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Duels of the Planeswalkers (TCG)

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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-09 04:00:29
October 08 2014 11:01 GMT
#1
Disclaimer: I don't work for Wizards or stand to benefit monetarily from this blog in any way.

As someone who's loved trading card games, since Pokemon, Magic the Gathering came naturally to me.

I was very pleased with both of Wizard's Duels of the Planeswalkers and I wanted to share a review with you to encourage you to try the game. If you're a trading card game enthusiast and you've tried digital forms like the GBA Pokemon Trading card game you're almost sure to enjoy this. If you're a Hearthstone enthusiast, you can enjoy some of the complexity of magic, learn the roots of the hearthstone game: the mechanics that hearthstone tried to simplify and the frustrations they tried to remove.

Duels of the Planeswalkers 2014 and 2015 are both primarily single player games. You can play 2014 in a sealed format online against others, but it costs money to make more than 1 or 2 sealed decks and you can't do constructed for online play. In 2015, you can build your own decks, paying at most 14*2=28$ for all of the premium cards. But most deck archetypes are very strict and don't lead to experimentation because Gatherer's made the card pool so small. While the card pool is probably still as large as Hearthstone's, it just feels too limited compared to paper magic.

The single player game in 2014 is rather frustrating. Most of the decks you face in the campaign are instances. This means they draw the same and play the same every game. They never have a bad draw, and most get godlike draws (relentless rats draws maybe 5 lands and then 55 rats in a row). Only planes bosses and planeswalkers do not behave as instances. Most of the time these games are as much a game of deckbuilding strategy as they are just mulliganing your hand until you get something that can counter your opponent.

The best part of 2014 was unlocking cards, and the revenge campaign against just the bosses. As someone new to magic, it was really fun to see some of the old cards like Baneslayer Angel and Shivan Dragon in action. I was like a child again, experiencing the joy of discovery around every corner. I was also able to learn a lot about how the game functioned just from playing it in a controlled environment (eg. just when instants can be played and how burn decks function).

In 2014, changing the game difficulty from Mage (easy) to Planeswalker made the AI harder but in the wrong way. The AI got more cards at higher difficulties. I felt this was a really cheesy way to make the AI more difficult even if it was necessary since even though I was making "good" decisions I would lose games due to the inherent card disadvantage.

If you just play singleplayer, the games are 10$ each to (eventually) get all the cards in 2014, and 87% of the cards in 2015. You can use some codes to speed up the unlocking in 2014. A lot of people complain that duels of the planeswalkers is too expensive but compared to paper magic, each game costs less than some rare cards for over 100 hours of entertainment. (I have 79 hours on 2014 and 26 on 2015). The last 13% of cards in 2014 are premium and cost up to 28$ to get. you don't really need them unless you intend to play online.

Duels 2015 was in many ways a downgrade from 2014. The UI is much slower, almost nonresponsive. I ran both games in windowed mode and even then just hitting play took at least 5 seconds to lead to an action. Still, compared to MTGO (Magic the Gathering Online) or Cockatrice, the interface of Duels of the Planeswalkers is beautiful. Like an average looking girl in engineering.

Duels 2015 also has very few instances which is a plus.

Some of the decks in 2015 are almost impossible to beat on the default archmage difficulty when you're just starting and don't have any good cards. I recommend either going through the explore section of the first plane a few times to get more cards or lowering the difficulty.

Otherwise the only major difference is that you can deck build. Since the card pool is so small, the players who enjoy making extreme combo decks may not get as much enjoyment from the game as I do. People who enjoy playing strong cards or enjoy playing to win are the people who will enjoy this game the most. (Chant of the Mul'Daya deck in duels 2014 lets you play Eldrazi such as the mighty Emrakul the Aeons Torn). Collectors, and traders will find almost no enjoyment from Duels since the point of the game is to play it XD. You don't get to hold the cards.

The biggest downside of online magic is that you don't get the social aspect of being able to talk with others. Unlike hearthstone, you can type to other people online, and the community is nice, but of course the online experience is not the same as irl. The biggest plus is you can play anytime. 2015 is even available on the iPad! (Though there are bad reviews for the iPad).

  • Addictiveness 5/5
  • Cost 5/5
  • Frustrating? Yes. Sometimes. Oh my god, give me a land! No no not that many lands!
  • UI 2/5
  • Bugs? How did my 11/11 Seraph of the Masses die to Anger of the Gods?


TL;DR Should you get it? Only if you're into single player experiences and trading card games. If you're a magic enthusiast you should try it out since it's only 10$, the cost of 3 packs. I recommend you get 2015 instead of 2014, then get 2014 if you liked 2015. Both are available on steam.

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The game before this I got Beastmaster Ascension out and swung in with 8 6/6s for an OTK on turn 5.

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That's all the white cards.


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I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
micronesia
Profile Blog Joined July 2006
United States24637 Posts
October 08 2014 13:48 GMT
#2
This game is a good way to learn the basics of Magic: The Gathering if you haven't played it before. If you have any interest in real MTG then this game will quickly become obsolete. You can switch over to playing real Magic using their online client (can get expensive depending on what you choose to do) or you can play real-life magic.

Obesechicken13, I am glad to see you are enjoying DotP so much, although I don't think I see the benefit of getting the 2014 version if you enjoy the 2015 version... then again don't let me stop anyone.
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 08 2014 17:05 GMT
#3
As a longtime MtG player, I got DotP...13, I think? I enjoyed it at first, but it rapidly became too easy and I became frustrated by the deckbuilding limitations.
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FromShouri
Profile Blog Joined April 2012
United States862 Posts
October 08 2014 20:56 GMT
#4
I don't play magic anymore but I still have ~100 or so cards just because they were my decks+ my favorites. My best deck is a tefari's puzzle box deck, had megrim+underworld for discard/draw damage and then tons of cards to bounce stuff back to people's hands to be swept back into the deck via tefari. Worked really well and was really fun, sadly of all the TCGs i still buy new cards for is only yugioh....

Does anyone know a free mtg game similar to the functionality of Duel Network but for magic?
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Elyvilon
Profile Joined August 2008
United States13143 Posts
October 08 2014 20:59 GMT
#5
On October 09 2014 05:56 FromShouri wrote:
I don't play magic anymore but I still have ~100 or so cards just because they were my decks+ my favorites. My best deck is a tefari's puzzle box deck, had megrim+underworld for discard/draw damage and then tons of cards to bounce stuff back to people's hands to be swept back into the deck via tefari. Worked really well and was really fun, sadly of all the TCGs i still buy new cards for is only yugioh....

Does anyone know a free mtg game similar to the functionality of Duel Network but for magic?

I don't know what Duel Network is, but look up Cockatrice if you want to play with real people for free.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
October 09 2014 04:00 GMT
#6
On October 09 2014 05:56 FromShouri wrote:
I don't play magic anymore but I still have ~100 or so cards just because they were my decks+ my favorites. My best deck is a tefari's puzzle box deck, had megrim+underworld for discard/draw damage and then tons of cards to bounce stuff back to people's hands to be swept back into the deck via tefari. Worked really well and was really fun, sadly of all the TCGs i still buy new cards for is only yugioh....

Does anyone know a free mtg game similar to the functionality of Duel Network but for magic?

Well you can definitely play duels of the planeswalkers for 10$ online. There was a dimir deck that used bounce, counters, and card draw/discard in duels 2014, but no way it's as fast as some legacy combos. I doubt it'd be possible to make a good blue/black card draw/discard deck in 2015 but maybe it's possible.
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
Fecalfeast
Profile Joined January 2010
Canada11355 Posts
October 09 2014 09:48 GMT
#7
On October 09 2014 05:56 FromShouri wrote:
I don't play magic anymore but I still have ~100 or so cards just because they were my decks+ my favorites. My best deck is a tefari's puzzle box deck, had megrim+underworld for discard/draw damage and then tons of cards to bounce stuff back to people's hands to be swept back into the deck via tefari. Worked really well and was really fun, sadly of all the TCGs i still buy new cards for is only yugioh....

Does anyone know a free mtg game similar to the functionality of Duel Network but for magic?

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Urth
Profile Blog Joined November 2007
United States1248 Posts
October 10 2014 23:13 GMT
#8
On October 08 2014 20:01 obesechicken13 wrote:
[*] Bugs? How did my 11/11 Seraph of the Masses die to Anger of the Gods?

This isn't a bug. Damage remains until the cleanup step at the end of each turn. Your Seraph of the Masses retains 3 damage on it until end of turn. I'm assuming enough other creatures died for the seraph to become a 3/3 or smaller.
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obesechicken13
Profile Blog Joined July 2008
United States10467 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-11 02:51:46
October 11 2014 02:50 GMT
#9
On October 11 2014 08:13 Urth wrote:
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On October 08 2014 20:01 obesechicken13 wrote:
[*] Bugs? How did my 11/11 Seraph of the Masses die to Anger of the Gods?

This isn't a bug. Damage remains until the cleanup step at the end of each turn. Your Seraph of the Masses retains 3 damage on it until end of turn. I'm assuming enough other creatures died for the seraph to become a 3/3 or smaller.

Oh. I didn't know it worked like that. So first it's an 11/11 with -3toughness(not really for the sake of things like indestructible). Then it's a 1/1 with -3 toughness? I did not know this. This is stuff I'd never learn or even think about just randomly playing with my friends!

The game's pretty bug free then afaik!
I think in our modern age technology has evolved to become more addictive. The things that don't give us pleasure aren't used as much. Work was never meant to be fun, but doing it makes us happier in the long run.
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