• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EDT 07:51
CET 12:51
KST 20:51
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
[ASL22] Finals Preview: Sweet Victory!9[ASL22] Ro4 Preview: Mirror Mirror6[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: Within Reach5[ASL22] Ro8 Preview: In A Tizzy11[ASL22] Ro16 Preview: Holy Diver5
Community News
Evil Geniuses - shutting down14ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier5Weekly Cups (October 12-18): 5.0.17 era begins1[$1250] International ShieldBattery League73Weekly Cups (October 5-11): Farewell to 5.0.167
StarCraft 2
General
REPORT: StarCraft 2: Remastered In Development Team Liquid Map Contest #22: Results and Winners No more SC2 streamers on team liquid? Evil Geniuses - shutting down How do you feel about the mass reverts in the 5.0.17 PTR?
Tourneys
ScienceCraft (October 24-25) - Live Event Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament RSL goes to London! 2026 Offline Finals Nov 21-22 ISSL (IntoTheTV x SOOP SC2 League): Premier WORTEX Challenger Series — Open SC2 LAN in Budapes
Strategy
[H] ZvP Mid-Late Game: Stalkers Collossi HT
Custom Maps
[G] How to playtest arcade maps [A] Nemrods 1/4 players [M] (2) Sweltering Sands
External Content
Mutation # 549 Endless Sparkles The PondCast: SC2 News & Results Mutation # 548 Shining Bright Mutation # 547 Temple Of Terror
Brood War
General
Sagi.gg Launcher Released Oceanic Brood War - Join and chat! Bot on ladder Do we even care about balance? [Recap] 0-6 Defeat for Mong's Team
Tourneys
[$1250] International ShieldBattery League [ASL22] Grand Finals [BSL23] RO24 Group C Small VOD Thread 2.0
Strategy
Cliff Jump Revisited (1 in a 1000 strategy) 50,000-Word Terran Builds Memo 2026-10-22 Simple Questions, Simple Answers
Other Games
General Games
Mobile Legends: Bang Bang Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Nintendo Switch Thread Armies of Exigo - YesYes? General RTS Discussion Thread
Dota 2
Dota 2 Champions League Season 3 Begins April 25!
League of Legends
[TL LoL EUW IHs] Teemo shall perish
Heroes of the Storm
Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug
TL Mafia
TL Mafia Community Thread
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread Things Aren’t Peaceful in Palestine Canadian Politics Mega-thread Artificial Intelligence Thread
Fan Clubs
The Flash Fan Club Serral Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread Movie Discussion! [Manga] One Piece
Sports
Football (Soccer) Thread TeamLiquid Health and Fitness Initiative For 2023 MLB/Baseball 2023
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
Recent Gifted Posts
Blogs
Innovate or Game Over?
TrAiDoS
ShieldBattery on Mac
Kraekkling
[ASL22] Ro4 Day1 Ticket Giv…
bITt.mAN
Can Bots Beat Pros?? Starcr…
namkraft
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 12116 users

Coaches and Starcraft

Blogs > voltz_sc2
Post a Reply
voltz_sc2
Profile Blog Joined April 2015
22 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-05-29 07:14:01
May 29 2015 07:02 GMT
#1
Hello! Voltz here.

Coaches and Starcraft:
Starcraft NEEDS coaches. No I am not talking about analytical coaches, I am talking about out of game coaches. There comes a time in every player's career where they get frustrated at themselves, or at the game. For example, you are not happy with your play recently, you are on a slump and losing all the time. What do you do? You grind more games and practice. Well guess what, YOU ARE WRONG! A lot of players seem to forget how important player health is. Your mind does NOT operate independent from your body. Being healthy and active is just as crucial to success as practice games are, if not, more important. Some players do exercise daily and that is great! But not everyone does that and I feel teams really need to hire coaches to make sure your players are exercising. Another reason I feel out of games coaches are essential is because a lot of players have personal issues and need someone to talk to. Many players dropped out of college or are fresh out of high school to play Starcraft professionally and may be under a lot of stress from not getting results. The feeling could be similar to when playing poker, you see your hand and have pocket aces. You feel confident, you love your hand, you are even passionate about your hand. You grasp your fingers around your chips, using the insides of your arms to surround every last one, and without hesitation, push all your chips to the center of the table and go all in. Every other players immediately folds except for one other player, sitting directly across from you. He had pocket kings. The flop is great for you, 4, 7, 2, all mismatch suits and no clear straight or flush for your opponent. The turn card is a 10, you feel you got him beat. The dealer picks up the final deciding card, catches a glimpse of it before placing it on the table. She slightly smiles, and looks over at the player, the player sitting across from you. Before you can see what the card is your heart already starts to sink. That feeling is what all starcraft players feel when they are not achieving the results they want to achieve or in this case, NEED to achieve. As one could imagine, this is a stressful thing for any one person to go through alone and sometimes people need someone to talk to.

Many players are extremely talented, and are blocked by some sort of mental barrier. IdrA immediately comes to mind. I feel like with more out of game coaching, players like him would still be around today. They need someone to show them that they are NOT all in, and there are other options they may have not considered.

TL;DR: SC2 needs out of games coaches to help players overcome mental barriers, and make sure they are healthy. Grinding out games is not how you become better at starcraft once you reach a certain point of skill and commitment to the game.

*
HornyHerring
Profile Joined March 2011
Papua New Guinea1059 Posts
May 29 2015 08:47 GMT
#2
That's not a big discovery, most people need life coaches to keep themselves motivated in the mundane reality.
oh, hai
DarkPlasmaBall
Profile Blog Joined March 2010
United States46591 Posts
May 29 2015 12:55 GMT
#3
I've heard of some players seeking psych/ sports coaches outside of games/ tournaments to make sure they're in a good mental state (e.g., IdrA). I don't know if it's required for everyone though.
"There is nothing more satisfying than looking at a crowd of people and helping them get what I love." ~Day[9] Daily #100
Textual
Profile Joined June 2014
Saudi Arabia57 Posts
May 29 2015 18:56 GMT
#4
I forgot we were talking about SC2 by the end of paragraph 1. I got lost in the slight smiles of the narrative.
Pocket pairs versus smaller pocket pairs are about 80% to win, which is a lot better odds than foreigners have of making it. The odds of that are closer to 0% than 80%, aren't they.

Your example suggests that struggling players feel fundamentally unlucky - like they set themselves up strategically for a win but then a random upset has prevented them from achieving their goals. That would be a bizarre way of viewing an attempt at an e-sport career, but then maybe that's why they need coaches?
Scarecrow
Profile Blog Joined July 2009
Korea (South)9175 Posts
May 30 2015 02:32 GMT
#5
Pretty sure coaches of pro-teams already fulfil this role. Most of the analysis/game coaching can be done between teammates.
Yhamm is the god of predictions
lisward
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Singapore959 Posts
May 30 2015 21:25 GMT
#6
I know that Robert Yip is a peak performance coach that works with TLO. Richard Lewis did a great interview with him, as did team liquid (?) His performance jumped significantly after he sought help IMO, which is pretty impressive since he was pretty meh for most of WoL.

I agree that peak performance coaching is a very useful, under-utilized tool for esports athletes. I'd guess that not enough people seek such help due to the negative 'self help' stigma, and the inability to secure funds to pay for such services. (Very, very expensive)
Opinions are like phasers -- everybody ought to have one
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
Next event in 9m
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Lowko255
Reynor 85
Rex 64
StarCraft: Brood War
Calm 6936
Shuttle 6023
firebathero 2712
Rain 2512
Horang2 749
Soulkey 522
BeSt 380
Larva 334
EffOrt 247
Hyuk 223
[ Show more ]
Soma 206
Mini 181
Rush 158
Light 152
Zeus 111
Pusan 110
Mind 101
Snow 94
ggaemo 89
ZerO 77
Killer 57
sorry 36
ToSsGirL 32
JYJ 31
Sharp 30
Shinee 28
Mong 26
Movie 26
Hm[arnc] 22
Creator 22
Sacsri 19
Bishop 16
Aegong 16
Terrorterran 16
Trap 13
yabsab 13
zelot 12
Noble 7
Shine 5
Dota 2
Gorgc11482
XcaliburYe144
Counter-Strike
dupreeh805
x6flipin168
gobbtv147
markeloff46
Other Games
B2W.Neo866
Pyrionflax288
crisheroes273
Livibee225
ZerO(Twitch)6
Organizations
Counter-Strike
PGL27860
Other Games
gamesdonequick931
StarCraft: Brood War
lovetv 8
UltimateBattle 1
[ Show 10 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• LUISG 35
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• Migwel
StarCraft: Brood War
• BSLYoutube
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV413
Upcoming Events
WardiTV Weekly
9m
IntoTheiNu 640
Rex64
IntoTheTV X SOOP
23h 9m
ByuN vs Lambo
MaxPax vs Bunny
PiGosaur Cup
1d 12h
The PondCast
1d 22h
Kung Fu Cup
1d 23h
IntoTheTV X SOOP
2 days
SHIN vs GuMiho
Clem vs Classic
WardiTV Invitational
4 days
GSL
4 days
Epic.LAN
4 days
Replay Cast
4 days
[ Show More ]
Sparkling Tuna Cup
4 days
Epic.LAN
5 days
Yamato Cup
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Acropolis #5 - GSC
Blizzard Classic Cup 2026
HCC Season 3

Ongoing

Acropolis #5
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 4
BSL Season 23
PGL Masters Bucharest 2026
1win Private Club #2
Thunderpick World Champ. '26
ESL Pro League Season 24
Stake Ranked Episode 4
1win Private Club #1
Logitech G Play Connect 2026
SL StarSeries Fall 2026
FISSURE Playground #3
BLAST Open Fall 2026
Esports World Cup 2026

Upcoming

IPSL Winter 2026-27
SC4ALL II: Brood War
BSL 23: Non-Korean Championship
HSC XXX
Stellar Fest 2: Lunar Cup
SC4ALL II: StarCraft II
Kung Fu Cup 2026 Grand Finals
RSL Offline Finals
eXTREMESLAND 2026
PGL Major Singapore 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 6
BLAST Rivals Fall 2026
IEM Beijing 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 5
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.