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Grumbels
Profile Blog Joined May 2009
Netherlands7031 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-06 23:37:17
February 06 2016 23:18 GMT
#1
Writing this to complain about my football match this evening...

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I have a friend from university that sometimes invites me to futsal games with some miscellaneous other people from the university Futsal group where I still play. They are weekly games versus a local team, -- I don't really know who they are, but they're all a bit older and not typically very athletic. It's not a very fair match-up, the four times that I played before today we all managed to win comfortably using superior athletic ability and technical skills.

We used to play at a gymnastics center with an appropriately sized hall suitable for various things like futsal, basketball, indoors hockey, handball. The normal match-up is five vs five, with the implicit agreement that the goalie never ventures beyond the half line. Starting from today however, the field would be booked on our regular playing hours, and as compensation we were offered (by the municipal government that regulates this) the use of another facility. This one wasn't quite so exclusive and fancy though, and was situated in what has to be the most impoverished neighborhood of the city (also the one where I live >.<).

I arrived this evening for the first time and prospected the playing hall to see if it would stand up to scrutiny, but to my disbelief it seemed to fall short of my expectations, literally in that it was only two thirds the size of a normal field. We decided to make the best of the situation by playing four versus four, but it turned into an hour of hardly endearing anti-football.

There are some tactical and strategical aspects about football that you start to take for granted, but which are really features of the environment. You can suddenly find yourself unable to translate your skills to adapt to the new environment because your intuition fails you, everything you attempt is wrong because you were operating under conditions that no longer apply.

Let's take some examples: by eliminating space you create an inability to engage in combinations or solos because you are easily pushed out of the field or blocked by the goalkeeper, you are furthermore punished because in losing the ball the opponent has such an immediate and overwhelming numerical advantage it becomes very easy to convert. The situations are very simple and they demand rigor, a disciplined approach to play where you can not afford to lose and can try to create your own opportunities by taking risks. It's easy to see that a defensive and conservative approach will net you results.

By playing four vs four on a small field you can use the goalie in the attack creating a perpetual majority situation where always at least one of the players has freedom to shoot. You can't chase with more than one person because it is very easy to exploit such aggressive play.

Our team is not disciplined, because we take different players from the university group every time, because we don't know each other that well, because we have a fondness for tricky and risky play, because we rotate goalies. We failed this evening in this environment and our opponents took advantage of our discord by utilizing a simple tactic: give all balls to their one capable player and have him score from a distance.

I have to admit I got KINDA tired of him standing at the back threatening to either shoot or pass right at the start of every play, since I was the person constantly giving chase. He hit me quite hard multiple times, and I thought it was rather cynical to use the opponent's fear of being hit as the basis for threats. At times I felt like it was target practice.

It's just anti-football, I hated it, and the fact someone said it was "fun" because we had the chance to score more often and because it was more action-packed just makes me lose faith in humanity. Something is wrong when after an hour of play it's 22-17, you're not supposed to score that often in football. I've started to really appreciate how field and team size affect the strategy of the game and how easy it is to mess with it and creating something which no longer resembles proper football.

Anyhow...

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jamesbradley
Profile Joined February 2016
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Last Edited: 2016-02-08 14:21:35
February 08 2016 14:19 GMT
#2
Futsal is such a great game
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
February 08 2016 20:31 GMT
#3
I liked your writing. Sucks to have a change like that! I haven't played futsal - haven't played football in a few decades... but I can relate with other sports where suddenly playing in a completely different environment changes the game completely. Hopefully you can either adapt and have fun or find another place to play.
QuanticHawk
Profile Blog Joined May 2007
United States32044 Posts
Last Edited: 2016-02-13 16:03:34
February 13 2016 16:02 GMT
#4
I almost always prefer outdoor to indoor/futsal because of stuff like that. League I was in last year was a very small basketball gym with the same no space to go problems that allow for little strategy. I only like indoor when the league is in what is basically a turfed hockey rink with boards and built in nets, which is cool as hell. It's the space and freedom of ourdoor, with the ability to do cool banks and set pieces using the boards like in hockey.

that being said, the threat of a shooter beaming you in the head is 100% valid and used at every stage of soccer. If you don't get it on net, you at least make the defender think twice about stepping in front fully, or they'll do that stupid ass 'ahhh turn my head away and try to block' in which case now you get to go around him easily. As a goalie, I am not sympathetic to that

as far as strategy in that situation, this was basically the strategy that everyone used in that league I mentioned. man up on the shooter at all times, be ready to eat a shot to make your goalie's life easier or at the very least keep him on the perimeter when he shoots, and basically dare them to beat you elsewhere. hope your goalie is good enough to cover the weaker shooters and you need to be full on counter attack at all times.

i've been running goalie in our league for the last couple seasons and we run into the problem you described a lot. That's basically how we deal with it. As car as counter attacking, it starts with the keeper. Any time I grab a ball, I immediately drop it on the ground and bolt until someone challenges me. Usually people get too aggressive and I'll draw two, which is when you pass and it starts up a fast counter attack that you want since you'll always have numbers in that scenario. Play wide in that situation, look to get the goalie moving laterally.
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