• Log InLog In
  • Register
Liquid`
Team Liquid Liquipedia
EST 16:17
CET 22:17
KST 06:17
  • Home
  • Forum
  • Calendar
  • Streams
  • Liquipedia
  • Features
  • Store
  • EPT
  • TL+
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Smash
  • Heroes
  • Counter-Strike
  • Overwatch
  • Liquibet
  • Fantasy StarCraft
  • TLPD
  • StarCraft 2
  • Brood War
  • Blogs
Forum Sidebar
Events/Features
News
Featured News
Rongyi Cup S3 - RO16 Preview3herO wins SC2 All-Star Invitational10SC2 All-Star Invitational: Tournament Preview5RSL Revival - 2025 Season Finals Preview8RSL Season 3 - Playoffs Preview0
Community News
Weekly Cups (Jan 12-18): herO, MaxPax, Solar win0BSL Season 2025 - Full Overview and Conclusion8Weekly Cups (Jan 5-11): Clem wins big offline, Trigger upsets4$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7)22Weekly Cups (Dec 29-Jan 4): Protoss rolls, 2v2 returns7
StarCraft 2
General
PhD study /w SC2 - help with a survey! Oliveira Would Have Returned If EWC Continued StarCraft 2 not at the Esports World Cup 2026 [Short Story] The Last GSL Stellar Fest "01" Jersey Charity Auction
Tourneys
$21,000 Rongyi Cup Season 3 announced (Jan 22-Feb 7) OSC Season 13 World Championship $70 Prize Pool Ladder Legends Academy Weekly Open! SC2 All-Star Invitational: Jan 17-18 Sparkling Tuna Cup - Weekly Open Tournament
Strategy
Simple Questions Simple Answers
Custom Maps
[A] Starcraft Sound Mod
External Content
Mutation # 509 Doomsday Report Mutation # 508 Violent Night Mutation # 507 Well Trained Mutation # 506 Warp Zone
Brood War
General
[ASL21] Potential Map Candidates Fantasy's Q&A video BGH Auto Balance -> http://bghmmr.eu/ BW General Discussion Gypsy to Korea
Tourneys
[Megathread] Daily Proleagues Azhi's Colosseum - Season 2 Small VOD Thread 2.0 [BSL21] Non-Korean Championship - Starts Jan 10
Strategy
Current Meta Simple Questions, Simple Answers Soma's 9 hatch build from ASL Game 2 Game Theory for Starcraft
Other Games
General Games
Nintendo Switch Thread Battle Aces/David Kim RTS Megathread Stormgate/Frost Giant Megathread Beyond All Reason Awesome Games Done Quick 2026!
Dota 2
Official 'what is Dota anymore' discussion
League of Legends
Heroes of the Storm
Simple Questions, Simple Answers Heroes of the Storm 2.0
Hearthstone
Deck construction bug Heroes of StarCraft mini-set
TL Mafia
Vanilla Mini Mafia Mafia Game Mode Feedback/Ideas
Community
General
US Politics Mega-thread Russo-Ukrainian War Thread European Politico-economics QA Mega-thread Canadian Politics Mega-thread NASA and the Private Sector
Fan Clubs
The herO Fan Club! The IdrA Fan Club
Media & Entertainment
Anime Discussion Thread [Manga] One Piece
Sports
2024 - 2026 Football Thread
World Cup 2022
Tech Support
Computer Build, Upgrade & Buying Resource Thread
TL Community
The Automated Ban List
Blogs
How Esports Advertising Shap…
TrAiDoS
My 2025 Magic: The Gathering…
DARKING
Life Update and thoughts.
FuDDx
How do archons sleep?
8882
James Bond movies ranking - pa…
Topin
Customize Sidebar...

Website Feedback

Closed Threads



Active: 2136 users

As Dust of DAC settles the Road to TI5 begins

Blogs > goody153
Post a Reply
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 01:32:18
March 11 2015 09:21 GMT
#1
After my disastrous i mean questionable Pre-DAC Power Rank blog.

I decided to write another blog cause cause you know what idk man rofl but this blog will not be about who gets the invites or a power rank but this blog will be talking about :

1.) THE INTERNATIONAL HYPE and why should we care about the international ?
2.) The desperate, the rejected and underdogs
3.) The Championship contenders
4.) West vs East this incoming TI5


Lastly i suggest that you listen to + Show Spoiler [this music] +
while reading my blog if you don't mind



THE INTERNATIONAL
The 16 finest team around the world will clash claim to claim the aegis
(read it with a hype voice)


Well it's just the biggest and the most hyped yearly event for dota 2. Short explanation of this event is that it's the Official World Championship.

And this are the moments of the previous internationals that gave me chill and got me HYPED.


TI2


here comes LIGHT OF HEAVEN WITH THE H(*#&doiu(*#$uGESTTTTT BLAAAACKHOOOOOOLE



NAVI! NAVI! NAVI! NAVI! NAVI!

TI3


LIKE DUH this is so self-explanatory



SYLAR TO FALL LIQUID ARE DOING IT
giff team nazgul pls. (yes you are an awful person if you don't include this on your favorite moments of TI3 and you post on TL XD)

TI4



MEEEPOOOO pick when the tournament life is on the line



can you push before you run out of gas vs will the greed pay fast enough to dismantle the deathball ?

I think this is the match that defines what TI4 was about. It's arguably not more "epic" than the other games especially those in the group stages or other series but this is the series that stands out the most for me.

I believe this is the most high level game out of all of them(despite rtz fucking up) and the most hyped series of TI4 when playoffs started(even with the hype-killing schedule) and the one that put me at the edge of my seat. Honestly I still wished that eg vs nb was the grand finals not vg vs nb(wp vg though the team they deserved the 2nd place run).


hmm i think i'm forgetting something .. ahhhhh

TI1
I apologize i don't have one i've only seen the grand finals of TI1 out of all the series of TI1






The desperate, The rejected and The Underdogs



From all the years i have never seen so many disbands and reform that has ever happened in the history of dota(WOOAWWW). We all love the players drama's but nowadays being a dota fan is rough when players you transfer all the time.

This section will be about about the teams rising teams just below the top dogs of their respective scene(west/east).

The Desperate and The Rejected


I've put them both in one category. And that doesn't mean the team is in this category means they are necessarily bad it's just they fit both categories lol.


As TI5 approaches the teams of West has been shamelessly shuffling players left, right and center just to find the perfect fit of a team that will do well for TI5. You have teams with popular players like Meepawn who couldn't find the synergy they want or unsatisfied by it and btw just disbanded after a short while. There are teams like Team Tinker with players getting kicked and leaving(to find another team) and now trying to become a NA enough aiming to qualify for the weaker competition of the NA qualifiers(assuming they don't get invited which is likely but who knows we have black on their team xD).

NA dota currently has the reigning best team in the world. However that means shit when we are talking about the NA scene in general cause damn the scene as a while is one hot mess there are so many iterations of the teams that if you are not EG then you are changing members within tournament MULTIPLE TIMES that they manage to produce teams with the sickest names like Champions of Summer Rift who has two different rosters in two tournaments(rtz stack on MLG and the current roster ) atm and we have teams like Team Merlini aka Zephyr 2.0. Monib Baray. There are so many teams in NA but outside EG there isn't really any team who can really put up a fight in the international stage outside maybe the currentEhug will continue to improve until they can finally go toe to toe regularly with the best of the best.

How far has time gone when the once great rivalry of the former giants of the western scene Na'vi and Alliance who desperately tries to regain that one thing in the past that made them stand.out from all the other teams of the scene. While Na'vi seems to be in a better shape now and may actually be threat as they are continually improving since DAC especially with the addition of VPP's DK.Phobos as a replacement to funn1k.

Alliance on the other continues to try to find that old synergy with a full swedish lineup (maybe not anymore with the addtion of 7cking mad to the team) while continually disappointing fans.

Will the el classico be a thing again that all the diehard na'vi/alliance fans deserve? Unlikely but only time will tell.

You think the Western Scene is bad compared Eastern Scene ? actually you could be right unlike the Western scene who for some reason managed to make every single one of their teams change so many players that there are some players like 7ckingMad and the legendary Jimmy "Demon" Ho who literally played with almost all of the teams.

I won't be discussing china since outside the newbee, lgd, vg and ig most of the teams still does not have a roster.

Lastly the SEA aside from other teams like Mineski, CSW, 5eva there is Ehome.Malaysia which basically is Orange 3.0(who has the EG formula 1 Young Prodigy +4 known talents ) who hopefully will put up a fight during TI5 (although i'm not too optimistic about them since we've seen this roster before).

The Underdogs


Now lets talk about the teams just next to the best of the best and those who has been performing outstandingly.

Ninjas in Pyjamas
a.k.a alliance 2.0 , Kings of CIS(oh you'll only know this if you watch NIP games :D )

While alliance continues to be in shambles luckily there is another swedish lineup Ninjas in Pyjamas who fulfills the swedish dream while they are not as impressive as the old alliance in their prime where the scene was like Alliance vs World unlike the real alliance they are showing promising results.

Empire the current Kings of CIS(aside NIP rofl) who keep playing extremely solidly and survived the grand theft CIS by na'vi xD. We just need to pray that they don't crumble like they always do when TI is close.

HellRaisers the CIS team with a knack for aggressive deathballing. While i think empire is better than them doesn't mean they can't put up a fight against them.

Rave the pride of the pinoys and also Koreans xD they have showed promising results during DAC by eliminating 3 chinese teams and HR along the way. And they had a really close series against BigGod.




The Championship Contender



Ladies and Gentlemen now i present the teams that are likely gonna take aegis.(as of the moment)

The Big 3 of West
Once upon a time at one point(few years iirc) the japanese manga industry had 3 manga's that was ahead of everybody else and it was naruto, bleach and onepiece. We also have that version of the west currently.

[image loading]
Naruto
The team with abundant number of good cores. 4 of them. Well for the huge hype of this team they delivered ! The teams first tournament run they went 17-0 and that's when they ran 2 playstyle. And until now while they already suffered loses like a normal team should their playstyle hasn't been figured out by anyone even if they PICK THE SAME HEROES EVERY DAMN GAME that's pretty impressive considering everybody could just study you with the massive amount of games you have that does the same damn thing.

So why naruto ? well they have a loadmouth protagnonist *cough*rtz* who keeps chasing after another person who has historically rejected him *ehem*EE*. And it's the second best out of the 3 manga like they are the second best team of the west if we only consider results :3

[image loading]
Bleach

Ok why bleach ? Since this manga has always been behind One Piece and Naruto most of the time . It's the same case as C9 being behind Secret/EG like always.

With Aui_2000 and PLD out. The result of the new roster has been surprisingly not changed actually. It looks like the new C9 didn't improve nor did they become more inferior. Even with different support duo they still do C9 stuff, they are still capable of owning Secret and EG from time to time while still could not seal a series victory against them when the games matter like always.



[image loading]
One Piece
Why one piece well at the end of the day(which is the current time) they ended up with the best deal after the great reshuffle. Evidence ? They won DAC.

They are the best as of now so i'll call them one piece cause one piece is the best out of the 3 imo.

The 4 Dragons of China
So after DAC China went through their own Great Reshuffle and Oh my God.



[image loading]
LGD
Xiao8 is back and he is ready to give back a shot the team where he was known for. Theoretically this is without a doubt the strongest chinese team in paper and with the best Chinese Captain ever they should be in a pretty good spot for TI5.
And they even have the formula of winning huge tournaments

1 young prodigy + 4 veterans. Just like how rtz/suma1l won shit.

With Maybe on a team that could support him. Lets see how far can this team perform. Maybe xiao8 would be the first 2 time TI champion :3

[image loading]
VG
While black wasn't that "bad" he surely had communication problems with the team. This team was really dominant at this and with the blacks replacement being the best aggressive carry in the world(yeah not xboct). They like LGD has a chance to finish top 3 with ease. If they perform stable enough they can probably be the strongest aggressive team ever existed(probably better than newbee ti4) that should make every CIS team that existed look not CIS when compared to them.

[image loading]
IG
If you look at the lineup in paper DREAMS DO COME TRUE :D

The best carry of china(arguable) + the best mid of china + the proven support duo of IG + uhm Luo. They look damn strong but with LGD and VG existing i believe they are behind both of them

[image loading]
Newbee
"All good things must come to an end" - Some guy. Like ee and aui . Hao and Mu parted away.

Our defending TI4 champions who just had the most disappointing performance a TI champion could ever make during DAC now has Hao out(whether he got kicked or he left on his own) Hao will we ever know ? Haowever the team should be better now assuming they switch careers again. For now on paper they are the weakest out of the 4 but should still be good enough to be a threat since they still have the support duo.






West vs East

One of the things that make The International great is that it's usually the biggest global tournament yearly. And one of the things that fuels the fire of hype of every competitive big tournament is a good dose of homecourt team bias(aka nationalism/continental bias/cultural love bias). Think about olympics in that matter.

Dota 2 is no exception of it. Why is the international hyped ? well it's the time year of where best of the best gather and the time of the year where the EAST MEETS WEST.

At first before DAC happened i thought that the great western reshuffle managed to make the western scene significantly weaker than China. However after China as a whole poor performance on DAC. With i doubted that the East will be able compete with the West.

Until this happened


DAC was the time where China has shamed themselves in dota and they gonna try their hardest to make sure nothing like that happens ever happens again. They reformed themselves with the most stacked rosters possible.

This August on the international stage will the inevitable Chinese invasion succeed like how they claimed the victory of TI4 or will the West claim the territory of TI5 as well as they did in DAC ?

History gonna repeat itself this TI5. Which history will it be?




Sorry if i failed to discuss every team. I'm just discussing the ones that cross my mind and the most notable ones for me.

If you have read this far Thanks.

I know nobody asked but for those who care(or don't care but curious) the next time i'm writing a blog will be another Power Rank and will write it after the last tournament before the international 5 happens. (yeah fuck you it won't suck and it'll be the greatest power rank ever written in the history of ........ xD)

Lastly for future purposes(for the i told you so moments) i have a poll
Poll: TI5 West vs East

Western Domination (10)
 
50%

East will trumple ! China Strong ! (10)
 
50%

20 total votes

Your vote: TI5 West vs East

(Vote): Western Domination
(Vote): East will trumple ! China Strong !

this is a quote
icystorage
Profile Blog Joined November 2008
Jollibee19350 Posts
March 11 2015 09:38 GMT
#2
what a tease
LiquidDota StaffAre you ready for a Miracle-? We are! The International 2017 Champions!
Birdie
Profile Blog Joined August 2007
New Zealand4438 Posts
March 11 2015 09:46 GMT
#3
h y p e b o y s?

Even blogs getting announcements these days, will there even be graphics? ^_^
Red classic | A butterfly dreamed he was Zhuangzi | 4.5k, heading to 5k as support!
ahswtini
Profile Blog Joined June 2008
Northern Ireland22211 Posts
March 11 2015 09:56 GMT
#4
are you gonna make another power rank like for DAC? :D :D
"As I've said, balance isn't about strategies or counters, it's about probability and statistics." - paralleluniverse
Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
March 11 2015 13:41 GMT
#5
On March 11 2015 18:21 goody153 wrote:

EDIT : OOPS I MISCLICKED POST WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO PRESS PREVIEW

I'LL EDIT THIS IN A MOMENT ..XD

4 hours later...
Liquipedia
Piledriver
Profile Blog Joined August 2010
United States1697 Posts
March 11 2015 15:26 GMT
#6
Tick tock, tick tock.
Envy fan since NTH.
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
March 11 2015 15:28 GMT
#7
5/5, would be disappointed again.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
March 11 2015 15:48 GMT
#8
Yow guys i finally finished it :D



On March 11 2015 22:41 Elyvilon wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 18:21 goody153 wrote:

EDIT : OOPS I MISCLICKED POST WHEN I'M SUPPOSED TO PRESS PREVIEW

I'LL EDIT THIS IN A MOMENT ..XD

4 hours later...

I WAS 1/8 DONE

btw when i really accidentally posted it rofl xD
this is a quote
opterown *
Profile Blog Joined August 2011
Australia54784 Posts
March 11 2015 16:02 GMT
#9
newbee if motivated will be quite scary, all three cores are great in form.
ModeratorRetired LR Bonjwa
TL+ Member
Baozi
Profile Joined March 2011
United States1191 Posts
March 11 2015 19:43 GMT
#10
that clown9 flair

you're really not a bleach fan?

also why is there no sea option in the poll
"Universe is very spacey, we called him space man. He made a lot of space." - Arteezy
bagels21
Profile Joined August 2012
United States4357 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-11 21:51:48
March 11 2015 21:50 GMT
#11
5/5 great manga comparison. As a bleach fan, this hits me in the gut

On March 12 2015 04:43 Baozi wrote:
that clown9 flair

you're really not a bleach fan?

also why is there no sea option in the poll


in popularity polls in Japan, Bleach was always 3rd. Now it's struggling hard (anime was actually canceled)
StarMoon
Profile Joined April 2011
Canada682 Posts
March 11 2015 22:53 GMT
#12
Pretty good post, some grammar errors near the beginning.

Secret for TI5 ! :D
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
March 12 2015 00:53 GMT
#13
On March 12 2015 04:43 Baozi wrote:
that clown9 flair

you're really not a bleach fan?

also why is there no sea option in the poll

nope not a bleach fan .. I'm a one piece and naruto(before the last arc happened) fan though.

Sea counts as East


On March 12 2015 07:53 StarMoon wrote:
Pretty good post, some grammar errors near the beginning.

Secret for TI5 ! :D


Yeah i never edited this lol next time i'll try harder
this is a quote
BoesFX
Profile Joined April 2013
1456 Posts
March 12 2015 01:19 GMT
#14
On March 11 2015 18:21 goody153 wrote:

Empire the current Kings of CIS(aside NIP rofl) who keep playing extremely solidly and survived the grand theft CIS by na'vi xD. We just need to pray that they crumble like they always do when TI is close.


If it is not a typo, it is kinda cruel.
goody153
Profile Blog Joined April 2013
44237 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-03-12 01:31:46
March 12 2015 01:31 GMT
#15
On March 12 2015 10:19 BoesFX wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 11 2015 18:21 goody153 wrote:

Empire the current Kings of CIS(aside NIP rofl) who keep playing extremely solidly and survived the grand theft CIS by na'vi xD. We just need to pray that they crumble like they always do when TI is close.


If it is not a typo, it is kinda cruel.

it's a typo

i have this bad habit when i'm typing really fast i miss words in some sentences .. i dunno what's causing that .. so whenever i don't edit i really miss a few words

anyway fixed ty
this is a quote
xAdra
Profile Joined July 2012
Singapore1858 Posts
March 12 2015 11:03 GMT
#16
Nice post! Good to have someone sum up the scene as it is now since it's in absolute shambles lol.

VG fighting, iceiceice for ti5 champion
Courvoisir
Profile Joined March 2015
Germany9 Posts
March 12 2015 11:47 GMT
#17
:D well done

imo on one hand the reshuffling of the NA-Teams "flattens" the skill-peak and made NA-Dota overall much more interesting to watch, but on the other it may be granting an advantage for the eastern teams due to more Pro-Games as a TEAM.

I think having a closer look on the upcoming league matches of secret will show if they will truely be a contender for winning TI5.
There is nothing more difficult to take in hand, more perilous to conduct, or more uncertain in its success, than to take the lead in the introduction of a new order of things. - Niccolo Machiavelli -
Howie_Dewitt
Profile Joined March 2014
United States1416 Posts
March 12 2015 12:38 GMT
#18
IG dream
EnChuantress
Sisyphus had a good gig going, the disappointment was predictable. | Visions of the Country (1978) is for when you're lost.
Beirut
Profile Joined January 2011
United States673 Posts
March 12 2015 16:37 GMT
#19
China looks incredibly scary.
Please log in or register to reply.
Live Events Refresh
AI Arena Tournament
20:00
Swiss - Round 3
Laughngamez YouTube
BSL 21
15:00
N-Korea Champ Playoff Day 1/2
Dewalt vs BonythLIVE!
Mihu vs TBD
QiaoGege vs TBD
ZZZero.O395
LiquipediaDiscussion
[ Submit Event ]
Live Streams
Refresh
StarCraft 2
Nathanias 58
StarCraft: Brood War
ZZZero.O 395
Shuttle 180
sas.Sziky 10
Dota 2
febbydoto17
LuMiX2
League of Legends
JimRising 148
Counter-Strike
fl0m2253
minikerr16
Super Smash Bros
hungrybox954
Heroes of the Storm
Liquid`Hasu519
Khaldor246
Other Games
summit1g6049
Grubby2080
FrodaN1760
RotterdaM239
Harstem180
QueenE155
Organizations
Other Games
EGCTV1502
gamesdonequick1483
BasetradeTV50
StarCraft 2
angryscii 46
StarCraft: Brood War
Kim Chul Min (afreeca) 8
StarCraft 2
Blizzard YouTube
StarCraft: Brood War
BSLTrovo
sctven
[ Show 21 non-featured ]
StarCraft 2
• Berry_CruncH238
• davetesta81
• printf 42
• HeavenSC 35
• sooper7s
• AfreecaTV YouTube
• intothetv
• Migwel
• Kozan
• IndyKCrew
• LaughNgamezSOOP
StarCraft: Brood War
• blackmanpl 25
• Pr0nogo 8
• STPLYoutube
• ZZZeroYoutube
• BSLYoutube
Dota 2
• WagamamaTV728
League of Legends
• Doublelift1953
• TFBlade1209
Other Games
• imaqtpie2549
• Shiphtur253
Upcoming Events
Replay Cast
2h 43m
Replay Cast
11h 43m
RongYI Cup
13h 43m
Maru vs Cyan
Solar vs Krystianer
uThermal 2v2 Circuit
14h 43m
BSL 21
17h 43m
Replay Cast
1d 2h
Wardi Open
1d 16h
Monday Night Weeklies
1d 19h
OSC
2 days
Replay Cast
2 days
[ Show More ]
WardiTV Invitational
2 days
Replay Cast
3 days
WardiTV Invitational
3 days
The PondCast
4 days
Korean StarCraft League
6 days
Liquipedia Results

Completed

Escore Tournament S1: W5
OSC Championship Season 13
NA Kuram Kup

Ongoing

C-Race Season 1
BSL 21 Non-Korean Championship
CSL 2025 WINTER (S19)
KCM Race Survival 2026 Season 1
Rongyi Cup S3
Underdog Cup #3
Tektek Cup #1
BLAST Bounty Winter 2026
BLAST Bounty Winter Qual
eXTREMESLAND 2025
SL Budapest Major 2025
ESL Impact League Season 8
BLAST Rivals Fall 2025

Upcoming

Acropolis #4 - TS4
Escore Tournament S1: W6
Escore Tournament S1: W7
Acropolis #4
IPSL Spring 2026
uThermal 2v2 2026 Main Event
Bellum Gens Elite Stara Zagora 2026
HSC XXVIII
Nations Cup 2026
PGL Bucharest 2026
Stake Ranked Episode 1
BLAST Open Spring 2026
ESL Pro League Season 23
ESL Pro League Season 23
PGL Cluj-Napoca 2026
IEM Kraków 2026
TLPD

1. ByuN
2. TY
3. Dark
4. Solar
5. Stats
6. Nerchio
7. sOs
8. soO
9. INnoVation
10. Elazer
1. Rain
2. Flash
3. EffOrt
4. Last
5. Bisu
6. Soulkey
7. Mini
8. Sharp
Sidebar Settings...

Advertising | Privacy Policy | Terms Of Use | Contact Us

Original banner artwork: Jim Warren
The contents of this webpage are copyright © 2026 TLnet. All Rights Reserved.