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I just got wind of the Winter viewbotting wtf

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revalence123
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States102 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 22:09:58
March 17 2015 04:58 GMT
#1
So, yeah I am a little bit late to the start, but I found out about the whole Winter SC view botting. I honestly thought he was pretty cool. He was one of the first people I saw playing SC2. But, I stopped after a while just because I decided I wanted to learn some stuff and not watch just hardcore smurfing. Now, this comes up and I really wasn't sure how I should react. I mean I have the opinion of," Winter why you such a bitch!" but I am stuck on the whole what do we do part. Some say flame the shit out of him and troll, but that just doesn't seem right. I did some reading and found out this is kind of an issue. I spent some time thinking about it. Viewbotting isn't the a majority issue.

We have a problem with sniping, DDosing, and a few other issues, but the few who do streams that do bot do a lot of damage. It flat out disgusts me what is happening, but it does remind of how behind the curve gaming media really is. If this were really comparable to much else in the more traditional entertainment, the problem would have been absolutely destroyed. That proves that problem solving is going to be an issue for many years to come with things that is exclusive to streamed content. I just the last 3 years gaming has become a HUGE entertainment source, but we are so different from everything else. Nobody is chosen by a room of people with money that is willing to throw at what will make them more money. We aren't given a job as a full time streamers, we make it. So, the problems, such as viewbotting, that would give us the edge to look like a big deal doesn't exist anywhere else. When is the last time you heard of a movie star buying for people to follow them around to lick the ground they walk on. Not saying people do that for streamers or that there aren't a few isolated incidences, but you get the picture.

So, the real question isn't just how to deal with Winter and other viewbotters, but also how to target these new problems and be able to set up proper punishment for it. For streamers I think that, at least for TLForums, that setting up an in system to flag them. I am not suggesting a flagging system like youtube. This will be almost entirely up to TL. They would keep an eye on channels that are eligible for features, but only the ones that are having weird spikes in viewships. How the forum browsers come in is they MUST present at least 5 counts of suspicious activity. After that has happened a few times a Flag will be put in. This means this channel and person will never be aloud to be featured. Nothing about these people are removed from the site or liquidpedia but everything that they posted or specifically involves them as the main subject matter has a banner with the offense.

I don't think anyone has the right to full out ban them from streaming, but giving people the knowledge of," Hey maybe I shouldn't give this guy my views because of (insert offense)." Now, that I have said my part, as just a SC fan and another guy in the community, I want to hear from people who read this. If, you agree, think this is shit, think this is pointless, or just think I am beating a dead horse. Thank you for reading and I look forward to reading your comments. Don't troll guys. I want to see an honest discussion of problems and possible problems in the stream and video production community that detracts or hurts the community.

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DusTerr
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
2520 Posts
March 17 2015 07:16 GMT
#2
text.
wall.
deathly rat
Profile Blog Joined October 2010
United Kingdom911 Posts
March 17 2015 08:26 GMT
#3
It feels like looking into the matrix
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lantz
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United States762 Posts
March 17 2015 14:46 GMT
#4
Sorry, I may have passed wind
Hot_Ice
Profile Joined January 2013
139 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-17 18:36:59
March 17 2015 18:25 GMT
#5
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HaRuHi
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
1220 Posts
March 17 2015 19:28 GMT
#6
On March 18 2015 03:25 Hot_Ice wrote:
[...]informing me that the guy [...] actually isn't that popular. That way I can make a "better" decision wether I want to continue watching the guy streaming, let alone supporting him with subscription or donations.

( On the other hand it might be a good format because it makes you reading it in one flush)


Well TL, I think that is it, the internet got the best of us. I guess this is farewell, was fun while it lasted.

Logout, forever, HaRuHi.
JieXian
Profile Blog Joined August 2008
Malaysia4677 Posts
March 18 2015 03:12 GMT
#7
hot ice leading the way for formatting
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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12351 Posts
March 18 2015 06:20 GMT
#8
I do agree with you.
There are far bigger issues but of cause it doesn't mean viewbotting isn't one as well.

But I would prefer tl has a better policy for suspected streamer as well.

Honestly this winter guy isn't that entertaining for me personally but he sure is dedicated to streaming.
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