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Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 03 2015 09:13 GMT
#21
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 03 2015 09:22 GMT
#22
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Torte de Lini
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
Germany38463 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 09:33:13
August 03 2015 09:31 GMT
#23
On August 03 2015 01:16 messioso wrote:
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On August 03 2015 00:48 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 00:44 messioso wrote:
IEM Katowice final peaked at more than 100k viewers thanks to IEM CS:GO being late and LoL fans who wanted a final with a popular team TSM.


Why speculate? Why not just be happy that a tonne of people tuned in to watch.

Oh I'm happy about it but you can't deny that the CS:GO final was late, the SC2 final was a little bit delayed and LoL viewers were waiting for the LoL final to start. There are (hilarious) threads of people on /r/leagueoflegends not knowing SC2 at all and they did not understand why a game between Trap vs Zest was not over when Trap sniped a nexus. (https://www.reddit.com/r/undelete/comments/2z5aa1/3012361230_iem_lol_finals_will_start_after_sc2/)


So we educated some new people to our game and they might watch again? You're saying that some of the viewers were worthless, when they are not.


I think you're reading too far between the lines. He's giving (potential) reasoning for a peak viewership.

He's not a housewife, he's curious about the data behind StarCraft 2 viewership, not just about "being happy" people watched or setting a value between worthless/worthwhile on viewers. You're setting yourself at a stance when there is no double-perspective.
https://twitter.com/#!/TorteDeLini (@TorteDeLini)
OGamingTV SC2
Profile Joined March 2013
France84 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-08-03 20:15:55
August 03 2015 20:14 GMT
#24
On August 03 2015 18:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?

It was intended.

Sorry wrong account.
O'GamingTV Crew !
y0su
Profile Blog Joined September 2011
Finland7871 Posts
August 03 2015 21:06 GMT
#25
On August 03 2015 15:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
countless media companies get caught fudging viewer/subscriber/reader numbers .
.
Twitch.tv is not doing that. They are doing something much more subtle which will never get caught. they are just turning a semi-blind eye to viewboting which creates fake viewers.

i don't trust twitch.tv's #s because they're just another media empire and its in their best interest to have #s as big as possible.

its hilarious when Winter claims he has more viewers watching him play the WoL campaign than a veteran Incontrol with a massive history in Brood War and SC2 playing the game.

twitch.tv is letting viewbotting slide because it makes their #s look bigger than they really are.
any viewer #s coming out of twitch.tv can not be trusted...period..end of story.

Imagine one day we discover that twitch is double dipping and is actually behind botting services as well!!
[UoN]Sentinel
Profile Blog Joined November 2009
United States11320 Posts
August 04 2015 00:56 GMT
#26
On August 04 2015 06:06 y0su wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 15:59 JimmyJRaynor wrote:
countless media companies get caught fudging viewer/subscriber/reader numbers .
.
Twitch.tv is not doing that. They are doing something much more subtle which will never get caught. they are just turning a semi-blind eye to viewboting which creates fake viewers.

i don't trust twitch.tv's #s because they're just another media empire and its in their best interest to have #s as big as possible.

its hilarious when Winter claims he has more viewers watching him play the WoL campaign than a veteran Incontrol with a massive history in Brood War and SC2 playing the game.

twitch.tv is letting viewbotting slide because it makes their #s look bigger than they really are.
any viewer #s coming out of twitch.tv can not be trusted...period..end of story.

Imagine one day we discover that twitch is double dipping and is actually behind botting services as well!!

Plot twist: SC2 has been the most popular esport of all time this whole time, we just don't attract the viewbots.
Нас зовет дух отцов, память старых бойцов, дух Москвы и твердыня Полтавы
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 04 2015 08:10 GMT
#27
On August 04 2015 05:14 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 18:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?

It was intended.

Sorry wrong account.


May i ask why ? (i'm just curious)
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
Aeromi
Profile Blog Joined August 2012
France14460 Posts
August 04 2015 08:49 GMT
#28
On August 04 2015 17:10 FFW_Rude wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 05:14 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?

It was intended.

Sorry wrong account.


May i ask why ? (i'm just curious)

I just wanted to do a "simple" analysis for the first time. I'll try to include YouTube/AZUBU stream next time.
https://twitter.com/DrAeromi | Updates on live tournaments: @StarCrafteSport
FFW_Rude
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
France10201 Posts
August 04 2015 09:10 GMT
#29
On August 04 2015 17:49 Aeromi wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 04 2015 17:10 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 04 2015 05:14 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?

It was intended.

Sorry wrong account.


May i ask why ? (i'm just curious)

I just wanted to do a "simple" analysis for the first time. I'll try to include YouTube/AZUBU stream next time.

Oh ok. I thought it was something more "profound". Thx for your answer
#1 KT Rolster fanboy. KT BEST KT ! Hail to KT playoffs Zergs ! Unofficial french translator for SlayerS_`Boxer` biography "Crazy as me".
fluidrone
Profile Blog Joined January 2015
France1478 Posts
August 06 2015 00:16 GMT
#30
On August 04 2015 05:14 OGamingTV SC2 wrote:
Show nested quote +
On August 03 2015 18:22 FFW_Rude wrote:
On August 03 2015 18:13 Aeromi wrote:
On August 03 2015 17:15 FFW_Rude wrote:
Hey aeromi. Did you count Youtube and azubu ? Or just the english stream for Korean leagues ?

Great work.

I only count Twitch numbers.


No way to access the other medias or was it intended ?

It was intended.

Sorry wrong account.

It was intended?
Because if it was it would be very astute, to dis-mask in such a cavalier and grandstanding fashion.
I bow to your marketing honesty
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kiddsforever
Profile Joined April 2014
United States3 Posts
August 27 2015 20:09 GMT
#31
Awesome as always Aeromi
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