• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 00:29
CET 06:29
KST 14:29
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT29Behind the Blue - Team Liquid History Book19Clem wins HomeStory Cup 289HomeStory Cup 28 - Info & Preview13Rongyi Cup S3 - Preview & Info8
Community News
Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice6Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza1Weekly Cups (Feb 16-22): MaxPax doubles0Weekly Cups (Feb 9-15): herO doubles up2ACS replaced by "ASL Season Open" - Starts 21/0258
StarCraft 2
General
How do you think the 5.0.15 balance patch (Oct 2025) for StarCraft II has affected the game? Team Liquid Map Contest - Preparation Notice ByuL: The Forgotten Master of ZvT Nexon's StarCraft game could be FPS, led by UMS maker Weekly Cups (Feb 23-Mar 1): herO doubles, 2v2 bonanza
Tourneys
Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament $5,000 WardiTV Winter Championship 2026 RSL Season 4 announced for March-April Sea Duckling Open (Global, Bronze-Diamond) PIG STY FESTIVAL 7.0! (19 Feb - 1 Mar)
Strategy
Custom Maps
Publishing has been re-enabled! [Feb 24th 2026] Map Editor closed ?
External Content
The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 515 Together Forever Mutation # 514 Ulnar New Year Mutation # 513 Attrition Warfare
Brood War
General
Effort misses out on ASL S21 BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea BSL 22 Map Contest — Submissions OPEN to March 10
Tourneys
[BSL22] Open Qualifier #1 - Sunday 21:00 CET [Megathread] Daily Proleagues Small VOD Thread 2.0 BWCL Season 64 Announcement
Strategy
Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Fighting Spirit mining rates Simple Questions, Simple Answers Zealot bombing is no longer popular?
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Diablo 2 thread Path of Exile
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion The Story of Wings Gaming
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas Vanilla Mini Mafia TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine YouTube Thread UK Politics Mega-thread
Fan Clubs
The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
[Req][Books] Good Fantasy/SciFi books [Manga] One Piece Anime Discussion Thread
Sports
Formula 1 Discussion 2024 - 2026 Football Thread TL MMA Pick'em Pool 2013
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Laptop capable of using Photoshop Lightroom?
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
Shocked by a laser…
Spydermine0240
Gaming-Related Deaths
TrAiDoS
ONE GREAT AMERICAN MARINE…
XenOsky
Unintentional protectionism…
Uldridge
ASL S21 English Commentary…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 1625 users

Starting Out

Blogs > MotherFox
Post a Reply
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-10-27 21:41:42
October 27 2015 21:28 GMT
#1
Heroes of the Storm has been my first Moba, and I've been playing since the later stages of the beta: on April 7 bliz invited me to the beta. I send a key to a friend, and we started playing right away.

Since entering heroleague, my results have been pretty bad. I started off with a rather large loss chain which placed my hotslogs heroleague MMR at 577. My quickmatch MMR was in vaguely similar shape. I responded by reading lots of strategy articles, and after months of games my MMR finally got up to a less atrocious 1600 in heroleague and around 2200 in quickmatch. This blog is going to just be a recording of my latest organized attempt to fix the disparity between my MMRs: I feel like my quickmatch MMR says my execution is good, and my heroleague MMR says my drafting is terrible. My current hotslogs winrate is EXACTLY 50%, so it is very likely I belong at this MMR in my opinion.

October 17- October 20

Starting with an anchor character

Looking at my heroleague data currently, I strongly favor a support role, but rarely do well in that role in terms of converting wins in games. When I am not support, my picks are all over the place and not very well structured at all. So I have started something very simple: since I am familiar with and own every hero in the game, I started picking Abathur every game. This character was chosen for a number of reasons:

* I am ranked around 34-35, so it feels like teammates contribute to throws a lot. Abathur allows me to have a global presence so I can help out teammates who are scattered to the four winds.
* Abathur has a very strong endgame, so if the teams just stall out we should win the game when I simply disintegrate their base with locusts.
* I've been on a winning streak in quickmatch with Abathur, so he feels good.

Results: mixed

On many maps, the Abathur pick brings forth rage from teammates. This includes Infernal Shrines, Dragonshire, Haunted Mines, and Battlefield of Eternity. I think that putting teammates on tilt is a bad thing for improving my gameplay, so I dug in a bit to my win statistics. I have good winrates with Jaina, and she is probably a good blind draft pick for a number of reasons:

* She has good waveclear
* She is good in team fights
* She has good merc clear

So starting on October 19thish I started following these rules:

The New Plan

Pick Abathur on Sky Temple, Cursed Hollow, Tomb of the Spider Queen, Garden of Terror, Blackheart's Bay
Pick Jaina on Haunted Mines, Dragonshire, Infernal Shrines, and Battlefield of Eternity.
Pick support when team needs it (Either Malf, Uther, or lili)
Pick warrior when team needs it (Johanna or Leoric)

This simple plan was good enough to quickly raise my rank from rank 35 to rank 29. I've made more progress since then, and I'll highlight further changes I made in the next post.



Don't Panic
Chairman Ray
Profile Blog Joined December 2009
United States11903 Posts
October 27 2015 22:15 GMT
#2
I like to play Abathur on Cursed Hollow and Battlefield of Eternity. I find he's the strongest on these two maps because the objectives draw the entire enemy team. Right before the objective, put mines everywhere around it, and during the objective, push one lane with body soak+locust, push another lane with hat, and once the team fight starts, jump in with hat or evo. The exp lead you get alone is a huge advantage, and the enemy team can't defend your split push without losing the objective.

GL!
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 27 2015 22:49 GMT
#3
I do agree on battlefield of eternity--- I mostly quit on that map because of negative responses from teammates I was getting. Maybe as I rank I can re-introduce him onto that map. I really enjoy using him on particular maps because it gives me breaks from "normal play" and adds variety into my HL runs.
Don't Panic
Harris1st
Profile Blog Joined May 2010
Germany7100 Posts
October 28 2015 09:14 GMT
#4
Abathur ... hmmm
Is exactly like a first pick Nova/ Illidan --> Surprise package

Most ppl don't mind you playing one of these heroes, thing is:

Too many ppl did this and were horrible! Just horrible!
There are reasons why ppl associate Illidans with feeding, Novas with just plain bad and Abathurs with lazy ass.

I would probably add Raynor and Valla in your Assassin squad, and maybe Mura in you Tank squad then you should be good no matter what happens. If you can play these heroes reasonably well, you'll end up Rank 10-15ish. From there it gets waaaay harder cause you can't carry toxic ppl no more

Good luck!
Go Serral! GG EZ for Ence. Flashbang dance FTW
MotherFox
Profile Blog Joined March 2013
United States1529 Posts
October 29 2015 05:33 GMT
#5
You called the eventual direction I went with tanks here: however, while I love valla I feel like I can get much better results with spellcasters. I do visit valla if both KT and jaina have been picked and we need damage, though....
Don't Panic
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Replay Cast
00:00
LiuLi Cup Grand Finals Playoff
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
WinterStarcraft392
RuFF_SC2 217
ProTech130
mcanning 128
StarCraft: Brood War
Sea 5133
GuemChi 644
Shuttle 408
ggaemo 214
Bale 51
Noble 18
Icarus 13
Dota 2
NeuroSwarm98
League of Legends
JimRising 645
Heroes of the Storm
Khaldor89
Other Games
summit1g5236
C9.Mang0325
Tasteless94
Mew2King29
Organizations
Other Games
BasetradeTV198
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 20 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Hupsaiya 432
• practicex 61
• LaughNgamezSOOP
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• Migwel
• IndyKCrew
StarCraft: Brood War
• RayReign 92
• Azhi_Dahaki22
• iopq 2
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
League of Legends
• Lourlo1293
• Rush1128
• Stunt402
• HappyZerGling75
Other Games
• Scarra1332
Upcoming Events
Ultimate Battle
6h 31m
Light vs ZerO
WardiTV Winter Champion…
6h 31m
MaxPax vs Spirit
Rogue vs Bunny
Cure vs SHIN
Solar vs Zoun
OSC
12h 31m
Replay Cast
18h 31m
CranKy Ducklings
1d 4h
WardiTV Winter Champion…
1d 6h
Replay Cast
1d 18h
Sparkling Tuna Cup
2 days
WardiTV Winter Champion…
2 days
OSC
2 days
[ Show More ]
Replay Cast
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
Monday Night Weeklies
3 days
OSC
3 days
Replay Cast
5 days
The PondCast
6 days
Replay Cast
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Proleague 2026-03-04
PiG Sty Festival 7.0
Underdog Cup #3

Ongoing

KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Jeongseon Sooper Cup
Spring Cup 2026
WardiTV Winter 2026
Nations Cup 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Stage 1&2
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual

Upcoming

ASL Season 21: Qualifier #1
ASL Season 21: Qualifier #2
ASL Season 21
Acropolis #4 - TS6
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
CSLAN 4
HSC XXIX
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
RSL Revival: Season 4
NationLESS Cup
CS Asia Championships 2026
IEM Atlanta 2026
Asian Champions League 2026
PGL Astana 2026
BLAST Rivals Spring 2026
CCT Season 3 Global Finals
IEM Rio 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League S23 Finals
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.