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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
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Last Edited: 2014-12-08 18:23:53
December 07 2014 16:39 GMT
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itsjustatank
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
Hong Kong9183 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 16:55:38
December 07 2014 16:53 GMT
#2
My opinion is that being honest to yourself, in whatever way you term that to be, is important.

You wouldn't be the first, or the last, person in the Smash community to come out. Strangely enough, the fighting game community as a whole has been quite accepting of members of the LGBT community despite having a strong veneer of machismo culture surrounding the activity.

Talk to prog.
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NeThZOR
Profile Blog Joined November 2010
South Africa7387 Posts
December 07 2014 20:17 GMT
#3
Stay strong and I hope that when you do come out that everyone will be chilled with it.
SuperNova - 2015 | SKT1 fan for years | Dear, FlaSh, PartinG, Soulkey, Naniwa
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 07 2014 21:34 GMT
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BigFan
Profile Blog Joined December 2010
TLADT24920 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-12-07 23:44:41
December 07 2014 23:44 GMT
#5
I say, just do it! Of course, giving it some prior thought is a good thing but accepting yourself and opening up to others is the best thing to do. If they don't accept you despite you guys having spent time together smashing and doing other stuff, then I wouldn't consider them as friends.

Personally, I think it's best to be ready for both possibilities and just to do it when you find the best time. Dropping the hints is also a good idea as well. Best of luck and keep us updated!
Former BW EiC"Watch Bakemonogatari or I will kill you." -Toad, April 18th, 2017
batsnacks
Profile Blog Joined April 2014
United States4466 Posts
December 08 2014 03:22 GMT
#6
I don't have advice for you.

Sweet blog though I enjoyed reading it. 5/5
lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 08 2014 04:07 GMT
#7
never judge bros by their brotimes.

seriously though lots of the things that happen in guy only conversations is just posturing for male dominance. show you've got more testosterone and shit. i don't know if they'd be okay with it, but that conversation and the rest of your story doesn't make me think they wouldn't accept you.

you're eventually going to transition. if you decide to disappear, you lose them. if you tell them, you might lose them or they might accept you.

pretty sure the choice is clear.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 04:36 GMT
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lichter
Profile Blog Joined September 2010
1001 YEARS KESPAJAIL22272 Posts
December 08 2014 05:50 GMT
#9
Eh, it's not as bad as you think. It's not testosterone that makes someone homophobic or intolerant. While I'm posting this on a video game website, I grew up as an athlete and hung out with a lot of bullies and cool kids. Rejecting other orientations is usually just a social expectation thing ("I'm a man, I only accept manly thing.") and not something ingrained in one's personality, and a lot of the posturing as I mentioned is just about male dominance than anything else. It's prominent in one's teens and maybe into college, but most people—at least those that actually grow up—eventually reject being controlled by those immature expectations.

If they are good people, I don't think there's much to fear.
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 06:10 GMT
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OnceKing
Profile Blog Joined January 2009
United States939 Posts
December 08 2014 08:20 GMT
#11
Gonna agree with lichter.
Sometimes people just say shit, I dunno. While it can be offensive or insensitive that doesn't mean there's any phobic intention behind it. I hang out with quite a few people who use "gay" and "faggot" pejoratively but they don't actually treat people differently just cause they're gay or genderqueer or whatever. I mean, the conversation you posted does demonstrate that they can use insensitive language but it doesn't mean that they'd suddenly turn around and hate you just cause you came out.

Don't get me wrong, it's possible which is unfortunate. But the conversation doesn't strike me as a terribly big deal in terms of whether they'd accept you after coming out or not.
"Every man has his follies - and often they are the most interesting thing he has got."
Gowerly
Profile Blog Joined July 2011
United Kingdom916 Posts
December 08 2014 15:21 GMT
#12
My thoughts on it are that
- You can hang out with them as you are currently
- It's likely they suspect you're gay or something to that ilk (or "effeminate" or whatever the words used today are, I didn't get the memo)
- They don't seem to care and have accepted that about you

It's likely that they have simply accepted you for who you are and won't care what you want to be.
I work in the games industry and it's kind of an old boys club in the rooms without any women in (and there are some, as you would expect) with the humour swirling around the toilet.
Then we go home to our families and partners and act like reasonable human beings.
These people seem to enjoy your company and I can't imagine that changing because you came out to them.
I will reduce you to a series of numbers.
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 18:57 GMT
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 08 2014 19:30 GMT
#14
On December 09 2014 03:57 Onekobold wrote:
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On December 08 2014 17:20 OnceKing wrote:
Gonna agree with lichter.
Sometimes people just say shit, I dunno. While it can be offensive or insensitive that doesn't mean there's any phobic intention behind it. I hang out with quite a few people who use "gay" and "faggot" pejoratively but they don't actually treat people differently just cause they're gay or genderqueer or whatever. I mean, the conversation you posted does demonstrate that they can use insensitive language but it doesn't mean that they'd suddenly turn around and hate you just cause you came out.

Don't get me wrong, it's possible which is unfortunate. But the conversation doesn't strike me as a terribly big deal in terms of whether they'd accept you after coming out or not.

I mean, whether or not someone is "just saying" something or actually saying something doesn't really matter. If they say something offensive, it's still offensive even if they say "oh just kidding" afterwards, or if they say it in a funny voice or something. Of course I could be complaining about this for no reason, they might shape up after I tell them and everything would be fine. It's too hard to tell.


While you're right and saying offensive things doesn't matter if it's a joke or not, you have to consider that people are different people in different contexts. It's quite possible for someone to act very bigoted because they think they're in a context where it's "ok" to do so (they think they're with a bunch of other straight men, so offensive things aren't directly hurting anyone), while if they knew about you they'd be more respectful (maybe).

Btw I don't really know what you meant by this line:
Me: I thought the whole point is that sheik is a man


Sheik = Zelda, right? It's just a disguise?

Also it's pretty unusual IMO for straight men to play with each other's hair. Maybe Jordan is subconsciously aware of your femininity and is now very confused.
I am the Town Medic.
Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 20:24 GMT
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Alzadar
Profile Blog Joined April 2010
Canada5009 Posts
December 08 2014 20:46 GMT
#16
It's definitely a mix. People are fundamentally good at heart, but they don't like change or unfamiliar things, and you coming out will be both.

Plausibly Zelda can actually turn herself into a man, but why would she do this, just to perfect the disguise?

p.s. Link to the Past is possibly the greatest single player game of all time, play it!
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Onekobold
Profile Blog Joined October 2013
244 Posts
December 08 2014 21:25 GMT
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