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Your Worldview Becomes a Self-Fulfilling-Prophecy!

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ShoCkSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany340 Posts
August 31 2016 09:47 GMT
#1
Hey TL!
Just shot a video on an epiphany that I had tonight that absolutely blew my mind away.

Have you ever thought about how subjective your reality is?...
Have you ever thought about how your reality might be VERY different than the reality of another person?

When You begin looking into different cultures and subcultures,
you will quickly realize that what some person might think of as "normal", can be absolutely repulsive for another.

For example: In the subculture of gaming, playing for dozens of hours a week or taking gaming and the process of improving ones game very seriously is like the most normal thing in the world. Yet, what happens when you surround yourself with people that never have been confronted with competitive gaming? Often, you will get judged/pointed a finger at, be misunderstood.


Where does this stem from? How does this happen? What do YOU believe in?...

Somehow, we create ourselves our OWN reality, and most importantly: We began acting upon it's ideas....

Why is this so crucial to understand?
Because your worldview becomes your very personal self-fulfilling prophecy.

The reality that YOU build yourself manifests over time in your subconciousness, which will eventually trigger your brain to find ways to make that your actual reality.

Let's talk a little bit about this...

Hey Bros!
Just shot a video and thought I'd share it here too, given that this relates extremely well to the
journey of "creating yourself a new reality", which we essentially are all trying to do here
on our path of becoming the natural!

Have you ever thought about how subjective your reality is?...
Have you ever thought about how your reality might be VERY different than the reality of another person?

When You begin looking into different cultures and subcultures,
you will quickly realize that what some person might think of as "normal" can be absolutely repulsive for another.

For example: In the subculture of pickup, approaching is the most "normal thing in the world". Not just that, but it's actually expected. Yet, what happens when you surround yourself with people that never heard of pickup and you approach? Often, you will get judged/pointed a finger at, or maybe even admired.


Where does this stem from? How does this happen? What do YOU believe in?...

Somehow, we create ourselves our OWN reality, and most importantly: We began acting upon it's ideas....

Why is this so crucial to understand?
Because your worldview becomes your very personal self-fulfilling prophecy.

The reality that YOU build yourself manifests over time in your subconciousness, which will eventually trigger your brain to find ways to make that your actual reality.

Let's talk a little bit about this...



***
NaNiwa l facebook/shocksc2 l @shocksc2 l twitch.tv/shocksc2 l Grandmaster Protoss Player
a_flayer
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Netherlands2826 Posts
August 31 2016 14:58 GMT
#2
Ah to be 16 again.
When you came along so righteous with a new national hate, so convincing is the ardor of war and of men, it's harder to breathe than to believe you're a friend. The wars at home, the wars abroad, all soaked in blood and lies and fraud.
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 15:26:07
August 31 2016 15:11 GMT
#3
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.
imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
August 31 2016 16:51 GMT
#4
I think there are limits on what we can perceive as reality and what we as humans can handle. So no i don't believe in an "epic" reality but I do believe in one where the "doors of perception are cleansed," meaning freedom from neurosis and freedom from bad philosophy.
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
August 31 2016 17:07 GMT
#5
On September 01 2016 01:51 imgbaby wrote:
I think there are limits on what we can perceive as reality and what we as humans can handle. So no i don't believe in an "epic" reality but I do believe in one where the "doors of perception are cleansed," meaning freedom from neurosis and freedom from bad philosophy.

Yes there are limits, we aren't living in the Matrix (although I always fantasized about it).

I like that phrase "doors of perception are cleansed". Sometimes our perception is clouded by many things, and cleansing it is a great metaphor.

It can be incredibly difficult though to change our perception. With the media blasting us with false perceptions, and our parents placing old world beliefs, we can struggle to see ourselves in differently.
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17139 Posts
August 31 2016 18:03 GMT
#6
Anthony Robbins move over.

Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18840 Posts
August 31 2016 21:43 GMT
#7
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.

How do you know that reality exists without a lens with which to view it? What is "reality" anyway?
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-08-31 23:46:34
August 31 2016 23:45 GMT
#8
On September 01 2016 06:43 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.

How do you know that reality exists without a lens with which to view it? What is "reality" anyway?


If you're caught in a landslide, there's no escape from reality.?..

maybe open your eyes... look up to the skies and see!
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17139 Posts
September 01 2016 00:04 GMT
#9
i'm just a poor boy.. i need no sympathy
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
farvacola
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
United States18840 Posts
September 01 2016 00:56 GMT
#10
On September 01 2016 08:45 GeckoXp wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 06:43 farvacola wrote:
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.

How do you know that reality exists without a lens with which to view it? What is "reality" anyway?


If you're caught in a landslide, there's no escape from reality.?..

maybe open your eyes... look up to the skies and see!

That is correct.
"when the Dead Kennedys found out they had skinhead fans, they literally wrote a song titled 'Nazi Punks Fuck Off'"
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
September 01 2016 13:00 GMT
#11
On September 01 2016 09:04 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
i'm just a poor boy.. i need no sympathy


because i'm easy come easy go.. little high little low
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada17139 Posts
September 01 2016 13:01 GMT
#12
any way the wind blows .. doesn't really matter to me...
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 05:27:37
September 01 2016 16:36 GMT
#13
On September 01 2016 06:43 farvacola wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.

How do you know that reality exists without a lens with which to view it? What is "reality" anyway?

Objective reality, or objectivity, is "the state or quality of being true even outside of a subject's individual biases, interpretations, feelings, and imaginings."

So reality exists because things happen all around us without the need for it to be observed. A tree will still grow regardless if no one observes the maturity.

However, reality without a lens is meaningless. The Grand Canyon was formed when glaciers of ice moved through Arizona thousands of years ago. No one was there to observe the slow changes. It had no meaning. Now in the present, I view the Grand Canyon with awe and wonder. Its mere presence reminds me how small and insignificant I truly am in the grand scheme of time and space. But that humbling experience doesn't make me feel diminutive or unimportant. Instead, it reminds me that although I won't have a huge impact on Earth, we can still make waves with those around us. At least this was my perception when I went to the Grand Canyon. I gave it meaning.

Reality is how we view everything around us.
ShoCkSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany340 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-01 19:45:35
September 01 2016 19:43 GMT
#14
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.


That's why I did not refer to it as "reality" but "YOUR reality"; Bond to a subject - in that case YOU.


YOUR Reality = Perception = the "lens" YOU're viewing life through - the lens YOU're experiencing "reality" through

Reality = actual reality / objective reality / true nature beyond individual perception; Basically, what's underneath of how you perceive it.



Surely, things like these can be nitpicked, but I think everyone got the gist of it ;P


Oh and by the way, this might proof helpful adding to some of the discussions:





NaNiwa l facebook/shocksc2 l @shocksc2 l twitch.tv/shocksc2 l Grandmaster Protoss Player
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 13:40:02
September 01 2016 21:35 GMT
#15
The problem is that it bends the term "reality". It's not necessarily nitpicking because it makes what you're saying confusing when you use "your reality" as a synonym of "subjective experience". My perception is not my reality, I do not own any sort of reality. My senses give me an artificial, flawed understanding of the world I live in.

This matters because like I said it confuses what you're saying, but people will also inevitably drag it through the mud and come to the conclusion that their reality is just as accurate as any other. There's some people out there who'll say the sun orbits around the Earth, which is flat because I can't see it being spherical from where I stand. Who are you to say that their "reality" is incorrect, if you're comfortable calling it their reality? Their perception never approached anything close to reality.

I think that it's a lot more humbling to understand that everything you see is an artificial construct, your understanding of the world is more wrong than you know, and yet you can navigate it, your perceptions probably anchors you to reality to some extent. That's kind of beautiful.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
September 01 2016 22:24 GMT
#16
On September 02 2016 04:43 ShoCkSC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On September 01 2016 00:11 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
Reality isn't subjective. Our perspective of reality is subjective.

Perception is subjective. Reality is objective.

Perception is the lens we view reality through. That lens is something we develop over time. Its development is affected by everything around us, from mass media to our parents. Experiences in life have profound impact on that lens.

However, everything you say is quite true. We have the ability to alter the lens we view life through, and once we start to shape that lens, we start to change our perception of reality. Change the perception, and you will change your life.


That's why I did not refer to it as "reality" but "YOUR reality"; Bond to a subject - in that case YOU.


YOUR Reality = Perception = the "lens" YOU're viewing life through - the lens YOU're experiencing "reality" through

Reality = actual reality / objective reality / true nature beyond individual perception; Basically, what's underneath of how you perceive it.



Surely, things like these can be nitpicked, but I think everyone got the gist of it ;P


Oh and by the way, this might proof helpful adding to some of the discussions:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V2aUXheBSt8






I've started trying to be present and it feels a lot better. Thanks for sharing.
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
September 01 2016 22:29 GMT
#17
By the way, in regards to the argument about reality, subjectivism is actually a popular stance among philosophers.
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
Jett.Jack.Alvir
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Canada2250 Posts
September 02 2016 05:26 GMT
#18
I understand subjectivism, and I certainly agree to many of its points. However, I still believe there is an objective truth. The problem lies in its usefulness, which I believe to be meaningless.

Our perception, or interpretation, of that truth has meaning. Hence why I chose to be specific about reality and the perception of reality.

I don't have a reality, I only have a perception of reality. Reality will still exist long after I die, and my perception of it might too. Unless I pass on my perception to others, but that is another topic for another debate.
imgbaby
Profile Blog Joined May 2015
158 Posts
September 02 2016 12:41 GMT
#19
On September 02 2016 14:26 Jett.Jack.Alvir wrote:
I understand subjectivism, and I certainly agree to many of its points. However, I still believe there is an objective truth. The problem lies in its usefulness, which I believe to be meaningless.

Our perception, or interpretation, of that truth has meaning. Hence why I chose to be specific about reality and the perception of reality.

I don't have a reality, I only have a perception of reality. Reality will still exist long after I die, and my perception of it might too. Unless I pass on my perception to others, but that is another topic for another debate.


I tend to believe that same thing.
Like a bird on a wire, like a drunk in some midnight choir I have tried in my way to be free
ShoCkSC2
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
Germany340 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-09-02 17:57:25
September 02 2016 17:57 GMT
#20
On September 02 2016 06:35 Djzapz wrote:
The problem is that it bends the term "reality". It's not necessarily nitpicking because it makes what you're saying confusing when you use "your reality" as a synonym of "subjective experience". My perception is not my reality, I do not own any sort of reality. My senses give me an artificial, flawed understanding of the world I live in.

This matters because like I said it confuses what you're saying, but people will also inevitably drag it through the mud and come to the conclusion that their reality is just as accurate as any other. There's some people out there who'll say the sun orbits around the Earth, which is flat because I can't see it being spherical from where I stand. Who are you to say that their "reality" is incorrect, if you're comfortable calling it their reality? Their perception never approached anything close to reality.

I think that it's a lot more humbling to understand that everything you see is an artificial construct, your understanding of the world is more wrong than you know, and yet you can navigate it, your perceptions probably anchors you to reality to some extent. That's kind of beautiful.


I get what you guys are saying - because reality is refering to "actual truth" or the "objective world" lying beyond what we perceive, it might be confusing or rather wrong for me to use the term in that way.

Fair point; But I guess the message was still clear :-)
NaNiwa l facebook/shocksc2 l @shocksc2 l twitch.tv/shocksc2 l Grandmaster Protoss Player
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