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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-31 19:30:31
January 21 2015 19:42 GMT
#1
The_Templar vs SetGuitarsToKill


Sunday, Feb 01 7:00pm GMT (GMT+00:00)




SetGuitarsToKill and I have had a mutual respect of each other for the majority of the one year he’s been on TL. As one of the LR crew himself, he watches as I help set a shining example for the masses of people that like to have any excuse to post in tournament threads. As a leading contributor to LR threads (based on his post count), he is commonly found voicing his raw, honest opinion on all of SC2’s current events. Although he is not always correct (and players he becomes a fan of fall off mysteriously…), his attitude towards Starcraft as a whole is one that is extremely passionate.

However, I noticed something recently. SGTK thought of himself as more famous than he was. His vast post count which is totally more spammy that mine had given him a sense of false importance. His constant reference to himself when discussing important matters led to community members making sarcastic remarks about his fame.

On January 18 2015 01:03 TheDwf wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 18 2015 01:02 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 18 2015 01:02 Yhamm wrote:
did you know it was here too? : http://wcs.battle.net/sc2/en

wince when has that been a thing?

You were playing man, what else did you expect? Gotta fully cover any tournament SGTK enters


On January 15 2015 13:23 Bacon_Infinity wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 15 2015 13:14 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
See, the problem is me and Templar have done most of the playing, and me and Templar are both quite bad at the game. We can't play one aspect of the game as well as a pro can play all at the same time, even if we can focus on it. You just need better players, that's all.


Excuse me but you have a 3-1 record vs PartinG!


Excuse me, but do you see me trying to grab attention like this? Maybe as GodPorridge No, you don’t. Instead of saying “look at me!” I do EVERYTHING SC2 related that I can, and I don’t care what gets noticed. I keep trying out stuff that I might enjoy, and I amuse myself while contributing instead of selling myself out to the forums. Sure, I advertise myself by entering tournaments like the Olimoleague when I know I’m going to get crushed, but it’s all part of the fun I try to have on a regular basis and is in no way to gain internet points.

I had a conversation with SGTK the other evening over Skype, some time after I offered that we play a friendly match, but he didn’t seem very accommodating that evening, as he insulted pretty much everything I stood for.

Here's a totally unbiased transcript of his accusations:

+ Show Spoiler +
[1/19/15, 8:06:44 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: taeja is not very good
[1/19/15, 8:06:46 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: in fact he's bad
[1/19/15, 8:06:50 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: and he smells

[1/19/15, 8:07:45 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: go die to death [Note: wtf is this]
[1/19/15, 8:07:53 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: in a hellish fire
[1/19/15, 8:08:03 PM] The_Templar: ...seriously, is that trash talk?
[1/19/15, 8:08:35 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: well i can't take you seriously
[1/19/15, 8:08:39 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: so i can't make serious trash talk

[1/19/15, 8:11:36 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: imma make you cry like MKP
[1/19/15, 8:11:45 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: like a bitch

[1/19/15, 8:13:11 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: YOUR MOTHER IS OVERWEIGHT

[1/19/15, 8:14:24 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: you'd lose to bear [Note: not (Z)Bear, but Bear]

[1/19/15, 8:16:15 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: someone this bad at trash talk
[1/19/15, 8:16:20 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: doesn't deserve my time
[1/19/15, 8:16:24 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: go play League or something if you're this casual

[1/19/15, 8:16:38 PM] The_Templar: why are you going to bother losing to me 5 times if I don't deserve your time?
[1/19/15, 8:17:17 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: we all know that wont happen
[1/19/15, 8:17:27 PM] The_Templar: you're right
[1/19/15, 8:17:29 PM] The_Templar: six times
[1/19/15, 8:17:41 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: learn to math einstein
[1/19/15, 8:17:44 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: that cant happen
[1/19/15, 8:17:56 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: while your at it
[1/19/15, 8:17:59 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: learn to play starcraft
[1/19/15, 8:18:24 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: your so bad
[1/19/15, 8:18:33 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: wolf would say your going to lose a battle
[1/19/15, 8:18:37 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: and it'd actually happen
[1/19/15, 8:18:48 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: even artosis couldn't curse me
[1/19/15, 8:18:49 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: against you

[1/19/15, 8:21:31 PM] The_Templar: I'm going to beat you so badly
[1/19/15, 8:21:41 PM] The_Templar: you won't even log onto TL to request your ban
[1/19/15, 8:22:12 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: i'm gonna make even your alts wish they were never born
[1/19/15, 8:26:01 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: i see your response time
[1/19/15, 8:26:04 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: is about as slow
[1/19/15, 8:26:05 PM] SetGuitarsToKill: as your apm


Therefore, I challenged SGTK to a anything-might-happen GRUDGE MATCH. It will be a BO9 and we will agree on the races soon™, but he will probably play the boring and totally imbalanced Zerg race against my manly and balanced Random.

The map pool will be:











*If Daedalus Point 1.0 can not be found we will play on Alterzim Stronghold.

SGTK picked the first map and we alternated picks. As you can see, I'm picking the best of all worlds with Quicksand (novelty!), Fastest Map Possible (a classic), Emerald Plaza (one of the best maps right now), and Overgrowth (current ladder map). He just picked a bunch of old rush maps, making it clear what he intends to do. We've played several games against each other and I've always beaten him in longer games, so he thinks he has the advantage on rush-based maps.

The stakes? SetGuitarsToKill has agreed to change his signature to whatever I want after I defeat him. In the unlikely scenario where I somehow lose, I will write a blog insulting myself. Since we didn’t agree on a subject of the blog, it will probably be a battle report of a game where I lost horribly.

The date of this GRUDGE MATCH is undetermined currently but will probably be in a week and a half or so. Some other minor details are being worked out as well.

Poll: Who wins?

The_Templar (27)
 
61%

SetGuitarsToKill (17)
 
39%

44 total votes

Your vote: Who wins?

(Vote): SetGuitarsToKill
(Vote): The_Templar



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Moderatorshe/her
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SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 21 2015 19:46 GMT
#2
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
joshie0808
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
Canada1024 Posts
January 21 2015 19:49 GMT
#3
Loving the map pool!
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 21 2015 19:50 GMT
#4
On January 22 2015 04:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT

You dummy, there's a thing called being banned where you're not here. I would say all the bans you've had add up to a month
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TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 21 2015 19:52 GMT
#5
On January 22 2015 04:50 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 04:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT

You dummy, there's a thing called being banned where you're not here. I would say all the bans you've had add up to a month

So you've got like 7 years on me when we include your alts on top of your main account, right? Oh, -90 days for the ban you got on that.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 21 2015 19:54 GMT
#6
On January 22 2015 04:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 04:50 The_Templar wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT

You dummy, there's a thing called being banned where you're not here. I would say all the bans you've had add up to a month

So you've got like 7 years on me when we include your alts on top of your main account, right? Oh, -90 days for the ban you got on that.

I was only banned for 39 cumulative days, counting all of my bans. Anyway, I've been registered for four years. You're a newbie in comparison.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 21 2015 19:59 GMT
#7
On January 22 2015 04:54 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 04:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:50 The_Templar wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT

You dummy, there's a thing called being banned where you're not here. I would say all the bans you've had add up to a month

So you've got like 7 years on me when we include your alts on top of your main account, right? Oh, -90 days for the ban you got on that.

I was only banned for 39 cumulative days, counting all of my bans. Anyway, I've been registered for four years. You're a newbie in comparison.

I was was watching SC2 when Fruitdealer beat Rainbow. I was around when Huk was still on Millenium. I was posting and channeling for the Banjo Hayder at MLG on a different board back when you were 13 years old. I'm not some new school scrub kid. TL account doesn't mean everything.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Shellshock
Profile Blog Joined March 2011
United States97276 Posts
January 21 2015 20:01 GMT
#8
Better not suck
Moderatorhttp://i.imgur.com/U4xwqmD.png
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opisska
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Poland8852 Posts
January 21 2015 20:04 GMT
#9
I wish I was better at SC2. Then I would start challenging all the kids that now apparently decided that everybody is interested in their "grudgematches" to play me and I would beat them so badly that they will never want to play SC2 again, hence putting this new hippiness to peace.

Sadly, I am still in gold, after 4300+ ladder games played ...
"Jeez, that's far from ideal." - Serral, the king of mild trashtalk
TL+ Member
GumBa
Profile Blog Joined July 2012
United Kingdom31935 Posts
Last Edited: 2015-01-21 20:10:55
January 21 2015 20:09 GMT
#10
Excellent. Entertain me my monkeys
To all the haters: you deserve to witness many, many more Serral victories, worthy of the godlike player he is.
dravernor
Profile Blog Joined May 2013
Netherlands6191 Posts
January 21 2015 20:21 GMT
#11
Wow, your profile is concise!
<3
ZigguratOfUr
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
Iraq16955 Posts
January 21 2015 20:22 GMT
#12
I think SGTK is slightly ahead in trashtalk, but Templar is favoured to win this series, cause he'll benefit from Scarlett's coaching. And hmm... never realized Liquibets were ranked by post count.
The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 21 2015 20:33 GMT
#13
On January 22 2015 04:59 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 04:54 The_Templar wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:52 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:50 The_Templar wrote:
On January 22 2015 04:46 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
I've been here a year and a month you FUCKING IDIOT

You dummy, there's a thing called being banned where you're not here. I would say all the bans you've had add up to a month

So you've got like 7 years on me when we include your alts on top of your main account, right? Oh, -90 days for the ban you got on that.

I was only banned for 39 cumulative days, counting all of my bans. Anyway, I've been registered for four years. You're a newbie in comparison.

I was was watching SC2 when Fruitdealer beat Rainbow. I was around when Huk was still on Millenium. I was posting and channeling for the Banjo Hayder at MLG on a different board back when you were 13 years old. I'm not some new school scrub kid. TL account doesn't mean everything.

I was playing Brood War when I was eight years old. You really want to go there?
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
OtherWorld
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
France17333 Posts
January 21 2015 20:33 GMT
#14
No Fruitland. No random vs random.
Joke Grudgematch.
(on a side note, you gotta step up your trashtalk Templar. I cheer for the best trashtalk, and right now SGTK is ahead.)
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 21 2015 20:34 GMT
#15
On January 22 2015 05:33 OtherWorld wrote:
No Fruitland. No random vs random.
Joke Grudgematch.
(on a side note, you gotta step up your trashtalk Templar. I cheer for the best trashtalk, and right now SGTK is ahead.)

I don't need to trash talk, he does it all himself. I omitted most of the Skype chat where he kept saying I would win and he wasn't good at this.
Moderatorshe/her
TL+ Member
SetGuitarsToKill
Profile Blog Joined December 2013
Canada28396 Posts
January 21 2015 20:35 GMT
#16
On January 22 2015 05:33 OtherWorld wrote:
No Fruitland. No random vs random.
Joke Grudgematch.
(on a side note, you gotta step up your trashtalk Templar. I cheer for the best trashtalk, and right now SGTK is ahead.)


Hm... interesting points. I agree we should add Fruitland. No FMP, that was a dumb idea on your part.
Community News"As long as you have a warp prism you can't be bad at harassment" - Maru | @SetGuitars2Kill
Cricketer12
Profile Blog Joined May 2012
United States13991 Posts
January 21 2015 20:43 GMT
#17
Holy fucking shit guys, just read all those posts between them...cannot fucking wait for this is going to be immensely enjoyable to watch
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The_Templar
Profile Blog Joined January 2011
your Country52797 Posts
January 21 2015 20:43 GMT
#18
On January 22 2015 05:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 05:33 OtherWorld wrote:
No Fruitland. No random vs random.
Joke Grudgematch.
(on a side note, you gotta step up your trashtalk Templar. I cheer for the best trashtalk, and right now SGTK is ahead.)


Hm... interesting points. I agree we should add Fruitland. No FMP, that was a dumb idea on your part.

FMP is literally the best non-UMS map ever in BW, are you an idiot or did you never play before SC2 came out?
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Vraggeol
Profile Joined October 2014
Czech Republic15 Posts
January 21 2015 20:44 GMT
#19
@SGTK I'd tell, your signature has changed very quickly. It didn't seem that it'll, after your big r.i.p. post about Scarlett. I'm looking forward what The_Templar will force you to write as your signature next
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Ej_
Profile Blog Joined January 2013
47656 Posts
January 21 2015 20:47 GMT
#20
On January 22 2015 05:43 The_Templar wrote:
Show nested quote +
On January 22 2015 05:35 SetGuitarsToKill wrote:
On January 22 2015 05:33 OtherWorld wrote:
No Fruitland. No random vs random.
Joke Grudgematch.
(on a side note, you gotta step up your trashtalk Templar. I cheer for the best trashtalk, and right now SGTK is ahead.)


Hm... interesting points. I agree we should add Fruitland. No FMP, that was a dumb idea on your part.

FMP is literally the best non-UMS map ever in BW, are you an idiot or did you never play before SC2 came out?

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