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ETisME
Profile Blog Joined April 2011
12740 Posts
October 01 2014 06:11 GMT
#21
So I came back today after the protest, here's the album:
https://www.flickr.com/photos/74772018@N08/sets/72157647825742218/

Sorry if it isn't great quality or anything, I am still new to photography and I am sure it is too heavily post processed anyway.
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Some thoughts:
I went to the most peaceful region of the occupy movement but I kept having hallucination of police siren
(due to poor sleep, my GF is from mainland and she is afraid the gov would crack down on us, I had roughly 5 hours sleep and a whole day of work before i went to support the people)

Police were completely absent, and it turned into some kind of a carnival of democracy.
Some tourists came to raised our spirit, some even provide suppliers to us.

Most of the whole place is ran by students.
They use social chat on mobile phone to arrange manpower and materials across different areas in Hong Kong.
Tram stations are turned into first aid stations, with the more experienced and licensed (?) ones standing by at all time.

There were a huge rain with lightning at night and they calmly arranged everyone to do whatever, people helped actively.
There were students walking around to ask for garbage and put cargo boxes and identifying them which is plastic bottles and other wastes etc.

Some people were dropping soap water from their flats high above but the girl who got hit reacted calmly (well, more like "arrrrr I got stuff on my hair Q_Q" reaction).

Some cafe and restaurants offered free power supplier recharge and free unlimited wifi.

This is something I wish can be done every once a year, a peaceful occupy movement for one day for people to gather up and write messages about love and peace.
The whole atmosphere is amazing.

I only have around 3 hours sleep and spent hours post processing the photos (mostly because I am just new to this) and upload to flickr. so this post is probably messy, sorry

I am very worried that if the government doesn't back down in any way possible at all, then these movements will begin to fade, people will want to see more results from all these efforts and some would determine they need to make it bigger and worse.

In the mean time, the hong kong prime minister, when asked will he resign due to this, he answered that even if he resigns, the next prime minister will be elected in the same way he did (no public vote on the election candidates)
其疾如风,其徐如林,侵掠如火,不动如山,难知如阴,动如雷震。
Baggage
Profile Joined October 2012
Hong Kong593 Posts
Last Edited: 2014-10-01 13:05:36
October 01 2014 12:53 GMT
#22
On September 30 2014 20:22 opisska wrote:
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On September 30 2014 00:47 Baggage wrote:
To say that Communism and Socialism do not support rights is simply wrong - they simply choose to prioritise economic/social rights over individual rights and freedoms.


This is both bullshit and at the same time kind of sad - provided that you really believe this. The whole concept of "economic/social rights" has been specifically designed as a propaganda tool to make it sound better. Or, if you really believe that you have the "right" to take money from others or practically enslave them or to do any other of the things non-recipients of benefits in any so socialistic society are subjected to, you mat call it that way, but it is some really twisted logic.

There are no other human rights than individual ones, that just does not make sense. If a person has a right, it means that he/she is allowed and able to take some specific set of actions. Using the term for anything else is just rhetorical abuse.


Perhaps my wording could have been more carefully chosen, with "economic and social rights over political and civil rights".
It is important to note that "Human Rights" (as people largely recognise) as a term has only really began to develop in the 20th century. Although human rights are meant to be universal, that does not mean every culture will have the same understanding with regards to its implementation and existence. Our current human rights model was largely sourced from the West with little to no input from other cultures (Islam, Asia etc.). Although I'm not personally defending a cultural relativist approach to human rights, it does mean that certain cultures would naturally be suspicious. However, I do believe that Chinese leaders to a certain extent do actually appreciate human rights, albeit with reservations and conservativeness. The evolution of rights in China is "top to bottom", rather than "bottom up" in most liberal democracies.

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Flaccid
Profile Blog Joined August 2006
8914 Posts
October 01 2014 14:44 GMT
#23
Been following the news on this rather closely. My wife is originally from Hong Kong and we visit regularly (love that city). The Hong Kong people are amazing and I wish them all the best in finding some worthwhile resolution.
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