, not the bones holding them). This is why many who visit orthodontists must wear an alignment retainer indefinitely after the braces -- the underlying problem persists and will push the teeth back to their original misalignment! I've had many friends from highschool who had braces, and eventually after some years their teeth shift back to nearly the same original configuration (due to not consistently wearing the retainer, or the retainer not doing its job).
Anyways, if you're not sure if you have grinding clenching, and you don't have any sort of chronic headaches, nor do you have jaw toride, then it's probably not that bad. Personally in this case I would not visit a dentist.
Besides my TMJ specialist, I am seeing a very highly skilled orthotropist. I'll be sure to take some before, after, and some progress pictures. That will be pretty cool
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On June 10 2017 01:38 IskatuMesk wrote:
I just tuck the inside my lips into between my teeth when sleeping.
Oh btw, that's really bad for you. It will exasperate any structural problems you might have.
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