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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 19 2014 21:48 GMT
#21
There's a lot less active posters now / after the divide.
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teddyoojo
Profile Blog Joined June 2011
Germany22369 Posts
November 19 2014 21:54 GMT
#22
the sad thing is this blog is more active than the whole of LD has been in a week
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 21:58:37
November 19 2014 21:54 GMT
#23
Literally the only value addition of the site split from a dota perspective is the dedicated calendar. Which I like very much.

Everything else is preeeetty much downhill

In distinct contrast to the (imo) huge success that is LH which not only adds a lot of value as a site to the hearthstone section but also gets that shit out of my hair cuz god that game is awful lol. They also have a semi-useable site icon also in contrast to LD
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Kuroeeah
Profile Blog Joined February 2013
11696 Posts
November 19 2014 21:55 GMT
#24
So honestly I'm glad that several specific users replied to this blog because first off, I recognize everyone and more importantly while Im not speaking for everyone, I get the impression that NONE of us actually likes the divide or changes even though we've been a part of TL DotA's community since the beginning.
Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:01:16
November 19 2014 22:01 GMT
#25
I do understand the concept behind a lot of the changes made I just don't think that the concept is realistic or valuable in the dota community.

Which I believe is feedback I made in the GD closing thread among other places but I could be wrong.
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Akfekeht
Profile Joined November 2014
Croatia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:17:14
November 19 2014 22:09 GMT
#26
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:17:36
November 19 2014 22:15 GMT
#27
Not going to lie,

I don't post very good content anymore because a lot of the users suck. Not a great argument from my perspective, but some of the most vocal members around here annoy me the most.

After that, I just kept posting closer and closer to the limit of what would normally get someone banned to see what would happen.

Nothing ofc
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ZasZ.
Profile Joined May 2010
United States2911 Posts
November 19 2014 22:18 GMT
#28
On November 20 2014 07:09 Akfekeht wrote:
The reason why this new site doesn't work is partly because of us.
Liquid is user generated content,for better or for worse.We're just not that interested in putting in the effort to write quality content or what ever,most of us are here for the bullshit,which was GD.

I don't have anything against nazgul but I think he hoped that liquid dota would pick up more steam and gather fnatics like stacraft has in the earlier days since there is no central community hub.
But it looks like no one sees the appeal in being a hamster running the wheel for nazgul.People are shocked when someone comes up with "uh but why don't i get payed as a TL writer",and I don't necessarily think you should get money,but you should at least get something out of it,like recognition from the community or w/e.
Its not that it cant be done but right now it feels like there is no community so contributing to this website in a meaningful way seems like a very daunting task.

idk,i personally think you should bring back the bullshit that was GD,we were good at that at least.
i think bullshit is a very good soil to grow things on,eventually someone retarded enough is going to go on and write a "God of War" type of post.It's just not going to happen over night and shutting down stuff like GD is a very bad idea and hinders the growth of this site actually.
Just remember the type of bullshit that was posted back in the old BW TL days,some of those posts would get permabaned nowadays,but there were a few people that eventually got interested and invested in the site enough to generate content for it.


I totally agree that a solution to the website lacking content is for people to actually make content. That's on us. But in the event that no one is coming forth with content, why shut down the only thread that people seemed to be excited about? Closing GD made little sense when it was the only active thread on the website, even if people weren't staying on topic.
TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 08:39:42
November 19 2014 22:26 GMT
#29
Traffic hasn't changed with the closing of the GD thread (it actually went up for a bit), so bringing that back makes no sense but to just please a small subset of people who posted there. Not sure if you guys realize but some thread being constantly bumped by like 50 people isn't even making up 1% of our daily traffic...

I agree with a lot of the other stuff being said here though.
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:31:41
November 19 2014 22:29 GMT
#30
Basing an argument on site traffic doesn't really do it for me.

I'm sure kotaku gets a ton of traffic but that site is beyond shitty.

I do understand that growth is important and that one of the reasons the site got split off was exactly to give Liquid`Dota space to grow. But growth for the sake of growth isn't a winning recipe.
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Akfekeht
Profile Joined November 2014
Croatia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:35:14
November 19 2014 22:30 GMT
#31
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
November 19 2014 22:33 GMT
#32
On November 20 2014 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Basing an argument on site traffic doesn't really do it for me.

I'm sure kotaku gets a ton of traffic but that site is beyond shitty.

I'm not basing an argument on that at all. It wasn't even an argument really...
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Sn0_Man
Profile Blog Joined October 2012
Tebellong44238 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:38:14
November 19 2014 22:35 GMT
#33
On November 20 2014 07:33 TheEmulator wrote:
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On November 20 2014 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Basing an argument on site traffic doesn't really do it for me.

I'm sure kotaku gets a ton of traffic but that site is beyond shitty.

I'm not basing an argument on that at all. It wasn't even an argument really...

Well it was. Ur argument was "GD wasn't an important part of LD since it's removal didn't negatively affect site traffic"

I understand the reasons MiR had against GD and I can at least sympathize even though I miss the fuck outta the thread. But talking about "traffic" is at best of tangential importance to users who care more about discussions and interactions than traffic. (this is on the assumption that traffic means page hits)
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Akfekeht
Profile Joined November 2014
Croatia10 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-11-19 22:39:54
November 19 2014 22:38 GMT
#34
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
Last Edited: 2018-03-16 08:44:43
November 19 2014 22:40 GMT
#35
On November 20 2014 07:30 Akfekeht wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 07:26 TheEmulator wrote:
Traffic hasn't changed with the closing of the GD thread (it actually went up for a bit), so bringing that back makes no sense but to just please a small subset of people who posted there. Not sure if you guys realize but some thread being constantly bumped by like 50 people isn't even making up 1% of our daily traffic...

I agree with a lot of the other stuff being said here, but the whole GD thing is annoying to be honest.

its not stupid and annoying and it clearly shows you don't understand the problem.
threads like GD don't create traffic,they create fanatics and people who are a bit deeper in and come to know people on a different level.Those type of people usually end up writing the original content that you need.
Your not going to get a random guy from reddit here to write a article for you constantly,you need to breed those type of people,and stuff liek GD is usually where you do it.
Theres no one bitching here about the lack of traffic for this site and if its down or up,were talking about who makes the content that doesn't exist right now.Guides and LR threads are ok but idk,theres nothing special about that.

Threads like GD create an insular community with no opportunity for growth.

GD was around forever and only a couple of people who are regular posters ever became a part of our staff, and it was usually through us asking and not them seeking us out. Also some of best staff members aren't a part of this community. We found phantasmal creating content on reddit and many others so...
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TheEmulator
Profile Blog Joined July 2010
28100 Posts
November 19 2014 22:40 GMT
#36
On November 20 2014 07:35 Sn0_Man wrote:
Show nested quote +
On November 20 2014 07:33 TheEmulator wrote:
On November 20 2014 07:29 Sn0_Man wrote:
Basing an argument on site traffic doesn't really do it for me.

I'm sure kotaku gets a ton of traffic but that site is beyond shitty.

I'm not basing an argument on that at all. It wasn't even an argument really...

Well it was. Ur argument was "GD wasn't an important part of LD since it's removal didn't negatively affect site traffic"

I understand the reasons MiR had against GD and I can at least sympathize even though I miss the fuck outta the thread. But talking about "traffic" is at best of tangential importance to users who care more about discussions and interactions than traffic. (this is on the assumption that traffic means page hits)

It was just my response to people saying removing GD made LD a "dead site". Not my argument for why GD needs to remain closed.
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Qbek
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
Poland12923 Posts
November 19 2014 22:43 GMT
#37
You can close GD everyday, it made me write a 6k words (so far ) story.

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Akfekeht
Profile Joined November 2014
Croatia10 Posts
November 19 2014 22:43 GMT
#38
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Comeh
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States18919 Posts
November 19 2014 22:44 GMT
#39
To be fair, right around when GD moved over to LD, the GD became really really awful.
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Erasme
Profile Blog Joined February 2011
Bahamas15899 Posts
November 19 2014 22:46 GMT
#40
im kinda sad that gd died
but lets be honest you guys killed it by yourselves
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7lxwFEB6FI “‘Drain the swamp’? Stupid saying, means nothing, but you guys loved it so I kept saying it.”
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