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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-25 21:00:42
August 25 2015 20:59 GMT
#1
Hi,

I'm going to keep this short:

LoL has a lot of players. Dota2 has a lot of players. They're both free. Like completely free. StarCraft 2 was not free. StarCraft 2 cost $50. When you have to pay to play something, there's going to be less people playing it. Would you rather pay to play something by yourself or play something for free with friends?

Guess what, also... Brood War was really big in Korea. Brood War wasn't free. It cost $60. BUT WAIT.... In Korea it was free. Because people played it at PC bangs. That's where they played all games actually. And it became really popular. Like super really mega popular.


David Kim wants to remove things that the user does that spectators can't see or noobs can't appreciate. He thinks it will improve viewership and spread the game to new audiences. Bullshit. David Kim is an idiot. There are tons of such things that LoL and Dota players do.

"Hey that player dropped a ward to make the opponent think that he palced it and forced them to put down a sentry WHERE THERE WAS NO WARD then picked up the dropped ward and placed it somewhere else."

Yes this is super obvious to beginners. Also the fact that there are 10 people in the game and 2-4 of them are only ever on the screen at once for the majority of the game. That's not confusing to noobs at all right?

David Kim wants to make the game easier for beginners. Apparently 100+ heroes and the same number of items presents an EASY FUCKING LEARNING CURVE THOUGH.

It's not about the complexity of the game. It's about it being free, being fun, and being social.


I for one am of the opinion that games that are SOCIAL, FREE, and FUN will have huge audiences. Is that crazy? Is it insane to think that hopping into a LoL game with 4 friends and dicking around might be more appealing than grinding 1v1 StarCraft?

Can we please have back the game rooms from Battle.net 1.0? Do you know how much of my life I spent playing 2v2v2v2BGH NO KOREANS!!!!! Do you know how many people want to play games like this? A lot.


HJ@#(*@U*(@EU(UHCSKBHXCJ@G E*&G@*SYGF&UTWF@&TDFUTSCVSGHVGF!W&*F^*^@DT*@&E^*$F#U@TE^*@^#E@YVAHDJ


/rant

(PS I'm mad today)

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"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 25 2015 21:04 GMT
#2
David Kim isn't the guy who makes pricing decisions anyway, he does what he can to make the game more attractive, but tbh I think SC2 probably missed any window of opportunity to reach a wider audience like it may have been able to if it had been free to play or cheaper like CSGO. At this point the market is, IMO, harder to break into because the the sunk cost fallacy, where people feel like they're invested in one game or the other and so they're less likely to jump balls deep into a new one.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
pebble444
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Italy2497 Posts
August 25 2015 22:46 GMT
#3
This is a really good blog.

Its been several years since Blizzard pulled out an actual masterpiece. I don' t know if they have the capability anymore to do so. If they do, project Titan is going to be the next real deal
"Awaken my Child, and embrace the Glory that is your Birthright"
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 26 2015 00:49 GMT
#4
On August 26 2015 07:46 pebble444 wrote:
This is a really good blog.

Its been several years since Blizzard pulled out an actual masterpiece. I don' t know if they have the capability anymore to do so. If they do, project Titan is going to be the next real deal


Titan seems like it's a lot of fun, and I hope they have good people working on it.

I do enjoy HotS but I don't like the direction that LotV development is going in at all. They're trying to compete with LoL and DotA by changing aspects of the game that are unique to StarCraft to be more similar to those Mobas.

What they don't understand is that as long as your game is fun people will play it. And every game will have complexities that only very high level players will pick up on.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16680 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 02:16:30
August 26 2015 02:14 GMT
#5
For $20 you can buy HotS and get on the ladder and play.

playing free opens u up to too much piracy.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
Djzapz
Profile Blog Joined August 2009
Canada10681 Posts
August 26 2015 02:15 GMT
#6
On August 26 2015 11:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
For $20 you can buy HotS and get on the ladder and play.

For $20 you can get a handjob in Thailand and play LoL.
"My incompetence with power tools had been increasing exponentially over the course of 20 years spent inhaling experimental oven cleaners"
JimmyJRaynor
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada16680 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 03:44:23
August 26 2015 02:17 GMT
#7
if its free u can play SC2 with maphack really easily.

seeing as HIAT was in toronto and ur country says "canada"... i'd say you can get a lot more than a handjob for $20 at Queen and Sherbourne in Toronto... no need to go to Thailand... just walk around Ted Reeve Arena after 1am and you'll know what i mean.

WoW makes billions. WoW has millions of players. WoW has a subscription fee. Adding a subscription fee should allow SC2 to make billions per year just like WoW. and it'll have a giant player base just like WoW.

all laughs aside,
ummmm WoW and LoL and Dota2 are different genres and how many financially viable hack-free F2P RTS games are there? none.

the initial box cost forms a barrier to entry for maphackers.... if anything i want a higher box cost... that is more than the $40 USD they are going to charge for LotV.

On August 26 2015 05:59 DinoMight wrote:
Guess what, also... Brood War was really big in Korea. Brood War wasn't free. It cost $60. BUT WAIT.... In Korea it was free. Because people played it at PC bangs. That's where they played all games actually. And it became really popular. Like super really mega popular.


this generates no money for ATVI , so it does not matter how popular it is. ATVI's primary revenue generator is sales of entertainment software.
Ray Kassar To David Crane : "you're no more important to Atari than the factory workers assembling the cartridges"
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
August 26 2015 06:18 GMT
#8
lol jimmy going in the opposite direction
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TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10670 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 07:07:15
August 26 2015 07:07 GMT
#9
SC2 currently is free to play with friends , vs AI, Arcade, etc.

With SC2 being free you bring in an entire new group of players as well, a largely younger / more BM crowd of players, the cancerous community that is in LoL.

http://us.battle.net/sc2/en/blog/12440015/free-arcade-and-more-1-21-2014
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DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
August 26 2015 14:26 GMT
#10
I'm not saying SC2 should be free. I'm saying if they necessarily want to compete with LoL and Dota2 then it should be free.

Also I don't think map hackers play as big a role as you think...
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
Bojas
Profile Joined December 2010
Netherlands2397 Posts
August 26 2015 15:42 GMT
#11
no koreans? that's pretty racist man
DinoMight
Profile Blog Joined June 2012
United States3725 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-26 18:17:43
August 26 2015 18:17 GMT
#12
On August 27 2015 00:42 Bojas wrote:
no koreans? that's pretty racist man


Lol not sure if you ever played Brood War but the joke was we'd all get REKT by koreans so people started putting "no koreans" in the title of the game room because we wanted to just have fun.
"Wtf I come back and find myself in camp DinoMight all of a sudden, feels weird man." -Wombat_NI
GeckoXp
Profile Blog Joined June 2013
Germany2016 Posts
August 26 2015 18:25 GMT
#13
the problem with people in modern esport games is their seriousness about topics and the usage of words like REKT
feckless
Profile Joined July 2015
1099 Posts
August 27 2015 01:15 GMT
#14
On August 26 2015 11:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
playing free opens u up to too much piracy.

Mind explaining this one to me?
TelecoM
Profile Blog Joined January 2010
United States10670 Posts
August 27 2015 04:06 GMT
#15
On August 27 2015 10:15 feckless wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 26 2015 11:14 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
playing free opens u up to too much piracy.

Mind explaining this one to me?

You'd think making a game free would prevent piracy :O
AKA: TelecoM[WHITE] Protoss fighting
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9172 Posts
August 27 2015 09:12 GMT
#16
So many things about playing and watching dota 2, particularly regarding the client itself, makes me realise blizz dropped the ball years ago.
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