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qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
March 24 2017 00:29 GMT
#1
It’s been about 1.5 years since I retired from Starcraft. Doesn’t feel like that long ago sometimes. Sometimes it feels like a different life. The most random times I’ll think of my days streaming. We had so much fun trolling ladder, scanning the island, playing Amnesia… just all the random little things that happened. Other days I remember a tournament. I remember being on stage, event after event, often to be met only with disappointment. I did ok overall. I carved out a living and a space in this scene for years, but I never stood atop the mountain like I always dreamed of. Before I ever started playing competitively, I imagined myself as the best player in the world. I imagined going to Korea and being ‘that foreigner’.

While I’ll always remember my GSTL all-kill fondly, I never reached my goal. That all-kill was a drop in the bucket compared to what I really wanted. So, with every memory there is disappointment. There is something like regret, but not quite regret. I don’t wish I had done something else with my time. And I understand why I made the decisions I did. I did the best I could given my understanding of how to practice, how to improve. In the end, that didn’t matter. My best wasn’t good enough. So, I look back on those days and imagine how I could’ve been better. I walk through an event in my mind as if it were a replay and look for all the mistakes I made. I’m not talking about my play. I can barely remember that. I’m talking about my mental and physical preparations.

I just didn’t know how to consistently perform at my best, particularly when I had to travel for an event. I’ve learned so much since retiring. I discovered what sort of food I need to eat and how often. I discovered how to sleep well, consistently. I discovered how to improve more consistently. Everyday, I try to improve my habits and understand the world better.

Now, it feels like it’s too late. I’ve moved on. My board game, Aeon’s End has demanded my full attention since retirement and continues to do so. The same improvements I’ve discovered about myself, the same improvements that tell me there’s a chance I could be a pro-gamer again, are the same improvements that have given me so much success with my game that I don’t know if I’d even want to come back.

We’re onto the second Kickstarter, featuring a whole new set of content that greatly expands the base game. Within 3 days we made almost as much as we made in the entire month-long campaign last year. There’s probably a future for me as a long-term designer of Aeon’s End. I can continue to grow the franchise in new and interesting ways because the initial content has been received so well.

I started playing again a few weeks ago. A RL friend had been complaining for months that he wasn’t able to get GM. Finally, I convinced him to take up coaching. When his ZvT lesson came up, I volunteered to be his practice partner. He’s ~5K so I figured it’d be good enough, but I needed to rinse the rust off a bit. I took to the ladder a few days before and remembered how to play this game. After a few quick losses in TvT, I discovered cyclones were… different. A quick peek online gave me the build order for the 2 rax medivac and I felt ready to be a practice partner at least. You can see this lesson with PiG here.

Turns out, I actually like Starcraft. A lot. After the lesson I kept playing on and off, although I don’t have a lot of free time with all the work I have finishing up Aeon’s End for the kickstarter. Fast forward a few weeks and I’ve been pushing around 5.9/6k. I even got a chance to play against Snute on ladder. Predictably, I got crushed, but the game was pretty back and forth. I felt like I even had opportunities to win.

I don’t know what I’ll do next, but I expect to have a fair amount of free time when the kickstarter ends.


****
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
Psyonic_Reaver
Profile Blog Joined June 2007
United States4337 Posts
March 24 2017 00:45 GMT
#2
I'll always remember GosuCoaching House =)

Glad you're able to get back into SC2. I've been getting back in BW myself.
So wait? I'm bad? =(
NovemberstOrm
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Canada16217 Posts
March 24 2017 02:20 GMT
#3
Nice dude, had no idea you working on such a project. Really cool to see it doing well.
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OveRtheStarS
Profile Joined August 2012
Canada69 Posts
March 24 2017 04:45 GMT
#4
I was actually just wondering the other day what you were up to. Glad to see you're keeping busy! It was a nice update.
If everyone loves you, you're not doing it right.
peanuts
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States1225 Posts
March 24 2017 05:13 GMT
#5
Holy shit, that Kickstarter success is amazing! Glad to hear AE is continuing to be such a success for you.

Also, very glad to hear Starcraft is becoming a part of your life again. They always come back.
Writer"My greatest skill is my enjoyment of the game" - Grubby | @TL_Peanuts
EatThePath
Profile Blog Joined September 2009
United States3943 Posts
March 24 2017 08:15 GMT
#6
Aeon's End rocks, hope it goes far for you! Nice to see these updates
Comprehensive strategic intention: DNE
Olli
Profile Blog Joined February 2012
Austria24420 Posts
March 24 2017 09:01 GMT
#7
Great to hear AE is doing so well. And it's nice that you can find time for SCII still!
Administrator"Declaring anything a disaster because aLive popped up out of nowhere is just downright silly."
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
March 24 2017 11:14 GMT
#8
Miss you <3
"not enough rights"
Heyoka
Profile Blog Joined March 2008
Katowice25012 Posts
March 24 2017 11:54 GMT
#9
man you are crushing it with Aeon's End, that's awesome. One of my friends who loves board games was telling me how great it was a few months back too, kind of out of the blue.

I know the kind of issues you wrestle with, there's always a sort of difficulty in making sense of certain areas of your past and realizing you didn't have the knowledge to tackle the challenge, and reconciling the feeling that you do now. In a way though it almost has to play out that way sometimes - because without having that past experience you don't have anything concrete to look at to know what areas you need to work on improving. It becomes an anchor point, and if you had the lessons without it they would float away into space going unlearned. There are certain lessons we just can't learn without experiencing the opposite side, so while it can be hard to deal with seeing unfulfilled goals they are a springboard for future success. It's a needed foundation.
@RealHeyoka | ESL / DreamHack StarCraft Lead
ZenithM
Profile Joined February 2011
France15952 Posts
March 24 2017 13:36 GMT
#10
I'm really glad your game is finding success qxc, inspiring stuff! Best of luck in the future.
ShoCkeyy
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
7815 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-24 14:48:12
March 24 2017 14:47 GMT
#11
Hey man! Glad to see you doing so well, and glad to see you have taken interest in SC again. The game has definitely changed since the first two parts, what 7 years can do to a game lol...

Side note: If you need any advice to have an even more successful kickstarter for board games, I have a friend who ran one, and did really well. https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/firelockgames/blood-and-plunder (He has help from founder of Alienware before buyout by Dell).

Life?
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
March 24 2017 16:08 GMT
#12
On March 24 2017 20:54 Heyoka wrote:
man you are crushing it with Aeon's End, that's awesome. One of my friends who loves board games was telling me how great it was a few months back too, kind of out of the blue.

I know the kind of issues you wrestle with, there's always a sort of difficulty in making sense of certain areas of your past and realizing you didn't have the knowledge to tackle the challenge, and reconciling the feeling that you do now. In a way though it almost has to play out that way sometimes - because without having that past experience you don't have anything concrete to look at to know what areas you need to work on improving. It becomes an anchor point, and if you had the lessons without it they would float away into space going unlearned. There are certain lessons we just can't learn without experiencing the opposite side, so while it can be hard to deal with seeing unfulfilled goals they are a springboard for future success. It's a needed foundation.


Every moment is made up of all our previous moments. That doesn't stop me from wishing I had been better back then. In a way, I guess all the design theorycrafting I did for Starcraft, the custom maps I made in bw/wc3/sc2 all helped prepare me for making Aeon's End.
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
Apom
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
France655 Posts
March 24 2017 19:52 GMT
#13
Hey qxc, I had an opportunity to play Aeon's End (a gaming buddy of mine bought it).

Deck-building is not really up my alley, and I generally dislike open-knowledge cooperative games, so I thought I'd just try it once and move on to something else... Well, I was surprised to actually enjoy it. Not in my top list of board games, but definitely way better than the rest in its category.
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
March 24 2017 22:29 GMT
#14
On March 25 2017 04:52 Apom wrote:
Hey qxc, I had an opportunity to play Aeon's End (a gaming buddy of mine bought it).

Deck-building is not really up my alley, and I generally dislike open-knowledge cooperative games, so I thought I'd just try it once and move on to something else... Well, I was surprised to actually enjoy it. Not in my top list of board games, but definitely way better than the rest in its category.


That's the most grudgingly given praise I've received yet. THANKS =)
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
Antisocialmunky
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States5912 Posts
March 24 2017 23:57 GMT
#15
I still remember meeting your at the last MLG in Anaheim. Glad you are doing well.
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merz
Profile Blog Joined July 2004
Sweden2760 Posts
March 26 2017 07:50 GMT
#16
On March 24 2017 09:29 qxc wrote:
It’s been about 1.5 years since I retired from Starcraft. Doesn’t feel like that long ago sometimes. Sometimes it feels like a different life. The most random times I’ll think of my days streaming. We had so much fun trolling ladder, scanning the island, playing Amnesia… just all the random little things that happened. Other days I remember a tournament. I remember being on stage, event after event, often to be met only with disappointment. I did ok overall. I carved out a living and a space in this scene for years, but I never stood atop the mountain like I always dreamed of. Before I ever started playing competitively, I imagined myself as the best player in the world. I imagined going to Korea and being ‘that foreigner’.

While I’ll always remember my GSTL all-kill fondly, I never reached my goal. That all-kill was a drop in the bucket compared to what I really wanted. So, with every memory there is disappointment. There is something like regret, but not quite regret. I don’t wish I had done something else with my time. And I understand why I made the decisions I did. I did the best I could given my understanding of how to practice, how to improve. In the end, that didn’t matter. My best wasn’t good enough. So, I look back on those days and imagine how I could’ve been better. I walk through an event in my mind as if it were a replay and look for all the mistakes I made. I’m not talking about my play. I can barely remember that. I’m talking about my mental and physical preparations.

I just didn’t know how to consistently perform at my best, particularly when I had to travel for an event. I’ve learned so much since retiring. I discovered what sort of food I need to eat and how often. I discovered how to sleep well, consistently. I discovered how to improve more consistently. Everyday, I try to improve my habits and understand the world better.


Now, it feels like it’s too late. I’ve moved on. My board game, Aeon’s End has demanded my full attention since retirement and continues to do so. The same improvements I’ve discovered about myself, the same improvements that tell me there’s a chance I could be a pro-gamer again, are the same improvements that have given me so much success with my game that I don’t know if I’d even want to come back.

We’re onto the second Kickstarter, featuring a whole new set of content that greatly expands the base game. Within 3 days we made almost as much as we made in the entire month-long campaign last year. There’s probably a future for me as a long-term designer of Aeon’s End. I can continue to grow the franchise in new and interesting ways because the initial content has been received so well.

I started playing again a few weeks ago. A RL friend had been complaining for months that he wasn’t able to get GM. Finally, I convinced him to take up coaching. When his ZvT lesson came up, I volunteered to be his practice partner. He’s ~5K so I figured it’d be good enough, but I needed to rinse the rust off a bit. I took to the ladder a few days before and remembered how to play this game. After a few quick losses in TvT, I discovered cyclones were… different. A quick peek online gave me the build order for the 2 rax medivac and I felt ready to be a practice partner at least. You can see this lesson with PiG here.

Turns out, I actually like Starcraft. A lot. After the lesson I kept playing on and off, although I don’t have a lot of free time with all the work I have finishing up Aeon’s End for the kickstarter. Fast forward a few weeks and I’ve been pushing around 5.9/6k. I even got a chance to play against Snute on ladder. Predictably, I got crushed, but the game was pretty back and forth. I felt like I even had opportunities to win.

I don’t know what I’ll do next, but I expect to have a fair amount of free time when the kickstarter ends.


I get struck with a similiar feeling sometimes. But then again, maybe this is something that actually came out of pro-gaming and not the other way around, maybe coupled with the fact that you actually do get wiser the older you get. Also, I'm not sure the people we were competing against had it much more different (talking about routines and approach to the practice); yet some of them managed to excell above everyone else.

I'm glad your game is going super well! Always thought you were a friendly and super mannered guy All the best.
Winners never quit, quitters never win.
Musicus
Profile Joined August 2011
Germany23576 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-26 15:57:36
March 26 2017 15:57 GMT
#17
Was so impressed when I saw the kickstarter on Twitter a few days ago. Congrats qxc, all the best!
Maru and Serral are probably top 5.
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
March 26 2017 17:31 GMT
#18
Glad to hear Aeon's End is doing so well - I wish you the best.
The experience of being a pro-gamer, no matter how it didn't quite reach the achievements you were looking for, are something to be proud and happy about - you experienced something that has helped you in your coming stages of your life and looks like a career as a game designer.

best wishes on your new endeavour
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
qxc
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
United States550 Posts
Last Edited: 2017-03-27 00:35:43
March 27 2017 00:34 GMT
#19
Thanks for all the well wishes. In only 5 days we managed to surpass our entire funding from the entire campaign last year.

Really excited to see where everything is going.
ProgamerDesigner of Aeon's End
lestye
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States4178 Posts
March 27 2017 09:10 GMT
#20
Congrats on the tremendous success you've had, 2 Kickstarters well over six figures, people must really value the game!

Really loved your old insights on SC2 unit design/balance, its awesome you're able to put that mind into creating something, that people think is so good they'll put up so much money to get more of it. .
"You guys are just edgelords. Embrace your inner weeb desu" -Zergneedsfood
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